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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

VectorSigma posted:

chimps are strong because they didn't invent guns yet

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

MegaGatts posted:

Kinda. Their ligaments attach further down their bones than ours do. If you think of ligaments as a lever you can see that the same force from a muscle contraction would cause a much more powerful reaction. Its the difference between opening a door at the hinges vs. The knob. Source: gently caress chimps, I hate them.

This is a cool article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2009/02/how_strong_is_a_chimpanzee.html

quote:

The suspicious claim seems to have originated in a flapper-era study conducted by a biologist named John Bauman. Poe's story of the scalp-pulling orangutan struck Bauman as being "grotesquely impossible." In 1923, he noted that every expert in the field believed apes were vastly stronger than humans—yet none had ever tried to prove it. So he packed up a device used to measure pull strength, called a dynamometer, and set out for the Bronx Zoo.

The apes were less-than-willing participants in the study. They were more apt to tear apart the shiny dynamometer than pull on it, and, unless the ape had a "distinctly vicious disposition," she was unlikely to approach the experimental task with much vigor. Bauman managed to rig his device outside the cage, feeding in a rope for the apes to work on. Then, amazingly, one of the Bronx chimpanzees—a former circus ape named Suzette—managed to pull 1,260 pounds.

Later studies did disprove being 5 times stronger than humans but they are much stronger than human for their size.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Butt Wizard posted:

Don't chimps rip your balls off to disable you and then go hog-wild on your face?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfFcIpQ1B_g

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Pick posted:

They're incredibly strong because their lifestyle equates to a nonstop workout. A human can also be extremely strong if it exists under those circumstances, but we generally don't.

humans also used to be stronger but changed due to sedentary lifestyle

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bea Nanner posted:

their tendons attach muscle to their bones in different places giving them more mechanical advantage than humans

They also have longer muscle fibers than humans giving them a better strength/weight ratio.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Harald posted:

yeah that's pretty true. and if you look at the hunting tactics of primitive tribes its a lot of following animals til they basically collapse from exhaustion and can be easily killed. humans are dicks.

It also a combination of technology and also physical characteristics. For example being able to carry water during the hunt and also sweating to avoid overheating.

The deer on the other hand eventually collapses from dehydration and heat exhaustion.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Harald posted:

humans are basically like that guy who figures out how to cheese a video game

oh I can't fight it? ok i'll chase it.

it's faster than me? ok I'll keep chasing it it's eventually gonna run out of water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Monkey Fracas posted:

I like to think orangutans are the goons of the ape world

Maurice was the best in Planet of the Apes.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

MegaGatts posted:

A very well trained human being might be able to beat a chimp if he's really lucky and gets a good combination and knocks out the chimp. there is no way a human can fight a gorilla. no god drat way. Even if you catch the gorilla right on the button, their head and neck is so muscular you wouldn't create the torque necessary to cause any damage. Even if you could get close enough to eye gouge it, congrats, you will be torn apart by a one eyed gorilla. Gene Tunney is a dumb fucker

Not to mention the chimp would be trying to yank your dick and balls off.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Grody posted:

this should clear this up for you retards who think a human can beat a chimp, gorilla or whatever loving monkey

This owns, basically humans only won over the stronger apes when they had improvised weapons or strength in numbers.

All the other fights went to the apes since since such as heavier weight and higher muscle strength gave them a big advantage in "fair" fights

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