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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Zephro posted:

Any party that isn't Labour, the Tories or the Lib Dems is a joke because FPTP gives them no reason to aim at competency. It's the worst system.

Before the last election people would have said the same of the Lib Dems, though.

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

JFairfax posted:

He was a closet Catholic who hates Islam who had the opportunity to join a crusade and took it.

I remember being at Glastonbury festival in 1997 and everyone was ridiculously optimistic about Tony Blair and the labour government.

Now look at it, PFI, sold all the gold, war legacy. loving hosed it up didn't he.

That one was Gordon Brown. On the other hand if Tony had had his way we'd be in the Euro now, which sadly in retrospect it turns out would have been a terrible idea.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Party Boat posted:

Weirdly back in 2011 she co-signed a letter that said that a Trident replacement would be a bad use of funds and other options, including disarmament, should be considered. Apparently her views have since changed.

Well, to be fair in the interval the Ukraine happened.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Lord Twisted posted:

I'm sorry, this sounds like complete loving bollocks.

Dismissal protests generally take two forms - Wrongful and Unfair.

Wrongful is if a dismissal was in breach of your employment contract - e.g. you had to be given 2 weeks notice and didn't have a Payment in Lieu of Notice Clause (PILON) and they gave you one day's notice.

Unfair is if you have a grievance with the manner/reason for your dismissal. The employer has to comply with a two limb test;
a) They have to show the reason for dismissal was reasonable.
b) They have to show the manner in which you were dismissed was reasonable in all the circumstances.


Manner usually goes to the procedure - e.g. was there a disciplinary hearing, could you exercise your legal right to have a trade union rep with you if you requested one, etc.


The Tories have done a lot of bad things regarding employment tribunals (e.g. introducing a fee for them if I'm correct), but don't talk poo poo about stuff you clearly have no idea about.

Happy to be proven wrong, but lets see some sources.


I know you cant go to an employment tribunal for unfair dismissal for the first two years so how do you enforce this?
https://www.gov.uk/dismissal/what-to-do-if-youre-dismissed

Note that Labour brought this in, the Tories extended it from one to two years.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 28, 2015

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Whitefish posted:

Yes, this is correct.

Wrongful dismissal is an action for breach of contract and you can claim wrongful dismissal at any time. Usually wrongful dismissal actions are because the employer gave the employee insufficient notice of termination of their contract.

Unfair dismissal is generally only available to employees who have been employed for at least 2 years. There are exceptional cases where the qualifying period is not required, and these relate to things like trade union activity, maternity and paternity leave, etc.

Employees also have protection from the Equality Act 2010 if they have been discriminated against. There's no qualifying period for this.

So before 2 years you can be dismissed for any reason as long as you get enough notice and you cant prove that, eg, its because your black? Because thats basically how it works in America too.

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