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Pvt.Scott posted:Hostile takeovers and repo jobs, mostly. But with more dragons and fire, yes.
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Earwicker posted:what is a "banking adventure"? Try asking HSBC.
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Of course Big Yud makes his own mistake by not realizing that the second time you brought a giant pile of metal to the bank to ruin their business, they would smile, let you in, and feed you to one of the many dragons they have. You've been out-pedantic-ed, smart guy!  Better solution: tell them they have a serious security problem that's apparent to a muggle and ask for a finder's fee to tell them about it. Maybe leverage it into a consultant job if you're feeling confident. Money for nothing and NOT pissing off bankers.
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Earwicker posted:what is a "banking adventure"? To find, explore, the funds off shore, and skirt the shoals of bankruptcy...
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cultureulterior posted:while Yudkowsky isn't perfect, he certainly convinced a number of clever people that AI risk was a topic to take seriously. He's been working for a decade and got a "some people believe" skeptically worded paragraph in one AI textbook. To be fair, it is a very good textbook, and it does mention him by name. E: Honestly I agree with (a toned down version of) a lot of the non AI stuff Yudkowsky says. I don't like death either and I think there are at least a few problems that Bayesian inference solves elegantly. And I think people should know about where human intuition breaks down. But he's over the top on half that stuff, and straight up out to lunch on AI existential risk. SolTerrasa fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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 Let me tell you about the inherent flaws in your banking system based on the ones discovered in the system I'm used to, and how 'loving magic' isn't a valid excuse. gently caress it, team death eater, eat the rich, hang him from the lamppost.(Iirc, Rowling was Oxbridge educated, which kinda explains the flaws in her banking system )e: This line-by-line reading is making me pay attention to a lot of the things that I guess I'd just tuned out on my first reading. I remembered him being smug-as-gently caress, but read it more as a 'this is what it'd be like if everyone acted smarter', rather than pure smashmouth. petrol blue fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Feb 25, 2015 |
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I don't really mind the "woah there is serious money to be made loving with the Exchange rate" because it's not like "wizard society is dumb and hasn't changed in pretty much centuries" isn't something that pops up all the time in the books.
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reignonyourparade posted:I don't really mind the "woah there is serious money to be made loving with the Exchange rate" because it's not like "wizard society is dumb and hasn't changed in pretty much centuries" isn't something that pops up all the time in the books. It kinda implies every muggleborn in the world is an idiot.
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Pvt.Scott posted:International finance is actually how muggles use magic. And on that note, shame on Harry for not buying CDS from all the major wizarding businesses and institutions before crashing the wizarding economy. Seriously international finance is loving crazy.
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froward posted:Any bets on how many pages until yudeouesggghsky regs an account solely to deliver scathing posts itt? If he never regged for the thread mocking Less Wrong or people posting his online dating profile, I doubt this is going to push him over the edge. Which, by the way, is a real shame.
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JosephWongKS seems to enjoy finding the most glowing of reviews for the worst things. It adds to the experience to hear from people who not only think this is not a horrible train wreck, but legitimately think that it is good and worthy of praise.
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Pvt.Scott posted:JosephWongKS seems to enjoy finding the most glowing of reviews for the worst things. It adds to the experience to hear from people who not only think this is not a horrible train wreck, but legitimately think that it is good and worthy of praise. Does it really if there are hundreds and hundreds of these people and none of them sound particularly crazy, or at least not in a way that is humorous? I would say drop the review copy-paste because it just detracts or adds nothing to your position, unless you make sure to cherry-pick the most insane people (have fun digging through literally hundreds of reviews).
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Does it really if there are hundreds and hundreds of these people and none of them sound particularly crazy, or at least not in a way that is humorous? quote:bloocheeze chapter 4 . Mar 8, 2010 I'd be alright with a reduction in them but poo poo like this is why I look forward to reviews of chapters almost as much as posts of others' comments.
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The Unholy Ghost posted:(have fun digging through literally hundreds of reviews). Hundreds... heh heh heh... HPMoR posted:Words: 619,173 - Reviews: 26,119 - Favs: 15,300 - Follows: 14,119
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The Unholy Ghost posted:Does it really if there are hundreds and hundreds of these people and none of them sound particularly crazy, or at least not in a way that is humorous? Point taken. I'll paste only the most exuberant reviews henceforth.
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On the "Let's Read: Twisted" thread, it was occasionally said that Twisted would be much improved (not "good", mind you - just substantially less bad) if Railrunner were an ordinary werewolf instead of a were-roller coaster. All the parts concerning Railrunner's claws and affinity to the moon and feral bloodlust would seem far less stupid in the context of a werewolf, for starters. Similarly, I think that HPMOR would be much improved if Harry Potter was aged up by 5 to 10 years - a great part of my annoyance with the story so far comes from the fact that the  sound so unbearably jarring coming from a 10-year old. What do you guys think?
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JosephWongKS posted:On the "Let's Read: Twisted" thread, it was occasionally said that Twisted would be much improved (not "good", mind you - just substantially less bad) if Railrunner were an ordinary werewolf instead of a were-roller coaster. All the parts concerning Railrunner's claws and affinity to the moon and feral bloodlust would seem far less stupid in the context of a werewolf, for starters. Ok, I'm going to say this again - for plot reasons, he's not 10 years old. This is arguably the central story - what the heck is going on with this weird kid? This probably shouldn't bug me, but it does. You've correctly identified an element of a mystery, but you're essentially mocking your own ignorance by claiming it's poor writing. Ironically, you're committing the very fallacy highlighted here. ... Again, this story isn't GREAT, but let's mock the author for being an idiot where it's actually true.
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If your foreshadowing just comes off as you being a lovely writer, you're probably a lovely writer, hth. And that's assuming that Yud had actually planned that twist from the start. It's really obvious from how the first few chapters are written that HP:MoR started as just some side project that Yud only started to take it seriously after it received so much attention. Telarra fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 26, 2015 |
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Added Space posted:Ok, I'm going to say this again - for plot reasons, he's not 10 years old. This is arguably the central story - what the heck is going on with this weird kid? This probably shouldn't bug me, but it does. You've correctly identified an element of a mystery, but you're essentially mocking your own ignorance by claiming it's poor writing. Ironically, you're committing the very fallacy highlighted here. Considering that it's buried in multiple books and many years of lovely fanfic, I think you should probably be less forgiving of the author's  . The dialogue is insufferable and the "mystery" isn't interesting and doesn't draw you in. I read part of this train-wreck and just gave up because no one acted like a kid, and I find the whole thing is cheapened by the author's way out of his bad writing and lovely characterization. I don't care about this insufferable, arrogant, shithead of a protagonist or his molasses in January mystery plot. He could have built this "central story" gradually; instead he dumps the "mystery" in from the word go and then neglects to move it forward for like 30+ chapters. Either his characters or his plot are fatally flawed, it's just down to what flavor of paste big Yud eats.
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akulanization posted:Considering that it's buried in multiple books and many years of lovely fanfic, I think you should probably be less forgiving of the author's Yeah, fair enough, the pacing is poo poo and the lead character is insufferable (oh, we haven't even SEEN the full joy of that yet). I guess it hit a personal nerve for me since I was that kid who would quote a famous scientist at age ten and got bullied for it.  Thankfully I never quite fell into the trap of worshiping my own decidedly marginal genius.
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I thought the Harry Potter world gold coins were hubcap sized or something. Maybe Krugerrands at the smallest? Making them ludicrously heavy, but also screwing with the Fermi estimation. Gold is HEAVY, a Krugerrand is 33g. Off by a factor of 6 from 5g, so still almost close enough for Fermi estimation I guess. Still 20 Krugerrands is a good pound and a half of gold, a good bit more than a tenth of a kilo. I guess Krugerrands are the only real gold coins much minted now, but even old gold guineas or sovereigns were closer to 10g than 5g. Regardless, a purse of a thousand gallons for the triwizard tournament prize will weigh quite a bit. Moreover what sort of Brit uses kilos for weights? The fight against metrication was still alive and well in '97. Bloody quitters.
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JosephWongKS posted:On the "Let's Read: Twisted" thread, it was occasionally said that Twisted would be much improved (not "good", mind you - just substantially less bad) if Railrunner were an ordinary werewolf instead of a were-roller coaster. All the parts concerning Railrunner's claws and affinity to the moon and feral bloodlust would seem far less stupid in the context of a werewolf, for starters. Part of the point is that he's going to bring the magic world come crashing down to its knees in one year. It would not be nearly as funny or impressive if he had spent five years doing nothing. And much more importantly, what Added Space said.
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I remember reading about a dozen chapters of this a couple years ago... maybe. I enjoyed it a bit and thought is was funny, but it really started feeling like the author was just wanking over him being so much smarter than all of these stupid wizards, blah, blah, blah. This is a great let's read though. Keep it up. Also, can't British people weigh things in stone? That sounds like a great way to continually confuse everybody. Just use as many different measuring systems as possible and show that the main character has no trouble switching between them.
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Yeah, some young kids talk like they are 40 with a lifetime of experience behind them. I wasn't one, but my wife was having serious conversations by the age of 2. Her parents and other adults were super creeped out by it. I was a tutor a few years ago for an extremely curious 8 year old that really didn't do much but read tons of stuff all the time (he didn't care for math, so that's where I was helping him), and I could see him in a few years talking in a similar way to Harry. Not quite that bad, but comparable. The author is definitely having a wank, but it isn't that awful. Suspend your disbelief a bit and its much more enjoyable.
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pwnyXpress posted:The author is definitely having a wank, but it isn't that awful. Suspend your disbelief a bit and its much more enjoyable. Ironically, this entire series comes of the author being incapable of doing that himself.
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JosephWongKS posted:That is indeed a rather terrible condition to suffer. Is this an actual thing that exists in the real world? It is actually. Though it normally only happens to people that are completely blind. So, still doesn't make sense.
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Stroth posted:It is actually. Though it normally only happens to people that are completely blind. So, still doesn't make sense.
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Stroth posted:It is actually. Though it normally only happens to people that are completely blind. So, still doesn't make sense. The author claims to suffer from it (at least until his buddies in a "we'll look through really early stage medical research because you don't trust the mainstream opinion on your condition" service he was hawking figured out he should just take sleeping pills a couple hours earlier than the last time he'd tried taking sleeping pills.)
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reignonyourparade posted:The author claims to suffer from it (at least until his buddies in a "we'll look through really early stage medical research because you don't trust the mainstream opinion on your condition" service he was hawking figured out he should just take sleeping pills a couple hours earlier than the last time he'd tried taking sleeping pills.)
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pwnyXpress posted:The author is definitely having a wank, but it isn't that awful. Suspend your disbelief a bit and its much more enjoyable. It's really easy to do this when you've got no idea who Less Wrong is, and then it's just "hey, it's to serve the purpose of poking a bit of fun at the bits of Harry Potter we usually just gloss over for the sake of the story, of course he needs to be a ridiculous smart-alec, I can roll with this".
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Trin Tragula posted:It's really easy to do this when you've got no idea who Less Wrong is, and then it's just "hey, it's to serve the purpose of poking a bit of fun at the bits of Harry Potter we usually just gloss over for the sake of the story, of course he needs to be a ridiculous smart-alec, I can roll with this". Yes, I think part of the problem with HPMOR that is just completely inherent to the work and no changing of the details is going to fix it is that Harry is an intentionally obnoxious protagonist, written by Eliezer Yudkowsky, whose natural mode of writing is the definition of "intellectual pretension" anyway.
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