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All things considered, I actually like the DS's version of the Navaroa scene a lot better. It flows better, there's less awkwardness in the dialogue, and we get a better idea for Maxim's motivations. It also occurs to me that I haven't been linking to these updates in the OP. I'll go back and fix that right now.
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Torrannor posted:Who else in this thread played Lufia 2 first and thus wasn't spoiled about the ending by Lufia 1? I was genuinely shocked and sad when I finished the game as a kid. I'm right with ya, buddy.  We didn't get Lufia 1 in Europe. Actually, this one was just called "Lufia". I was more angry than sad, though. I think I even called the Nintendo Hotline to ask if they were really dead. placid saviour fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jan 3, 2015 |
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:So Tia's weapon is a suitcase with a beartrap in it? It's even better. It's a suitcase with a beartrap and a boxing glove.
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placid saviour posted:I'm right with ya, buddy. Ahem.
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Super Jay Mann posted:I'm not sure whether the DS remake literally railroading itself with blatant plot contrivances that make no sense is brilliant or just stupid. It was a funny blatant contrivance so I'm gonna go with brilliant. Lexis owns 
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Super Jay Mann posted:I'm not sure whether the DS remake literally railroading itself with blatant plot contrivances that make no sense is brilliant or just stupid. My money's on the latter.
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: Well, progress doesn't always follow a straight line, you know. Sometimes you ahve to step back to move forward. As a result of the modifications to the Excelion, it's now too heavy to float in water.
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Kheldarn posted:Yeah, DS Lexis is the best. I will admit that he's starting to grow on me. Next update should be tomorrow morning. I'm speeding through the opening part because the game gets more interesting when you have more options available.
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I like how they talk about Gades like he's the schoolyard bully or something.SC Bracer posted:
Yeah it's a real chore when you get cornered by the dark god of the principle of destruction. One time I got stuck in an elevator with Gades and he just would not shut up about ruination and his superiority to puny humans for 12 whole floors. Awkward...
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Lufia 2 was one of those games that got me to buy Nintendo Power because they had a lot of coverage on the game. I suck at puzzles now and I suck at puzzles then.
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Blastinus posted:All things considered, I actually like the DS's version of the Navaroa scene a lot better. It flows better, there's less awkwardness in the dialogue, and we get a better idea for Maxim's motivations. Honestly, that scene doesn't make much more sense in Japanese than it did in Lufia II. It really needed a spot of creative writing, and unfortunately it didn't get any 'til it was redone in Lufia DS.
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SC Bracer posted:It's even better. It's a suitcase with a beartrap and a boxing glove.
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Blastinus posted:Ahem. B-b... but in the first Lufia...  (I tagged it. Sorry.) Edit: Welp, should've read the OP.
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Re: jewels: If it helps, the RNG decides what to drop at the end of the fight; if you change what actions you take on the last turn of battle (any turn, actually) it'll give you a different number for the drop. And I always go for the Eagle Rock in here. Never knew it was only 2%. Super Jay Mann posted:I'm not sure whether the DS remake literally railroading itself with blatant plot contrivances that make no sense is brilliant or just stupid. I've got to say, "I accidentally made our boat too heavy to sail in" is a great one. Way better than the SNES ones, like the old dude who's blocking a passage because you'd really regret missing the coronation ceremony.
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One of the many things Lufia does well is that like Lunar, it rarely takes itself very seriously. And in Lufia, the NPC's seem to realize they're in a game while the playable characters don't and they play it up so much. I love it.
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placid saviour posted:I'm right with ya, buddy. Also, why on earth would you call it "Lufia" in Europe if there was no first game?  Lufia is a character in game #1, but there's no reason to call #2 "Lufia" if you're not continuing a series. Lufia isn't in this game!edit: Blastinus posted:Ahem. Uh, dude, you made it the title of the thread. hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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PFlats posted:Also, why on earth would you call it "Lufia" in Europe if there was no first game? They renamed Dual Blade to Lufiasword.
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Blastinus posted:All things considered, I actually like the DS's version of the Navaroa scene a lot better. It flows better, there's less awkwardness in the dialogue, and we get a better idea for Maxim's motivations. The translation is much improved, yeah. I can't stay mad at Fantasy Doc Brown, but everybody kind of seems like wacky sitcom versions of themselves.
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Glazius posted:I can't stay mad at Fantasy Doc Brown, but everybody kind of seems like wacky sitcom versions of themselves. It's odd. Normally, with their improved appearances, you'd assume that they'd feel a lot more badass (Maxim with his leather jacket, Selan with her short-sleeved/jacket/thing). But no, they don't feel anywhere close to their Lufia SNES incarnations. It's as if the developers chucked all the characters in a blender, pureed them, and flanderized/twisted their personalities through some drunken haze.
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I'm playing along (ahead) for the first time. Foomy is a good name and feed him everything you have, he gets hungry I guess. I want him to stop looking like a wad of jizz Translation is bad but it feels like being 11. Crown expert seems like a pretty okay job, probably pretty slow most of the time.
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Soo, how do you guys feel about boss videos where I get owned repeatedly I'm playing on a less than responsive controller right now, and I'm not exactly a master of ARPGs, but it's hard to show off how frantic and fun some of the bossfights can be without a video, so if you guys are cool with a less skilly sort of vid, then I will make them.
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Chapter 4: Our Deadliest Foe Yet So last time, we acquired a new party member. Let's have a look.  Tia is...not one of the best characters. She's the weakest physical fighter in the game and can only wield whips, staves, and knives. She can also only wear dresses and she has a really low HP pool. On the plus side, she has a lot more intelligence than Maxim and goes a bit faster too. In addition, she can learn spells that Maxim can't, making her a good choice as a healer and a combat mage.  Even so, look at that! That's just...we need to get her a better weapon.  In order to give her a little extra "oomph," I'm equipping Tia with the Catfish Jewel. I'm a little unsure on what GUT does. Some guides suggest that it increases IP gain, but others say that it does nothing at all. I haven't tested it enough to be sure.  Heading back to Sundletan, I stop in to the magic shop and find the first water spell. Maxim can actually use that, even if he's a terrible mage, so I buy it for him too.   : I haven't decided yet. : Then you should go to Alunze Kingdom. They're having the coronation ceremony soon. I want to go, but it's much farther than the small shrine in the northwest. Too far for me. You know, something tells me that the game wants us to go to Alunze.  So I do.   I love the look of this place. Look at all the work that went into something you're going to be charging through in two seconds.   Alunze is to the northwest, but there's something that we want to check out to the south first.   A guy in Sundletan mentions that this place exists if you ask. If you didn't talk to him or make a habit out of checking every nook and cranny, you could bypass this entirely, and you really don't want to do that.   Fortunately, there's no way to screw yourself out of this. If you say no, then you can just talk to her again like nothing happened.  That sure is a name for a sacred creature.  Ah, but wait until you see the great Foomy itself. It's a...  Mound of cottage cheese?    Well, no matter. He's OUR mound of cottage cheese now.  So this is Jelze, the Foomy. He'll be the first but not least of the Capsule Monsters we encounter. Capsule Monsters are AI-controlled partner characters that participate in battle alongside the party. They are generally weak to start with, but there is a way to make them considerably stronger.  And that is by feeding them our old equipment. I'll go over the mechanics of improving and growing our Capsule Monsters in a future update, but the short version is that equipment you feed them will raise this bar here, and when it's full, the Capsule Monster will change into its next form.   As our starting Capsule Monster, Jelze is more powerful than Tia, but less powerful than Maxim. At the very least, he'll provide a little extra damage.  That is, if he's in the mood. Capsule Monster AI can be unpredictable.  Hey, check it! A town AND a castle.   Alunze town may seem uninteresting at first, but there's something special.  Not this. Although it is amazing how quickly our old gear gets obsolete.  No, the true prize is hidden in the second floor of the inn!   That's right, a casino! Well, a single slot machine, but let's not split hairs.   Gambling is performed with coins, which are nonrefundable and can only be spent on casino prizes.  Let's fire this baby up!  You can play up to five coins before you pull. The first three get you the three rows and the other two get you the diagonals. If you have a winning combo in multiple directions, you earn all the possible winnings. Most importantly, if you hold down the up button, the game lets you just keep feeding in coins. Combine that with an emulator's speed-up key and, well...  Tape those keys down, leave for half an hour, and you're either swimming in coins or ruined.  I let it sit for about a minute before I decided to move on. Besides, nothing in this casino's worth getting. We'll come across one later with significantly superior prizes.   Our first castle! Exciting! At least until you realize that pretty much every castle looks effectively the same.  You know, when I think of it, do we even have time for a coronation?  We should probably move on.  Oops! Too bad! This old man really wants us to see the coronation, and we're too polite to edge our way past.  Right, let's see this friggin' event.    : What is it!? : I just learned that this crown is an imitation!  : The way it shines...it must be real. : The guards on the crown were the best!: It's impossible for anyone to switch crowns!: Wha...what's going on? : Very well. Do it immediately!: Yes, Your Majesty!  : ......: What is it? Cat got your tongue?: Dribbles, drubbles, I see you noticed, eh?    : And I, as welly well. 'Tis bart, Berty's first apprentice! Greetings.Is that...cockney? : What!? Who are you guys!: Ah, ah! Don't move! : I assume all of you can see this boomin' bomb well now, eh? : What are you waitin' for, Bart? Lets party arty, eh!: Righto, Berty! : Oh no!: Put it out!: Bu..but!?: Ha! Ha! Ha! Watch out folks, the big one's coming!: Here it comes...3, 2, 1, BOOM!!! : ......: ......?: What's goin' on, Bart?: Huh? It should....I haven't got a clue, Berty.: What're you playin' at, Bart? Well, that was messy, but at least we can get on with the-  ...Oooookay, but hey, at least they should be easy to arrest, right?  Guys?  : Welly well done! You hurt Berty and me something terrible! But no more. Gone! Poof! ...Well, at least the crown's safe.  OH COME ON!  I'd like to pin this one on the palace guards, but we were also right there. This was just stupidity on everyone's part.  : What do you mean? Do you know them?: Oh, no. Never heard of them. I mean, the way they fooled me, I thought they had to be famous.Sound reasoning.  A little bit of investigation points us to the room to the right of the balcony.  Looks like we're headed the right way. : Are you alright? : Threw a bomb at you? : Fragments struck my head and I passed out. But, how could they survive the explosion anyway...?That's a clear sign that our foes are powered by the dark art of comic hijinx.  We must be cautious. Next time: Another dungeon item, more bizarre puzzles. Oh, and one more thing:  You may have noticed in the Capsule menu that we can rename our monsters at any time. Nobody ever references the monsters by name and they're entirely tangential to the plot so...I am open to suggestions, so long as they're five letters long. Try to keep it tasteful.
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I forgot this version of the game had quite that degree of a lack of seriousness. As for Foomy there I always named him(?) Kappa for no particular reason.
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Oh, Tia. Your Frock is so broken (for this point in the game, anyway). Its IP ability is easy enough to power up, and restores as much (or more) health than it takes. It makes Tia able to survive almost anything that won't one-shot her for a good few dungeons, and occasionally heal others on top of that. It's really the best thing she has going for her. As for Foomy, I suggest either the default name... or maybe Hachi. He/it looks like a Hachi.
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Well, it looks like a pile of marshmallow stuff, so Mallo, I guess. 
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I'm voting for Staypuft!
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Mootiman posted:I'm voting for Staypuft! That is a bit over 5 characters. I'll go with foomy.
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I'll go with Suds for our soap(?) monster...thingy.
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Berty & Bart. They did their job, and entertained me.  I was gonna suggest Foamy, but I'll second Suds for Foomy's name.
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Name him George.
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That crown-stealing scene is magical In fact those two are one of the best parts of this game however rarely they show up. Suds sounds good to me.
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While Foomy may indeed be Foomy, that lacks a certain amount of respect we're should supposedly have for what is a sacred creature. Name him Mr F.
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Glazius posted:How much can you actually feed Foomy in this early game? Well, if we've got the finances for it, the most economical item is Battle Knives back in Sundletan for 200 gold a pop. That'll only raise it a single tick at a time, but unlike the higher-end items, that won't make it suddenly start craving the more expensive stuff. For 6,400 gold, assuming you don't have any items that it's demanding, we could have a Level 2 Foomy, at which point it'll start demanding stuff that's a little out of our league. Still, an upgraded Capsule Monster at this stage of the game is killer. Like I said, I'll go for a more comprehensive look at feeding our little guy in a later update once we're out of this dungeon. It's not that complicated though.
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I wanted to name him Cheese, but sadly it can't be. I'll go with Suds instead.
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