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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
An attributable catch-all for random chance? A belief that there are forces beyond your own control? Sounds like a God to me.

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burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp
No atheist god is Black Science Man.

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

HJB posted:

An attributable catch-all for random chance? A belief that there are forces beyond your own control? Sounds like a God to me.

But random chance is the exact opposite of everything being preordained by God

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
"in my experience there's no such thing as luck"

--han solo

how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014

HJB posted:

A belief that there are forces beyond your own control? Sounds like a God to me.

Can you control wind? Does wind sound like a God to you?

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

mookface posted:

But random chance is the exact opposite of everything being preordained by God

Okay, scratch random.

how me a frog posted:

Can you control wind? Does wind sound like a God to you?

Wind is created under a series of very specific and observable circumstances.

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I don't believe in "wind"

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I experience it most Sunday mornings.

Rodnik
Dec 20, 2003
CHANCE AND PROBABILITY IS JUST AN AUTISM GOD!

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

how me a frog posted:

Can you control wind? Does wind sound like a God to you?

wind comes out of my butt at regular intervals. does god live in my butt?

Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.


Behold the Lord thy God

how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014

HJB posted:

Wind is created under a series of very specific and observable circumstances.

Luck is the result of very specific observable circumstances. Also has nothing to do with what you wrote. You wrote "forces I cannot personally control = GOD".

Heck according to your idiotic definition, I am god.

Rapman the Cook
Aug 24, 2013

by Ralp
Dick Dawkins

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

how me a frog posted:

Luck is the result of very specific observable circumstances.

It's not luck if you can define a reason for it happening.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
god must exist otherwise all those concussed sportsball players would look like idiots praying to him for help catching the sportsball while africa still needs to be saved/destroyed

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
christopher hitchens was the best atheist because he never tried to pretend that he wasn't an rear end in a top hat

too bad god struck him down for his insolence

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

HJB posted:

It's not luck if you can define a reason for it happening.

Though it can be called luck when it is a humungous pile of data points that can only be accounted after the fact.

how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014

HJB posted:

It's not luck if you can define a reason for it happening.

Yes it is. I think the problem here is you don't know what words mean.

Example: Calling 5 coin flips in a row is lucky, the reason is also easily defined unless physics is also a gods.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

how me a frog posted:

Yes it is. I think the problem here is you don't know what words mean.

Example: Calling 5 coin flips in a row is lucky, the reason is also easily defined unless physics is also a gods.

but money IS our god

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Cnut the Great posted:

christopher hitchens was the best atheist because he never tried to pretend that he wasn't an rear end in a top hat

too bad god struck him down for his insolence

The lord smote him for lying with another man

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Brains recognize patterns, since it's what they're for. They gave us an edge in the wilderness, where everything happens for a simple reason. Thus they are unprepared for the hellish tangled web of complex causality that lies at the heart of modern life. People who are really successful have developed new intuitions from drawing informed empirical judgements, enhancing their gut reaction with logical certainty. People who are really unsuccessful don't attempt to update caveman brain and believe that if they lost a fair coin flip fifty times the chance of them losing the next one can't possibly be a half.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

how me a frog posted:

Yes it is. I think the problem here is you don't know what words mean.

Example: Calling 5 coin flips in a row is lucky, the reason is also easily defined unless physics is also a gods.

I thank The Lord every time it comes up heads.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

HJB posted:

An attributable catch-all for random chance? A belief that there are forces beyond your own control? Sounds like a God to me.

you don't worship luck though. a dog is similarly 'predictable' and beyond your control when it pisses on the floor instead of actually indicating it needs to go outside but it's not god to you for that alone

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

chaosbreather posted:

Brains recognize patterns, since it's what they're for. They gave us an edge in the wilderness, where everything happens for a simple reason. Thus they are unprepared for the hellish tangled web of complex causality that lies at the heart of modern life. People who are really successful have developed new intuitions from drawing informed empirical judgements, enhancing their gut reaction with logical certainty. People who are really unsuccessful don't attempt to update caveman brain and believe that if they lost a fair coin flip fifty times the chance of them losing the next one can't possibly be a half.

i sense your pants are corduroy

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

you don't worship luck though.

Ever been to a casino?

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

a dog is similarly 'predictable' and beyond your control when it pisses on the floor instead of actually indicating it needs to go outside but it's not god to you for that alone

I accept that a dog cannot tell me when it needs a piss, but I can train it to piss somewhere more appropriate.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i literally created myself. i am the source of my own existence, no loving joke, it's true.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
let's be real though: there's clearly some greater force in the universe with all the qualities traditionally attributed to "God" and if you deny this blindingly obvious fact you probably have an extremely low IQ and live a dull and unfulfilling life

also you probably repost "Science is AWESOME" links on FB and secretly think of neil degrasse tyson as "one of the good ones"

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

HJB posted:

Ever been to a casino?

do you go to a church of luck every sunday and sing luck hymnals and listen to luck sermons by your luck pastor? have you ever in your life? have you even just constructed your own personal shrine to luck where you bear offerings to luck in service to it? you better have if you want to convince me you're actually worshiping it the way you would a god.

HJB posted:

I accept that a dog cannot tell me when it needs a piss, but I can train it to piss somewhere more appropriate.

you can't train all the rocks in the world to be somewhere more appropriate and they are referred to in the exact same way when you trip over them

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

how me a frog posted:

Luck is the result of very specific observable circumstances. Also has nothing to do with what you wrote. You wrote "forces I cannot personally control = GOD".

Heck according to your idiotic definition, I am god.

Op you just owned. Luck is for hooker and fat people.

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Cnut the Great posted:

let's be real though: there's clearly some greater force in the universe with all the qualities traditionally attributed to "God" and if you deny this blindingly obvious fact you probably have an extremely low IQ and live a dull and unfulfilling life

The problem with believing in a higher power is due to the nature of life on Earth, any higher power must be hostile by default

Rogue AI Goddess
May 10, 2012

I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

chaosbreather posted:

People who are really unsuccessful don't attempt to update caveman brain and believe that if they lost a fair coin flip fifty times the chance of them losing the next one can't possibly be a half.
Of course it's not a half, it's 1. The coin is weighted, the game is rigged and the ball was in my palm all along. Poor suckers stood no chance.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Cnut the Great posted:

let's be real though: there's clearly some greater force in the universe with all the qualities traditionally attributed to "God" and if you deny this blindingly obvious fact you probably have an extremely low IQ and live a dull and unfulfilling life

also you probably repost "Science is AWESOME" links on FB and secretly think of neil degrasse tyson as "one of the good ones"

Let's be clear though: Our brain wants to find a purpose because the possibility that we're just apes with imagination is too much to deal with, existentially speaking.

open container
Sep 16, 2008

Orkin Mang posted:

i literally created myself. i am the source of my own existence, no loving joke, it's true.

Fetus Tree
Feb 2, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
I do not believe that there is a higher power controlling anything in this universe. However that being said I spend very little time thinking about it.
It is just something that I have accepted and don't really worry about it until I see threads on it here.

Rapman the Cook
Aug 24, 2013

by Ralp
The fedora is large in this thread

Fetus Tree
Feb 2, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
im not a fedora

lonesomedwarf
Mar 22, 2010

i pout out positive energy into the universe every day. i try and gfive so i can get back. the universe has been anthropomorphised and it will listen to you and knows your intentions, this is something a lot of people dont know about you might even say its cryptic or enigmatical

lonesomedwarf
Mar 22, 2010

usually i jerk my dick unti l i orgasm and then i shout out "THE UNIVERS"E

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
let there be uuuunngh

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