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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Is this in like the Terms of Service for all the airlines? I don't read them so

e: and Lol like they hold the plane at all if a person doesn't board at the right time

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Volume posted:

But what about your luggage?

Don't check, save another 25.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Applewhite posted:

I mean, you can sue for whatever you want I guess, but they deserve to lose and also go out of business.

I too agree that less airline companies in the market would improve prices.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Applewhite posted:

Ha ha. On the surface it would seem like having some airlines go out of business would only make the survivors more of a monopoly, but actually all the manpower, equipment and experience of the defunct corporations would split off into new companies that would be in competition with one another and not party to the price fixing circlejerk that is the modern airline industry, thus lowering prices (when a company goes out of business its resources don't just evaporate). After a decade or so of fighting with one another (to the consumers' benefit) they will eventually crystallize into monopolies again and then people will stop flying and they go out of business and fracture into small, competing businesses once more. It's a circle of life that is perverted by gov't subsidies.

What was the latest large US airline that went bankrupt and this has occured? I see mergers left and right, and TWA is really the only bankruptcy that I know - and all their assets were acquired by AA.

e: Delta got all of Pan Ams crap I see.

Burt Sexual fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 30, 2014

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Smoking_Dragon posted:

In this case your intended destination is Minneapolis. You can purchase a one-way flight to Minneapolis for $613.

However, you can instead purchase a one-way flight to New York for $167 and then get off during the layover in Minneapolis.

Either way you end up in Minneapolis at the same time and day but if you tell Delta you want to go to New York and get off midway through your trip you save a lot.

I get that a 1-stop is cheaper than an 0-stop, but what is this guys website value add? I mean I can search flights on Delta.com with 1-stop layover in Minneapolis pretty easily.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Applewhite posted:

Remove the gov't subsidies and let's see if it's the same story. If they all go out of business simultaneously there ain't gonna be no mergers.

Wouldn't removing subsidies cause more bankruptcy? And all airlines going out of business at the same time is somewhat unlikely...

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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babies havin rabies posted:

It's not like they can ever enforce this. I mean the police can't come arrest somebody for booking a flight and then not taking it.

Right?

They can pull you FF miles, ban you from flying their airline, and probably other inconviences, but not police. As I mentioned earlier, its probably buried in their TOS somewhere.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Applewhite posted:

"Get on your flight, sir!"

"What?"

"Calm down, sir!"

"I am calm??"

"Suspect has become hostile!"

bam! lol

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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420DD Butts posted:

An easy way to get around this would just to buy two different one-way tickets from two different airlines. You skip the difficulties of a round trip ticket possibly being voided and the possibility that the airline notices you booked two different tickets with a different starting/end point for each.

All you need to do now is pay in cash and you'll glide by TSA. lol

I know people do this, but it would seem airlines would catch drift (probably through TSA) and generally make your life hell if you travelled alot as I do.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Smoking_Dragon posted:

The only way TSA is going to give you hell is if you look middle eastern or if you are on a no-fly list. While I'm not 100% positive I doubt that airlines have any call who is on the no-fly list.

I'm fairly certain TSA (among other agencies) do big data type data analytics on ticket purchases. Frequency, locations, cash, one-ways with odd/disconnected locations, etc. :911:

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Moridin920 posted:

isn't it kind of just the airline's fault for having a ticket price system in which it's cheaper to buy a ticket from A to B to C than just a 'direct flight' from A to B?

I mean for real 'hidden city' tickets shouldn't even be a thing.

Hub and spoke. But I've never understood that beyond the marketing/price gouging that they use. I guess it's use of scarce resource (planes and humans) in the most efficient people moving way, and gently caress the time it takes for passengers. Never mind I figured it out.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Moridin920 posted:

isn't it kind of just the airline's fault for having a ticket price system in which it's cheaper to buy a ticket from A to B to C than just a 'direct flight' from A to B?

I mean for real 'hidden city' tickets shouldn't even be a thing.


it's the same loving plane AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH what the actual gently caress

What the market will bear. BTc really can solve this.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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TwoStepBoog posted:

it doesn't have to make sense if they're your only choice

It's public transit nowadays. Serious.

Govt taking over Ina nationalization fetish won't solve it either. Contrary to the socialists ITT

Look at amtrack :worms:

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

the second my state stopped subsidizing southwest they ditched all the direct flights and raised ticket prices 100%

the free market future of airlines would involve half the country taking a train to Dallas to catch their $2000 domestic flight that only goes to LAX and ATL

A largely subsidized train that operates in the red year after year, with unreliable schedules.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Shadow posted:

haha

Well you see, flight prices are determined by ~*magic*~

aka rand() function


Well, any subsidized or nationalized industry should have serious caps on executive salaries. If you're only functioning because Uncle Sam using taxpayer dollars are keeping you from imploding, you the CEO cannot earn more than the President of the United States. Never mind 10-20 times more.

And like you I was surprised to see "record profits" when I looked it up. For a time wasn't it only the value jets that were turning profits? (JetBlue, SouthWest, etc.)

Lol running an international corporation for 400k. Good talent recruiting pool there.

And airlines are making money now because we have low oil prices that we had our boys die for.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Fetus Tree posted:

The value jets actually make an attempt in some ways it seems. Flying one singlr type of plane, etc.

I love the term sky greyhound. Have you ever boarded a southwest flight? Moo, baaa, moo

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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old dog child posted:

Oh yeah this reminds me of some more airline bullshit. So I'm taking a trip in January from LA to SF. Apparently if you bring a small pet, you cannot attend to it, it must be quiet and docile, and effectively act as a baggage. Actually, even less than that- you can't even check on it during the flight. The airline even explicitly states that if a pet gets sick mid-flight, they won't treat it. Yet somehow, even though the pet+crate counts as one of two free checked bags, there is a 95 dollar fee. My round trip doesn't cost that much. What the gently caress?

Don't bring your loving yappy lap chiuahua on my flight. I'm allergic. gently caress I hat this, and cats. Can I bring my snake on board?

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Demonachizer posted:

I bring my snake everywhere I go. :wink:

Hint for non back readers, quote then stop. You'll see his post normal

But yes, bring lots of big snakes, they eat yappy "comfort" dogs or whatever the mentals call them.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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old dog child posted:

only if people aren't allowed to bring babies, which are more annoying than a dog would be (since there is no noise or behavior restriction on children)

e: you literally have to treat the pet crate like a box that you cannot open or close so there's less freedom than a typical carry-on item too

Ride the greyhound with ur dogge you shithead

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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GORILLA BASTARD posted:

gently caress Obamacare too.

Lol this guy gets it.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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The Nards Pan posted:

Jesus - what loving flight were you on from NYC that had a layover in Seattle? I can't imagine this one weird trick works for international flights and no other flights make any drat sense. NYC-SEA-LAX? Doubtful. . .

I regularly fly from my Midwest airport to DCA, via Denver or Dallas. Saving fuel with the spoke n hub!

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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uG posted:

fwiw years ago I got off at my connecting city and when it was time for my return flight they tried to tell me i forfeited it by not taking the last leg of the trip (or first leg on the way back). I don't know why they didn't think I would make a scene until they gave me my loving seat back but it took a good 35 minutes of weed deprived bitching to finally get them to do the right thing

Why'd you get off?

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

lol a south american airline canceled my international flight from DC without telling the airport and when it didn't show up after hours of everyone waiting a rep finally showed up at the counter and said "we have the flight showing up as arriving at its final destination on time without any passengers on it, not our fault if you didn't get on. the next flight is tomorrow, we won't give you vouchers, and it'll be $1300 for a ticket"

people got mad and the rep called the cops

it took 2 months to get a refund for the flight through a credit card chargeback w/ investigation

Don't fly banana republic airlines.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:

it helps to be super attractive too, male or female

people like to help pretty people

thats odd, i find they resent my stunning good looks.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Shadow posted:

How do you hold up a mirror to someone on the internet?

Dude, first class doesn't mean they want to help you. ANOTHER EXAMPLE.


I had a particularly bad day my last day on-site. A bad experience with a dick head client. A bad lunch. And some other poo poo I forget. I had gotten this trip home upgraded so I was going to get good and sauced for the next 2 hour flight and get home and pass out.

This is something I've done a zillion times when boarding with a First Class seat. The flight attendant at the entrance, "Hi! I'm in 3A, can you please get me a Woodford Reserve?" ALWAYS works. I got me a drink before 90% of the plane has even boarded. Before First Class is even finished.

Well, on this particular day, I did the same thing and got told that she'd get to me when everyone's boarded. She then forgot everything I asked for the rest of the flight and I'd have to repeat it. She purposely made me wait.


Being in First Class doesn't make you god. And how you just wrote your reply makes it seem like you're either self-entitled to the extreme or you are just one of those people who were taught polite things to say but never actually mean. People who deal with lots of people every day can see right through that horse poo poo.

On my bad day, even though I said what I always said, I easily came across as impatient or self-entitled and she made me pay for it with delays and constantly reminding her what I asked for.

uh dude i think that was :thejoke:

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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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buttcrackmenace posted:

STT - JAX is cheaper than STT - ATL on Delta.

Like half the cost.

STT - JAX is actually routed through ATL, ,so he actual flight pattern is STT - ATL - JAX.

Why.

Feeder markets feed the beast. Simple as that.

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