IzzyFnStradlin posted:

lol this place looks ghetto. i thought goons were smart?

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

lol this place looks ghetto. i thought goons were smart?

open container posted:

it is pretty smart to get an associates at some cheap poo poo school then get a bachelors from somewhere good

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

or, you know, just get a full merit-based scholarship at a normal 4 year school (if saving money is your endgame)

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

or, you know, just get a full merit-based scholarship at a normal 4 year school (if saving money is your endgame)

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

moose face posted:

if saving money is your endgame, don't go to college

revmoo posted:

Yeah pretty much.

I made the wrong choice on a school, dropped out after a semester. Couldn't get any more loans so I worked McJobs for the next 15 years while I worked on my career. I finally got to a decent place but it's taken well over a decade and I can't credit any of it to college.

I now have Sallie Mae coming after me, calling my workplace, calling my in-laws, and harassing me every way they can. They claim I owe 30k.

City of Tampa posted:

Go to college, the people that are telling you not to are screwing with your life. College is how society separates the quality people from the poors with no safety net.

If you get a college degree that means that your parents have their poo poo together, or at least you have your poo poo together enough that your parents don't matter.

You know how many decent jobs require you to have any four-year degree? A lot. These aren't jobs that require you to know how to do something specific, or even be relatively intelligent or hard-working. They just want to know that you aren't trash. You prove this by "earning" (i.e. showing up to 80% of classes) a degree in whatever.

Alternately you could go to trade school or get an apprenticeship and learn how to do something useful, and maybe work for yourself or start a business someday. But if you aren't going to do that just get a degree in anything so you can have one of those decent-paying do-nothing jobs.

Shadow posted:

Why the confusion over what's owed?

Shadow posted:

Sure, but don't pay a loving dime more than $5k a year for this. If you can't pay your school off while you go with a part time job, you're paying too much.

Unless you're going to get recruited by a big 4 firm because you're at a top tier school you're wasting money.

City of Tampa posted:

I wouldn't even worry about going $20k or so into debt, just don't be one of those idiots that ends up owing $80k on some useless degree.

The difference between one of those "any four-year degree" jobs and the kinds of jobs you get with no skills and no college degree can easily be $15-20k in just one year.

revmoo posted:

I didn't say I was confused

Nefarious posted:

also go to the best college you can get into and don't worry about money or jobs.

jesus christ learning poo poo makes you a better person you autistic fucks

Nefarious posted:

jesus christ learning poo poo makes you a better person you autistic fucks

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

I learned more researching history to mod a loving video game than I did in any history class I ever took.

Nefarious posted:

holy poo poo this is the gooniest goddamn thing I've ever read

Nefarious posted:

also go to the best college you can get into and don't worry about money or jobs.

jesus christ learning poo poo makes you a better person you autistic fucks

Nefarious posted:

also go to the best college you can get into and don't worry about money or jobs.

jesus christ learning poo poo makes you a better person you autistic fucks

Shadow posted:

lol an honorary associates degree. guess a bachelor's from Pierce is too prestigious to just hand out.

no offense



nominate me plz

Shadow posted:

this

If you don't know what you want to be or if the job you want doesn't ABSOLUTELY require the degree, don't invest more money in an industry that's a oval office hair from its bubble bursting. Medical and Student Loans never go away. They will garnish wages and remain even after filing for bankruptcy. You're literally better off buying a loving house at 18. Seriously, you could max out every credit card and live it up for 4 years, traveling and dining on credit (gaining some serious life experience while you're at it!) and file for bankruptcy and at-worst, get some poo poo taken back. That would be more financially responsible at this point than getting a college loan unless you're deadset on being a doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc--a job where without the degree you will absolutely not get hired, despite knowledge. Hell even engineering. If you can learn it on your own, don't pay some assholes $100k to give you a certificate. Unless you're delusional into thinking Google's coming for you, you're not going to be better off.

I went to Northeastern and have a business degree from 2004. While I feel it helped me in entrepreneurial ways, I didn't necessarily need to spend nearly over $150k for the degree. What I should have done was taken the scholarship I had to UNH and gotten a business degree from there. I'm just lucky my parents paid for my tuition or I'd probably just be paying off student loans now. I still to this day regret not taking that scholarship. At best, I would have made money by going to UNH and at worst, the whole drat thing would have probably cost us $3-5k. At the time I was still brainwashed (my parents too) into thinking the college you went to mattered. Hint: it doesn't unless you're going to a top tier college in an industry that does aggressive recruiting like finance, law, etc. And even then it never matters after your first job unless you went to the holy grail of your industry (i.e. a surgeon from John Hopkins or a lawyer from Harvard)

Don't go to college. If you have to ask, don't go. If you aren't sure yet what you want to do, don't go, or at best go later. We need to bring back apprenticeships. Go to trade school or learn from someone who will pay you to be his gopher/assistant. I really hope the mentor/apprentice thing makes a real comeback. They still do them in Europe. My ex got an apprenticeship and eventually worked for Microsoft (MSN at the time).

When my dad went to college (UMass Lowell) he was an immigrant working minimum wage jobs and paying his tuition on time every semester. He graduated with multiple Masters degrees. You couldn't do that today. The whole system is hosed. The 90s hosed it all up because the economy was great and a bunch of literal retards were duped into thinking they should go to college. Now it's become "the thing you do."

tl;dr don't go to college.

Nefarious posted:

i guess if you want to get your it certificate while you poopsock mmo's so that you can get a good job to support your mmo habit, what you guys are saying makes sense

for those of us without aspergers college is a once in a lifetime chance to learn new things, meet new people, bone gorgeous co-eds, discover new passions, realize how dumb you used to be, visit new places, and, lastly develop connections with other successful people who went to a good school that will help you in the job market later