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A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Top Hats Monthly posted:

Ohio State Buckeyes 31 Minnesota Golden Gophers 24.

We are objectively better than Oregon.



The gophers are somewhere between Oregon and Alabama.

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A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Thoguh posted:

No, because Ohio State got in over TCU. Based on resumes prior to the start of the playoff there was no excuse to include Ohio State over TCU, the committee only included them because they were a bigger name school. The fact that Ohio State won doesn't change that. TCU still got screwed.

Baylor would have gotten in over TCU. It makes a better storyline if after the fact you pick the co-champ who blows their bowl opponent out of the water, but Baylor was ranked higher and had the head to head win over TCU.

Baylor also happened to go on to lose against Michigan State.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Ohio State beat PAC-12 champ Oregon and SEC champ Alabama. TCU beat a 9-3 Ole Miss team and...Minnesota?

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


every posted:

That's silly to say because if tcu had gotten in, they would've had the opportunity to play Oregon and Alabama

What's silly is that any previous year where a team beat #1 and #2 to end the season they'd be the least controversial national champion ever, but because a "lovely big 10 team" did it now people are crying that it doesn't count because they didn't also beat #6.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


If OSU doesn't get in Baylor gets the nod. TCU had no top wins and lost the tiebreaker to Baylor, which is why all the polls had TCU ranked lower than Baylor. The only reason people are clinging to TCU right now is because they won a bowl and Baylor didn't, but that obviously hadn't happened yet when the teams were picked.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Also "But the #6 team beat a 9-3 team from the overrated SEC" is a really silly argument.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Detroit_Dogg posted:

or pay players

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

There's hundreds of thousands of students working on campuses at this very moment, all of which are being paid for the work they do, and all of which are bringing in much less value to their schools than football players at major programs are. If your work is making money for others you should be paid.

You don't even have to pay a whole lot, pretty much every 18-21 year old would be happy with a full ride, a meal plan, a room, and like $25k extra.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


JT Jag posted:

This is one of the biggest problems facing the NCAA. A lot of the Big Five schools want to pay players. They've proposed as much at NCAA meetings. They always get shot down by the smaller schools that can't afford it and outnumber them. The longer this goes on, the more the NCAA risks the Big Five just leaving one day to make their own governing institution, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the governing institution.

Skim the money from TV contracts. Each school in NCAA FBS football gets $x - you can spend up to this same amount on raw player salaries, and anything you don't spend can go into your general fund.

Couple this with a more aggressive policy on washing lovely teams out of FBS football and bumping good programs up.

If you really wanna get detail oriented you can mandate a minimum salary equivalent to minimum wage for the expected hours of game time and official team practices for every active roster player.

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A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

FCS powers probably aren't all that interested in moving up. They're all in the far north where they are the recruiting powerhouses and are the biggest show in town. There are some real good reasons to stay at the FCS level even if you're a serious power. Teams aren't moving up unless they really want to, and the top of the FCS hasn't really shown it's wanted to (leaving aside the few programs that moved up recently, but they're in very different situations from the Montanas, the NDSUs, the Villanovas, and the New Hampshires of the world).

Which might change if they got to keep whatever part of their TV contract money they didn't spend on players. I'm not suggesting everyone will want to bump up, but getting the same chunk of money as Alabama or OSU would probably entice some schools.

You could also just bump half the lovely FBS conferences into FCS and make schools thunderdome their way back in.

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