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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Jose posted:

I never said the revolution wasn't successful.

Anyway its good that we're trying to do more with tidal power as the people behind the Swansea plan are looking at other sites

http://www.itv.com/news/west/update/2015-03-02/could-the-uks-biggest-tidal-power-plant-be-based-in-somerset/

Honestly let's just dump all of the UK's energy generation in Bridgwater. It's not like the place is much more than a commuter town for Hinkley as it is.

Also, what are people's opinions on the Morning Star? I've never bothered picking a copy up until today - it's not bad and brings up news that may not make it to the surface otherwise but the opposition to American imperialism at all costs gets a little painful to read, especially when letter writers are calling the situation in Ukraine a "NATO-backed Kiev junta" :cripes:

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



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HorseLord posted:

Frankly if you think a paper opposing US imperialism is "painful to read" perhaps you should consider your politics are poo poo.

You're a loving idiot that hasn't written what I said at all. Opposing US imperialism = good. Opposing US imperialism to the degree where you completely and utterly ignore Russian imperialism = not so good.

Basically:

Kegluneq posted:

Yes, US imperialism is definitely the main cause of the fighting in the Ukraine. That innocent Mr Putin is just helping the rebels to Bash the Fash and should be commended for his efforts.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Disinterested posted:

HorseLord has a lot of sympathy for dictators as long as they're not uncool American-sponsored types. I think you'll be waiting a long time for a fan of Stalin to get on the anti-Putin bandwagon.

Edit: also voting 1 until the Marxism tag comes back. Capitalist pigdogs.

You've got to be seriously delusional to not realise that Putin is a massive imperialist, although I wouldn't be surprised.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

DesperateDan posted:

The Morning Star has some good articles and provides a very different viewpoint to other papers, but yes, there is a tendency to polarise things like the Ukraine crisis, where despite America bad, sometimes, just sometimes, the alternative is worse.

Pretty much standard in socialist circles really :smith:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

HorseLord posted:

What I'm interested in is why you think because I don't buy the western narrative of events I automatically buy into the capitalist Russia one, especially when I've not voiced any support of Putin or the post soviet collapse Kremin ever in my entire life, never mind this forum.

Calling it a NATO-backed junta is pretty much Russia's current narrative buddy.

Also loving lol that if you're not a loving Russia-worshipping Stalinist that you must be a milquetoast liberal. You're the actualisation of what PWM thinks the UKMT is. Kudos, that takes some work.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pasco posted:

It looks like it's intended to allow experimental treatments to be tried on otherwise terminal patients, which sounds like a good idea to me :confused:

What Jose said but also doctors are already allowed to do this to a degree - it's common to administer treatments in a trial state when conventional options have been exhausted (with patient consent, of course).

The bill attempts to fix something that isn't broken; responsible innovation in treatment is already a-ok. What it does mean is that patients/families lose the scope to bring malpractice suits when irresponsible innovation is undertaken

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
I thoroughly support the annihilation of Broadstairs

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Disinterested posted:

I am in favour of complete abolition of Tories, including their children.

It is the only way to be sure.

It's like werewolves

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pissflaps posted:

They made millions off a plagiarised song so have to pay a large portion of that to the copyright holders they stole from. What's so ridiculous about that?

Pretty much. gently caress Thicke and Williams, it's clear as day stolen and the damages seem legit for the popularity of the song

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



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serious gaylord posted:

How do you monetize the value of Robin Thicke having a career because of it?

Well, apparently they have :v:

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Pretty surprised to see mfcrocker defending rich people's inheritances!

One of those "whoever wins, we lose" situations

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
The solution is obvious (full communism)

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
It's going to be hilarious when Fartrage doesn't win a seat this election.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Spangly A posted:

There are genuinely no non-white british tory voters in Broadstairs. Al Murray is campaigning for people who think he's a real person, and it won't work.

Latest constituency polls have a Tory hold http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2015/01/thanet-south-2/

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Spangly A posted:

Look at the size of that swing from July, though. All it'll take is a lack of major fuckups and Farage takes it.

I'll be ecstatic, I'd rather not spend as much time as I do in Farage's home. But this is a place where they openly sell gollywogs at markets. It's happening.

Interestingly it's Labour apparently losing ground to the Tories in the recent poll :v:

I know what Broadstairs is like (gran used to live in Dumpton) and it's definitely Farage's best shot of a seat. That said, there's a decent chance he doesn't get it still.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
We went for nipper. It probably got bastardised somewhere because no one knew what the real word meant :3:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

OwlFancier posted:

Swedish war-metal band Sabaton wrote a pretty good song about it though, so I think the Falklands War was justified, IMO.

Sabaton's best song is about D-Day and was done better a capella :colbert:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
It's not super surprising that the Green Party aren't a particularly diverse bunch.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Jack the Lad posted:

Anyone watch(ing) PMQs?

Yeah, watching my annual PMQs while I wait for the budget. It's a bunch of shite and Cameron's insistence on focusing on constituency figures isn't very good.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
This budget, in no surprise, seems very heavily aimed at the middle and upper classes. Increases to higher rate band, inheritance tax changes, savings tax exemptions.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

LemonDrizzle posted:

I wonder if you can use them to build up a larger deposit than you actually need and then pocket the surplus when you finally get around to buying.

Almost certainly.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
This is a surprisingly strong speech by Miliband :stare:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Spangly A posted:

yo buddy we can predict the price of gold at six months to a day and call a crash to within a week. I have more qualifications than Osbourne in the matter, and I'm not stupid enough to think Chicago school has merit.

Market models demonstrating emergent behaviour doesn't mean that mechanisms to create the emergence aren't themselves able to be model. It's not a fake subject just cause it's most influenced by the greedy and stupid.

Debt/GDP is such a beautiful example. We have endlessly demonstrated that it is completely meaningless, and yet some prick with corporate backing makes a bullshit paper that lasts five seconds and boom, we've got George Osbourne's chief influence.

Bright young things in the treasury? They aren't bright, and they don't understand economics. They can do sums and they love their self-important propaganda. We're run by people with opinions as valid as creationists.

Thanks for vocalising something I couldn't quite say right when I first read Coohoolin's statement.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Note that most of this is talking about macroeconomics too. There's quite a lot of good to be found in microeconomics.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Coohoolin posted:

Economics is different because people pretend it's some grand immutable force of nature to be descriptively studied.

This is a really cynical view of economics. Most economists are fully aware of the limitations of their models.

Politicians on the other hand...

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Darth Walrus posted:

Whoops, typo.

Was gonna say, if you can vote SNP you probably should.

You're not the only person unsure where to vote but it's sure as poo poo not going to be a major party.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Regarde Aduck posted:

Speaking of BT stuff I have a very specific question. I'm on an direct line to the exchange and apparently this fucks with my access to superfast broadband because I don't connect to a cabinet. They are extremely vague whether or not i'll ever get it. Anyone else had this problem and had BT finally do something?

I'm in the same situation and having the same experience. We're both hosed.

This isn't even rural I live in central Bristol :ohdear:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

mrpwase posted:

I saw the eclipse through a welder's mask, the most proleterian method.

Remember doing this for the last total eclipse as a young'un. Sadly no welder's masks in my adult job :( stupid pinhole cameras

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Prince John posted:

While I accept there wasn't much harm caused in the incident we're discussing, there's an eerie "we can behave like fascists, as long as our targets are nationalist and xenophobic" vibe floating about the way in which UAF and other groups confront UKIP et al.

Ah yes, anti-fascists are the real fascists.

These protesters were clearly colossal tosspots. I'd have no problem (and have had no problem in the past) if they were doing it to him on the campaign trail but clearly protesting while he eats in a restaurant is daft. That said, comparing it to fascism is ridiculous - it's not like he's had his head kicked in, some wankers have just decided a sit-down meal is fair game to give him some stick.

I guess the point I'm making is that the fash probably don't bring a pinata.

N-E: Cerv knows what's up

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

BigPaddy posted:

Can people you know, stop fighting like tinkers?

On that note can the debates be replaced by a conkers tournament where the winner of each match in a round robin will get 3 minutes of mic time to spout soundbites?

Cameron would refuse to join the debates unless he can use vinegar and bake his conker in the oven. The networks threaten to empty chair him but eventually cave.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

PiCroft posted:

So what are the odds of a Tory minority governemnt, propped up by UKIP? My fear is that the Tories will be the largest overall party, but not large enough for a majority government. This being so, they'll have first crack at forming the next government and they may bring UKIP in.

It sbeen a while since I've seen up-to-date polls, but is the SNP and Labour still set to be the largest possible cooperating bloc, or has the Budget shifted it towards the Conservatives?

UKIP won't win enough seats

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Oberleutnant posted:

it sounds retarded

Less of this poo poo.

Cerv posted:

what it doesn't sound like is something worthy of national news coverage.

:agreed:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Oberleutnant posted:

sorry did i trigger you

Don't be a dickhead

Pissflaps posted:

My feelings are that I find it amusing that people claim to be 'triggered' by clapping, and absurd that their claims would be pandered to in this way.

It's not that weird to be negatively affected by sudden loud noises :confused:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pissflaps posted:

Everybody can be negatively affected by sudden loud noises. This response to that is laughable. I'm laughing at it.

Sure, but not all to the same degree and to some enough to constitute a disability. Are you saying that it's funny that the NUS are making themselves more accessible to people with anxiety issues? Because yeah, that seems like a pretty decent thing to do.

We can all have a good giggle at the Tumblrite otherkin special snowflakes triggered by depictions of cheese but this seems like an entirely reasonable action to take to help people with serious anxiety problems.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Ddraig posted:

Have people never been to a live performance or witnessed any sort of performing art anywhere?

Applause is pretty common. It's also pretty predictable. It usually comes at the end of a performance.

This isn't a performance though and applause at political conferences can be spontaneous and unexpected.

Pissflaps posted:

Laughter is fascism.

Ha ha, look at those people with mental health issues! HILARIOUS!

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

serious gaylord posted:

Well nothing. Which highlights the absurdity of the request.

Plenty of people respond to "please don't be a jerk" without a threat of repercussions. It's called not being a shitlord.

Fans posted:

I'm glad we honored Clarkson's dismissal by having an argument about how Political Correctness has gone mad.

It does seem somewhat fitting. Got loads of people moaning about PC going mad... because someone punched a colleague at work and got fired for it :confused:

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pissflaps posted:

Are people who clap really 'shithead jerks'?

If you've previously been asked politely to show some consideration then yeah? This didn't happen though because people showed some decency and understanding

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

XMNN posted:

I'd applaud their decency and compassion but, well, you know...

Just wave your hands in the air (like you really do care)

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Kegluneq posted:

'And if you think that's ridiculous, wait till you see the nonsense that is the Universal Minimum Wage!' :haw:

Yeah, I get that Prince John probably just googled it but holy hell gently caress whoever runs that blog

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Ludicro posted:

No not my drag queens :(



See, now this here is a poorly written motion. With such wishy-washy language and so many exceptions it basically doesn't mean a bloody thing

E:

Zephro posted:

So wait, a woman can dress up as a female version of Hulk Hogan (which is cross-play*) but can't wear belt and braces to a fancy dress party (which is cross-dressing)?

edit: but presumably could wear belt and braces if they were going as a female version of Gordon Gekko, because he's a "character" and thus that would make it cross-play rather than cross-dressing?



*I think

As evidenced by trying to actually apply it at all

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

tooterfish posted:

You can't get drunk on the job and subject your co-workers to verbal tirades and punches to the face any more?

It's political correctness gone mad Stu

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