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Dr. Abysmal posted:Here's what the lady who was beaten to death last night was doing before going to the UFC. Legit prospect.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Here's what the lady who was beaten to death last night was doing before going to the UFC. Hahhahaha
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Dr. Pancakes posted:Demetrious Johnson is the real goat since there is no chance he is going to lose a fight as champion and he fights regularly. He's the only one in that weight class that's a fun watch and he completely owns people. Too bad the rest of the entire weight class is such loving garbage
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Cuckoo posted:He's the only one in that weight class that's a fun watch and he completely owns people. Too bad the rest of the entire weight class is such loving garbage Dodson is really cool. Otherwise, yea.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:39
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Bundt Cake posted:Why dont you make a specific point professor Coleman and BJ lost a lot and Anderson didn't?
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K8.0 posted:Do you really want to think about what would happen if Nog in his prime tried to fight today's Velasquez or Werdum? Can you imagine what Hendricks or Lawler would do to Matt Hughes face? Nog beat Werdum and Hughes was champ while Lawler was coming up. They would've beaten them then, and the younger guys would beat them now.
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Ty1990 posted:Coleman and BJ lost a lot and Anderson didn't? Ok so its just about losses. That conversation doesn't interest me. I dont give a poo poo who lost the least times. Dan Henderson has an ugly record that should probably be uglier. Myles Jury was undefeated until last night
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Jan 4, 2015 21:40
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If Mark Coleman and Jon Jones met in the GP, Mark would wax that fucker from the face of the earth. Coleman would also be on more drugs than Bane.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:41
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NippleFloss posted:Dodson is really cool. Otherwise, yea. Pretty sure they could pit Rousey against a lot of the flyweight men and she'd rip their arms off
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Jan 4, 2015 21:42
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Detroit_Dogg posted:If Mark Coleman and Jon Jones met in the GP, Mark would wax that fucker from the face of the earth. you're right. Jones would never take Coleman down and in fact would lose $10,000 
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Jan 4, 2015 21:43
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In this theoretical world does Jon Jones take hella steroids or are those not allowed under his denomination
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Jan 4, 2015 21:44
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By the way, I do agree that a P4P GOAT discussion is a bit tired at this point, but I was just responding to somebody scoffing a few pages back at Jones being looked at as one of the best fighters ever at this point. MMA fans as a whole crown a fighter way too quickly as one of the best ever, but I was just saying that it may be time to in fact look at Jones in that light.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:44
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Saying BJ lost a lot like that tells the story of why he's great or not is missing the point so badly did you notice the guys he lost to were the two longest reigning champs in welterweight history, machida who was a LHW champ and he was the only guy who ever kinda won a round against him until he fought Shogun, and he was a natural LW who could get as small as FW?? Its almost like theres more to it than a Win or Loss
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Jan 4, 2015 21:45
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Imagine if BJ or Bustamante had tried to protect their legacy instead of just trying to test themselves in a sport without a lot of money in it. They both decided to challenge themselves instead of get a wikipedia page that would impress educated mma fans ten years later
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Jan 4, 2015 21:47
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There are an infinite amount of universes in the world and not a single one of them has BJ Penn retiring with any shred of dignity
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Jan 4, 2015 21:48
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Agreed. BJ is a all time great for being rich and flighty.
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Bundt Cake posted:Nog beat Werdum and Hughes was champ while Lawler was coming up. They would've beaten them then, and the younger guys would beat them now. lol yeah like the worst example for that argument "Could you imagine how bad Werdum would beat Nog???" lmao
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If your mom ever sued mixed martial arts for making her son lose you aren't the best.
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I know there's a lot of talk about a Cain fight now, but to me it seems the more plausible and interesting fight is Weidman vs Jones, assuming they both keep winning
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In theory it would be really interesting but I think jones would be too big for him at 205 and whatever he says he's not making 185.
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I don't see putting on 20lbs suddenly being a problem for a student of Matt Serra
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Jan 4, 2015 21:52
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What is Cain's injury? When is he gonna kill werdum?
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Skip My Posts posted:What is Cain's injury? When is he gonna kill werdum? Originally his shoulder then I think he hurt his knee training for werdum
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Triticum Guzzler posted:I know there's a lot of talk about a Cain fight now, but to me it seems the more plausible and interesting fight is Weidman vs Jones, assuming they both keep winning the cool thing is Weidman wants to fight Jones (supposedly wants it to be crowned the King of NY fight), Jones wants to fight Cain, Cain doesn't want to fight anybody. Skip My Posts posted:What is Cain's injury? When is he gonna kill werdum? UFC put pressure on Cain to make his return by March but seeing how Anthony Pettis miraculously came out of his fight uninjured and is willing to fight on that spring PPV, I think the pressure is off on Cain for now. They still probably want Cain back for either the April or Memorial Day weekend cards so sorta soon.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:56
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Get serious guys, Farmer Burns was the true MMA GOAT
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what about that pipe that kevin ranlemann hit his head on
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Bundt Cake posted:Nog beat Werdum and Hughes was champ while Lawler was coming up. They would've beaten them then, and the younger guys would beat them now. So you're just going to continue to refuse to concretely state how you're judging them so you can waffle around as you need to make your ridiculous argument. Got it.
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maffew buildings posted:what about that pipe that kevin ranlemann hit his head on The Sauna has beat more fighters
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K8.0 posted:So you're just going to continue to refuse to concretely state how you're judging them so you can waffle around as you need to make your ridiculous argument. Got it. you can't concretely state the criteria for an intangible subject
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K8.0 posted:So you're just going to continue to refuse to concretely state how you're judging them so you can waffle around as you need to make your ridiculous argument. Got it. Nobody in this argument so far has stated any concrete criteria for GOAT, so how about you actually state some yourself before you harp on bundt about it
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I am going to concretely state that Farmer Burns was the GOAT because he toured the nation's county fairs choking out drunks for pocket change and he trained to have a 20" neck at 165 lbs. Those are my criteria and I defy anybody to improve on them.
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Which fighter has the most heart? its dan hardy
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Which fighter has the most heart? steve struve
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I always thought Remco Pardoel was a cool guy. Gigantic dutchman who would obliterate people with Judo, then talk about how he actually sucked. He was a pioneer of modern day MMA-chat.
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Which fighter has the most heart? Frankie, mark hunt
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I found that grandslam card way more entertaining than 182. I might need a break from the ufc.
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Nick Thompson is the GOAT
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LobsterMobster posted:The Sauna has beat more fighters Lead pipe was way before sauna's time though therefore through transitive wrestling mats is better
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How can we even talk about Greatest Of All Time we don't even know how good people will get in the future. We should talk about the Greatest Until Now.
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I like Robbie Lawler a lot so I'm going to say he's the greatest of all time
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