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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12179571/joe-paterno-111-wins-were-vacated-restoredquote:The NCAA on Friday announced a proposed agreement that would restore 112 wins by Penn State's football team that were wiped out during the Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal and would put the late Joe Paterno back as the winningest coach in major college football history.
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Joe Paterno allowed the rape of children to happen for years, discuss.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:48
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drat it
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Jan 16, 2015 19:50
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If it makes you feel better, focus on Bowden losing the wins record rather than JoePa regaining it.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:50
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But they can't restore his life.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:51
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Burn down Penn State.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:51
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It's ok, Urban Meyer will take the lead from Paterno, finishing off his 20th straight 13+ win season, and then, having saved us all from everything except Ohio State football, pass on.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:52
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Thoguh posted:Burn down Penn State. And also the NCAA
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Jan 16, 2015 19:52
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If this is the case then sadly it looks that Jim Tressel should be given back his wins too
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Jan 16, 2015 19:54
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They should restore all the wins to everyone because it's a dumbass pointless punishment. A sport is nothing but the sum of its history, quit loving around with it.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:56
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Rhythmic slapping sounds echo through the halls of Penn State
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Jan 16, 2015 19:57
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Joe Paterno allowed the rape of children to happen for years, discuss. On the one hand, Joe Paterno played an integral part of an alleged conspiracy to conceal a convicted serial child rapist and continued to employ said rapist for years in a position that ensured the credibility needed to continue interacting with vulnerable children in an unsupervised capacity. On the other hand,
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Jan 16, 2015 19:58
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They received a rhythmic slap on the wrist.
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Jan 16, 2015 19:59
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Thoguh posted:Burn down Penn State.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:00
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Oh boy time for another state college riot 
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Jan 16, 2015 20:00
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So how much money do you suppose Penn State gave to the NCAA to get this decision?
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Jan 16, 2015 20:01
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Flaggy posted:So how much money do you suppose Penn State gave to the NCAA to get this decision? That's not how it works
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Jan 16, 2015 20:03
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Flaggy posted:So how much money do you suppose Penn State gave to the NCAA to get this decision? Nothing. It's part of a settlement of a lawsuit between the state and the NCAA in which the NCAA was about to get shithoused on, but please do continue with your non-sense.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:04
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Frackie Robinson posted:They should restore all the wins to everyone because it's a dumbass pointless punishment. A sport is nothing but the sum of its history, quit loving around with it. This is an argument for not vacating wins in the first place. In the context of having already vacated those wins, all giving them back does is say "ehhhhh that whole Child Molestation affair wasn't that bad guys." gently caress that bullshit.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:05
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Spiritus Nox posted:This is an argument for not vacating wins in the first place. In the context of having already vacated those wins, giving them back says "ehhhhh that whole Child Molestation affair wasn't that bad guys." gently caress that bullshit. That isn't what they're saying.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:05
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The Paterno family has released a statement:quote:Today is a great victory for everyone who has fought for the truth in the Sandusky tragedy. The repeal of the consent decree and the return of the wins to the University and Joe Paterno confirm that the NCAA and the Board of Trustees acted prematurely and irresponsibly in the unprecedented sanctions the NCAA imposed on the University, the players, coaches and the community.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:07
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And in the end, nothing was learned.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:08
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That isn't what they're saying. Then what are they saying?
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Jan 16, 2015 20:08
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Spiritus Nox posted:This is an argument for not vacating wins in the first place. In the context of having already vacated those wins, all giving them back does is say "ehhhhh that whole Child Molestation affair wasn't that bad guys." gently caress that bullshit. It's more says "ehhhh, we had no authority to take that action in this circumstance according to our own rules" which is 100% correct. And now the NCAA is reaping the consequences of their caprice. Again.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:09
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Tough life.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:09
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I have to be honest, I am relishing more in the hypocrisy of this forum regarding the NCAA than I am in the restoration of the wins. Ultimately, what the settlement means is that the NCAA and the Penn State Board of Trustees can sweep their poo poo under the carpet. The emails that have been released by the NCAA as a result of the suit have been pretty alarming.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:12
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Spiritus Nox posted:Then what are they saying? this: Frackie Robinson posted:It's more says "ehhhh, we had no authority to take that action in this circumstance according to our own rules" which is 100% correct. And now the NCAA is reaping the consequences of their caprice. Again.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:12
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Maybe the Penn State administration will do the right thing and not acknowledge the wiahahahahahhahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahaha
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Jan 16, 2015 20:14
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Komet posted:I have to be honest, I am relishing more in the hypocrisy of this forum regarding the NCAA than I am in the restoration of the wins. Ultimately, what the settlement means is that the NCAA and the Penn State Board of Trustees can sweep their poo poo under the carpet. The emails that have been released by the NCAA as a result of the suit have been pretty alarming. nobody gives a poo poo what you think about this forum, komet.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:14
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:nobody gives a poo poo what you think about this forum, komet. Well, he's not that far off to be perfectly honest.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:15
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The ncaa is only metaphorically a rapist, imho
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Jan 16, 2015 20:17
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Komet posted:I have to be honest, I am relishing more in the hypocrisy of this forum regarding the NCAA than I am in the restoration of the wins. Ultimately, what the settlement means is that the NCAA and the Penn State Board of Trustees can sweep their poo poo under the carpet. The emails that have been released by the NCAA as a result of the suit have been pretty alarming. Penn State fans and administration are more crooked and morally bankrupt than the NCAA could ever hope to be. Siding with the lesser of two evils is not hypocrisy.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:17
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Dear Leader's statue will be back up by the end of 2016.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:18
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You should read what the USA Today published today about what went into the death penalty bluff behind closed doors. Only two presidents supported the death penalty when it came to a vote, and yet Emmert bluffed Penn State into believing that he was all that stood between them and certain annihilation, and that they should sign the consent degree or else. The Freeh report was so shocking and the public was clamoring for an immediate and severe punishment. In the end, what they should have done is waited a few months to make more rational decisions. This was about Emmert flexing his muscle. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2015/01/15/penn-state-ncaa-mark-emmert-death-penalty-consent-decree-rodney-erickson/21826697/
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Jan 16, 2015 20:18
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Mahoning posted:Penn State fans and administration are more crooked and morally bankrupt than the NCAA could ever hope to be. Whoa let's not go saying things we can't take back
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Jan 16, 2015 20:18
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This was one of the few sanctions that should have stuck. THe NCAA hosed everything up though.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:19
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Mahoning posted:Penn State fans and administration are more crooked and morally bankrupt than the NCAA could ever hope to be. Siding with the lesser of two evils is not hypocrisy. Two things: 1) You're a Notre Dame fan so I'd be awfully careful about tossing stones in glass houses. 2) I also wouldn't give the NCAA that much credit. They only acted in this case out of a sense of self-interest, not because they actually gave a flying gently caress. It's not as if they acted with the welfare of the people involved, they only acted so that they could be seen as doing something.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:19
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Komet posted:You should read what the USA Today published today about what went into the death penalty bluff behind closed doors. Only two presidents supported the death penalty when it came to a vote, and yet Emmert bluffed Penn State into believing that he was all that stood between them and certain annihilation, and that they should sign the consent degree or else. The Freeh report was so shocking and the public was clamoring for an immediate and severe punishment. In the end, what they should have done is waited a few months to make more rational decisions. This was about Emmert flexing his muscle. Indeed a rush to judgment lead to PSU and more particularly paterno getting off lighter than it they should have.
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Jan 16, 2015 20:20
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euphronius posted:Indeed a rush to judgment lead to PSU and more particularly paterno getting off lighter than it they should have. That is entirely true. Though let's remember, the dude was loving dead by that point. Like I get it, but let's have a tiny bit of perspective. Are we going to exhume him and have a trial?
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Jan 16, 2015 20:21
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The NCAA is so terrible, by the way I think they should be able to arbitrarily dole out punishment with no regard for their own process if they think it will make people like them more.
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