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Aw, I was kinda hoping this would be an LP of the DS remake, but I'll settle for this. Great, great game. And no matter how many times I beat it, I still have to think my way through the puzzles. Every other RPG I've played more than once I can do the puzzles with my eyes closed. Not this one. Hell, there's one that still makes me panic because for years I thought it was time based instead of step based and it's that ingrained in my head.
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RelentlessImp posted:Fire arrows and bushes? That was my first time where I cracked down and used GameFAQs. That loving puzzle... Oh yeah. And the one right afterwards...well, right after the mini-puzzle right after. SC Bracer posted:Haha, about that... I was talking to Blast about said remake, and I'll be covering it in the thread as well. It's pretty drat different so the amount of detail I'll be going into will vary based on how much it changes, but looking at how it's going, I'm in for the long haul. Gonna wait for Blast to get a few updates in probably so that I don't spoil anything accidentally. Sweet! That'll give me the incentive to play along. I stopped recently. Thanks!
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Dec 28, 2014 14:45
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I always thought it was weird that Maxim can't use fire magic. That seems like such an odd restriction.
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Dec 30, 2014 02:06
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You can actually rescue Tia before leaving the cave, as long as the Catfish is beaten.
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Jan 1, 2015 02:19
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One of the many things Lufia does well is that like Lunar, it rarely takes itself very seriously. And in Lufia, the NPC's seem to realize they're in a game while the playable characters don't and they play it up so much. I love it.
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Jan 2, 2015 06:50
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As much as this game does right, it really doesn't do the Maxim/Tia relationship well. At all. Or hell, Tia in general. But I feel keeping that line like it was in the original would have been a solid step towards making it better. As it is in the game, all it does is make Maxim look oblivious and/or a complete rear end in a top hat and Tia look like someone about to boil a rabbit.
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Jan 12, 2015 04:55
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I need to pick up this version again. I actually like Tia this time around, and she's pretty handy as your primary attacker. Nice range and damage.
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Jan 26, 2015 02:04
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There is the Mind Ring but due to misplaced coding (?) Strong is more than sufficient for the coming fight.
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Jan 29, 2015 23:59
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Right here is when Iris started getting interesting to me. She never intrigued me before, but her saving Maxim without him knowing raised some red flags for me. Man, I could go on about that character. But I can wait.
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Feb 2, 2015 03:09
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Blastinus posted:I might give that a look. Thanks for the heads up. Just remember...Gale is your friend! Fireball not so much at the moment.
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Feb 4, 2015 07:48
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Huh, just noticed something. Iris said that Guy and Selan were destined to fight alongside Maxim right? But Maxim was supposed to die in the tower after taking down Gades, but Selan didn't fight there.
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Feb 5, 2015 02:13
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True, I didn't think of it that way. She could very well be saying what needs to be said. Although I do like the implication that Maxim wasn't supposed to knock up anyone. I wish they'd played with that more throughout the series.
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Feb 5, 2015 02:35
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PFlats posted:I kinda take the Sinistrals as a parallel to Olympians or other less-than-omnipotent gods, and this was supposed to be their debut myth. As I see it: Gingers. A race of soulless god killers. My god the world of Lufia just got infinitely more terrifying.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:34
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I remember recently playing through with a code that gives you nothing but blue chests...Oh man that was fun for a while.
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Feb 7, 2015 21:00
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Eric the Mauve posted:I can't imagine how you'd survive the whole thing without red chests though, and wouldn't that prevent you from getting Providence? If you turn the code off, the next floor goes back to normal. I just did it for fun. I wanted to see how fast I could slaughter bosses.
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Feb 8, 2015 01:05
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Eric the Mauve posted:She's definitely recognized by her companions as the Party Caster, and really hates the label, as we will hilariously find out later. One of the things I love about this game is that it always feels like there's an actual bond with the party members. You feel like they're more than companions, they genuinely care about each other too, even when they're giving each other hell. They're best friends. There really aren't many games I can think of where that feeling comes across so well.
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Feb 8, 2015 04:59
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I get the feeling she was supposed to be the "magical fighter" type, which comes off more effectively in the DS version. She's a much more formidable fighter there.
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Feb 8, 2015 06:03
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This thread made me pick up the DS version again and I'm making some good progress. Holy poo poo the Jeros rescue scene made me bust a gut. And Gades was a suitably difficult fight. Man that took some time and effort. Whew.
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Feb 9, 2015 04:05
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They do a little more with the energy waves thing in the DS version. Speaking of, is that still going on?
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Feb 25, 2015 21:14
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I really never used Guy much in this version. He's just too slow. I generally stuck with Tia and Maxim through the game. There's one boss later on that Tia absolutely slaughtered in about 30 seconds. I couldn't repeat it with anyone else.
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Mar 23, 2015 02:42
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Vil posted:
He's talking about the cross. I think all the ruined cities still have them. I like to think of it as a subtle jab at Christianity because it make me laugh.
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Apr 29, 2015 15:25
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It's a little overly formal (but then, it's Iris), but it's totally grammatically valid as far as I can tell.
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May 10, 2015 05:34
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Torrannor posted:It is a strange detour but it has nice character moments as compensation. At least now we enter the last stretch of the game. For some reason, a long time ago, I got it into my head that once you could afford everything in the new town without selling old equipment, you were ready to move forward. Then I played Legend of Legaia and said "gently caress that". For this game, it tends to be the stat potions I hoard until Artea joins, the Charred Newts that I never get around to selling. The healing potions that the game loves to throw at you and that I always forget to sell because MP isn't much of an issue in this game, the rings, all of which vary in usefulness, the rocks that I seem to be really lucky getting, and the useful IP's. It never becomes an issue until about Artea joins, maybe a little later. Unless I'm playing Retry like Blastinus is, in which case you actually never need to sell anything and thus it slips my mind. Seriously. Look at his gold amounts. You're swimming in it at all times in Retry mode.
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May 11, 2015 01:43
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I've actually got a pet theory about Iris but it involves spoilers from other games in the series, including the DS version. Mind if I post it Blastinus?
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May 11, 2015 22:16
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Blastinus posted:Spoiler tags only, but sure. Actually I think I'll wait until you get towards the end. Even though I'm sure everyone knows what the game is building towards, I don't wanna ruin that part. But it's tucked away safely in a file for that day.
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May 12, 2015 02:52
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I never actually do it, because I'm petrified that if I do the Dragon Egg quest some of the eggs will go in the Difficult Trick chests and like hell am I doing it twice
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May 20, 2015 01:48
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Tallgeese posted:You mention how Gratze should have been a threatening entity... You're mistaken. There's no GBA game. Nope. Just the 3 games. Three. No more, no less. Well, 3 and the DS remake, which I'm gonna assume isn't being LP'd anymore.
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May 26, 2015 22:14
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Yapping Eevee posted:This is right up there with "This is totally the final dungeon, guys!" in terms of lame comments I wish people would stop making. It sounds interesting. It most certainly does. It had tons of potential. So many great ideas. But...well...I'll let you decide for yourself if you ever play it. Or if someone decides to LP it. And if you do, keep in mind it basically stands alone. There's no mention of Sinistrals or even Maxim and company...and the main character is from PARCELYTE! And it takes place only a few years after this game. Seriously, other than Parcelyte, Gratze, and one character, it has no connection to the rest of the series. And that's the least of it's issues.
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May 27, 2015 01:11
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Yapping Eevee posted:Ah, so what you mean is that it's more or less a Lufia game in name only. Now that sounds more fair. Make sure you use a cartridge. Or have a code handy to give you items. The rom has a bug that freezes the game when you try to buy stuff and as far as I know, there's no fix.
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May 27, 2015 01:29
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Could be. I haven't played it in years. I just remember I had to put in a code to get all the items and equipped them as I found them in shops. Then I started getting annoyed at the game and just threw on everyone's ultimate equipment and blew through the rest.
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I remember back in the day when I was on GameFAQs, there was something I read that said the developers accidentally switched up the Gades battles in the final game. The first one you fight was actually supposed to be the final one, which explains why this one is rather...bad.
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Well, since that was the last update and I'm going to bed, here's the Erim/Iris theory I mentioned earlier. Massive spoilers for the whole triolgy (since the 4th one doesn't even mention Sinistrals or anything)! Heads up! Basically...there are 9 super-beings. 3 good, 3 neutral, and 3 evil. The evil ones are Daos, Amon, and Gades. The neutral ones are Arek, Dual Blade, and Erim The good ones are a little different. They get reincarnated as Maxim (thus the constant red hair), and 2 other companions. But these aren't important for this. Arek is more or less a watcher. He just kinda chills on this throne and sees what's going on. Dual Blade is more active. Very powerful, at least somewhat sentient, and highly desirable. Erim is an agent. Her being the Sinistral of Death is highly symbolic. Death is neutral. Completely and always. Nothing can escape it. So she flits around all 3 groups depending on what is needed at the time. All through the trilogy (TRILOGY! There are only 3 games and a remake!), she goes back and forth. At the beginning of the series' timeline (just before Maxim's quest), she is neutral. Everything is balanced. The world is relatively peaceful. 3/3/3. Arek sends her on a mission, decide which side the scales should tip towards. No idea why he does that. Shits and giggles? Erim (as Iris) meets Maxim and realizes instantly who he is, and sends him on a mission to fight Daos and company. See who wins. And in keeping with the idea of balance, her very nature causes her to start swinging every which way. She starts doing good. She sees the best of humanity in Maxim and company and slowly starts to sympathize. She starts showing humanity. This is way more obvious in the DS version where she bonds with everybody. There's some kind of relationship forming, besides the one she has with Arek (and that one is just about duty). Thus, this is all new turf for her. We learn later that Erim revives Gades and Amon from death. Yet, she saves Maxim several times from death too (as Iris). It's a little different since Maxim's super-being since he's in a mortal shell, but SHE STILL DOES IT, even when fate says she wasn't supposed to. This firmly puts her in the "good" column. But...in keeping with her nature, she has to switch to team Baddie and give them a helping hand. It's only fair. She turns back into Erim and fights Maxim and company. She loses. Daos loses. And she saves either Parcelyte, or Maxim, Selan, and Parcelyte (depending on which DS ending is considered canon). Another good act. At this point she's torn. She's being pulled in 3 different directions. So she reincarnates herself as someone with a completely blank slate, see how that works out. That is Lufia. As Lufia, she falls in love with the next redheaded hero. But...complications arise again. Dual Blade activates her memories, but only the ones of when she was evil. The conflict of her new "good" life (and I use that term loosely because she treats Jerin like poo poo, but is on the whole a good person) and her evil memories make her desperate to get out of the cycle she's stuck in. And so she comes up with one final plan. Find a team that is capable of destroying her. Completely and utterly destroying her. The internal conflict has gone on for centuries, and she can't take it. So she disguises herself as Seena (not reincarnated, she knows who she is the entire time). She recruits Wain and company and secretly nudges them the right way so they can kill her once and for all. Sometimes I like to sit down and analyze stories. Feel free to point out any holes or how completely terrible this theory is.
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