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counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Pulaski was a p. good bones. But really, she can't be as good as the original bones so why try so hard? They tried to rekindle the Bones Spock dynamic with her and Data, but she just came off as constantly berating an autistic child.

Also, the guy who is watching DS9 the first time, sadly Klingon Chef only has like one more really tiny bit part. However, in a few seasons you will meet the most klingoniest klingon who ever klingoned, and it will be amazing.

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counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Orange Sunshine posted:

Which one? They're all like that.

Your ignorance makes my wounds ache

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

I guess we are relatively lucky that all the sentient holographic fuckslaves have been as adult as a hologram program that was literally just created can be.

No kiddie child hologram porn, is what I'm saying. There is an Aatrek joke here somewhere I suppose.

I bet quark has a nice selection for you to choose from. For a reasonable fee, of course.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
The proper answer is to watch BSG for like the 4th time.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Pneub posted:

He probably did run the 'stick your dick in the warp core' holodeck program whenever he got the chance, but that's his wife, it's different.

e: He had Data officiate the ceremony, then ordered him to never tell a soul.

Data outranks Geordi. Geordi can't give him orders like that.
:goonsay:

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Shadow posted:

Haha ease up fella.


It's late but this made me laugh out loud. Geordie is such a loving goon.

I'm not sure if it was the same episode, but my favorite part of Geordi can't get laid stuff was when he was being awkward in 10 forward, and Worf was there, and Worf is like "You have to let her see the fire in your eyes!" And Geordi gives him this brief "Did you really say that you loving rear end in a top hat?" look, before shaking it off. The burn is never even really acknowledged.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Everything Voyager did with the holodeck was loving awful. The doctor was fine as a single anomaly, but when they were all like, welp, I guess we need some kind of lovely moral dilemma, what if holodeck characters are actually people now, and we've actually been enslaving them all along? But we still need our crap holodeck filler shows, so only sometimes.

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counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Luigi Thirty posted:

Holodecks are supposed to be the latest technology in TNGland and require a massive power source (like a warp drive) to operate.

In voyager they had to specify that the holodecks had their own dedicated power source, so they could keep them running all the time while still being on the far side of the galaxy with limited resources and rationing. You know, for both episodes where limited resources actually mattered.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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I like Erzi the best because of that time Garak get pissed off and ripped her a new rear end in a top hat for each of her past lives.

One of my goals in life is to end an amazing verbal smack down with "Now get out of here. Before I say something unkind."

Fake edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Adm5SNv0Q

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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VendaGoat posted:

I didn't read the thread, I don't give a gently caress. I just came here to post Leeta From DS9



Your comments and arguments are invalid.

Take those brains over to the dabo table where the customers can get a nice look at them.

:pervert:

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
The borg were a great idea for a villain that got worse every time they were used. By the time voyager got a hold of them it was like warcrimes level of bad.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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what? Yikes.
There were a lot of things that hurt the borg, but the one thing that did the most damage I think was introducing the queen so that Data and Action Movie Star Bruce Willis Picard would have someone to exchange quips with.

Not only was the queen not that great of an idea, but she was so unborg like. She was petty and emotional and selfish, and just a generic evil villain.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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what? Yikes.

Fetus Tree posted:

the planets became politically inconvenient AFTER they already made their homes there, btw

No they weren't. They were specifically warned not to settle on the planets they did because they were in dispute, but they settled anyways. (The native american TNG episode)

The maquis could have been an interesting, morally ambiguous idea in any other setting, but in post scarcity star trek, they're just selfish assholes throwing a fit because the federation won't start an war on behalf of their rocks and poo poo. Their fondness for their planet and avoiding the inconvenience of having an all expenses paid move to literally any other planet in the federation was not worth the lives of however many millions die in an interstellar war. In conclusion, gently caress the maquis.

The federation should have put those entitled twats in a holodeck simulation to move them to another planet without their knowing, like Worf's brother did.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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gnomes, and it's like
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Figaro posted:

But on the other hand, I really like Major Kira and Ro Laren. They're the best

Kira's development on the show is one of my favorite things about DS9. That first (or second?) season episode where she has to get that stubborn old man to move and she has an existential crisis as she realizes, holy poo poo, I'm not longer fighting the man, I am the man is one of the underrated episodes imo. And of course Duets, which everyone rightfully loves.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Kieko spent the first few seasons on the station. Then she was camping and living on cliffsides scraping up moss or some poo poo for a season or two. The last several seasons they were at war so Obrien couldn't just gently caress off away from his post for several days at a time considering they were on the front lines.

Besides, anytime spent away from the station means not holodecking and playing darts with a man he loves likes more than his wife. Would you rather chat with Kieko about the finer points of Bajoran botany or try to win the battle of the Alamo by using a moat?

To be fair, the distance from Bajor thing was really bullshit. A starship can clear a star system in minutes on impulse, but Bajoran shuttle service? Three hours.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Star Trek technology has always been a mindfuck, especially how they ignore kinetic energy like that gun. Something the size of a photon torpedo slamming into a planet at warp speed could potentially crack it. Just using them at full impulse (which is .7 C) would absolutely devastate anything. With power like that, even if they didn't want to destroy a planet, it could just as easily punch holes clean through an enemy ship.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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"Complex patterns" can't be replicated. Also, all the food is like textured basic proteins or something and actually tastes like that snot they eat on the Matrix, which is why people who are used to real food hate it.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Flo Cytometer posted:

im not reading 50 pages of this poo poo bring back hotdog racist

Okay, cool.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Entropic posted:

In a Jar-Jar Binks way.

Also isn't he married to a four-year-old?

Nah, he dumped her long before she got that old.

"I am three years old now, and I can date whoever I want!"
- A character in Voyager

Obligatory :aatrek:

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Shadow posted:

On TNG, Data was pretty interesting, but the only other part-machine was Geordie. And he wasn't interesting at all. Remember that episode that had him hallucinating his mom? I didn't give 2 shits about any of that. gently caress you, Geordie. You're boring, you're lame, and you're awkward.

Leah Brahms account spotted.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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I thought he broke that case so that past-lady could smugly say "You broke your little ships", driving home the Moby Dick reference.

I've always wondered how anyone is able to keep their quarters so neat, since people are being thrown around the bridge every other episode. No wonder Alexander turned out such a mess and wanted to leave. Every time there was a red alert, it was basically like "The ship is probably going to shake a lot soon, go to the quarters filled with sharp jagged things on every wall. You can't leave until it's over."

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Pneub posted:

All he could do was buckle into his dad's weird-rear end ball chair and ride it out



Oh my god i forgot about the beautiful loving chair. I've never had much interest in buying old TV/movie props, but I am legit jealous of whatever hypernerd blew his life savings to buy that thing.

Edit: Oh.

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counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Those ridges don't stop at his forehead you know.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Angela Christine posted:

+

True love forever.

Barclay was scary as gently caress, don't front.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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I've never understood the interest in opening sequences, either for or against.

Like people constantly rag on the Enterprise one, and I'm like, I saw it once, and then skipped it every other time while watching on netflix, I honestly forgot it even had lyrics for awhile. Do people who care about this poo poo actually watch the opening sequence every single episode?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Fetus Tree posted:

some people like the artistic merit i'd guess

some people remember when netflix and dvr wasnt a thing so you had to watch them

i dont particularly care either but it seems weird to walk into a thread thats prolly filled with autists and be like, eh, weird how yall care about this mundane aspect of this defunct tv franchise eh

Yeah, I guess you're right. For me it makes about as much sense as comparing the fonts used during the ending credits of each show, but I need to remember my particular flavor of crippling autism is not the only flavor.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Tighclops posted:

Yeah it is, the Enterprise is a character and she got the reintroduction she rightly deserved. TMP took it's pacing a bit far in places and yeah, it's something you gotta be in the mood for (It's a shame the Director's Cut was only ever rendered in SD, it tightens things up) but I prefer it and it's flaws to the modern style of having no pacing at all and the story being a lame excuse to get to the next CGI setpiece.


Whoa whoa whoa did someone just poo poo on the TWoK uniforms? I've literally never seen or even heard of that happening before.

The uniforms themselves were okay, but that god drat flap always drove me crazy. What kind of fuckarded moron came up with that poo poo. There's nothing actually casual or dressed down about undoing that stupid flap, it's just as tight and normal as before, except not you have an extra white piece of cloth flapping around on your chest, presumably so that when the chief engineer carries a corpse the length of the ship from engineering to the bridge for dramatic purposes, you can get blood on it I guess?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Blistex posted:

I think it was the ST:VI Blue Ray that had Nicholas Meyer saying he had heard about the story, and like you said, jumped at the chance to do it. He also said that when he got ST:II he wanted to turn it into "British Navy in Space", and tried to throw in as much Navy stuff as he could, (uniform changes, "running out the guns", boarding whistles, burial at sea, etc.). He also said that he saw Kirk as Horatio Hornblower, and used every bit of creative control he had to make it STII: Master and Commander.


I honestly don't know what to say. It's tied for ST:II as the best trek in my book.

This explains why all Starfleet issue shuttles can access and play Gilbert and Sullivan with only three button presses.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Angela Christine posted:

When was he on the real world?



I would pay a lot of money to see Christopher Lloyd on The Real World.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Yaos posted:

By this point Data has been in Starfleet for 20 years and is 3rd in command of the Enterprise. He's only just now learning about terrorism? Wouldn't there be a class in Starfleet Academy on it? Shouldn't he be able to use his android brain to read, watch, and listen to all sources on the subject? At this point, Google Search is better than Data. Wikipedia alone has numerous articles on terrorism and thousands of references.

Data is amusing but a lot of his poo poo, especially in the earlier seasons will hurt your brain if you think about it for even a second. He's been activated and running for over 20 years by the start of the show, having spent most of that time in Starfleet surrounded by people constantly, yet he consistently hears expressions and metaphors for literally the first time ever, and is stopped dead in his tracks by them. What if the Romulans show up one day during Delta Shift and the Romulan commander turns a phrase during tense negotiations?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Lil Peeler posted:

I finished DS9 recently and skipped over most of the Ferengi episodes because when they weren't boring they were creepy. Anyone else?

Although the A51 ep. was pretty cool.

The Magnificent Ferengi is glorious, and you are lessened by having not watched it.

Other than that, yeah, p. much.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Does anyone have the old memo Roddenberry wrote about Ferengi back when he was ruining the first season of TNG? Someone posted it in the terrible TV IV thread years ago. He talks about how Ferengi have hooked penises that human women find "irresistible" or something.

For some reason the producers decided to leave that out of the show.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Mr. Pumroy posted:

i liked when sisko was host to dax's murderer guy and he put his hands on the forcefield then started bashing his head against it

Any time Avery Brooks starts over acting and emphasizing every syllable, you know you're in for a good scene.

Have you been practicing your music Jad-zi-a?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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I never understood why goons insist that one life in front of you is more important than two lives that aren't right in front of you? I always thought the point was there was no good choice, and no matter what you decide, someone ceases to exist.

Except of course that tuvix was actually an interesting character I guess, which does give him an edge.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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"Computer, create a holodeck character capable of satisfying Captain Janeway sexually."

Next episode Voyager arrives at earth, commanded by a hologram Riker wearing the doctors hologram mcguffin.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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loving Mot the Barber keeps that ship together man, he appears a few times. There's an episode where the entire crew leaves the ship for space reasons, but Mot comes back to get his saddle (every serious riding has their own saddle) and faces off against Tuvok and a band of pirates with a crossbow.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fWy9UMDHs

I am literally a child.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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To be fair, I remember that she hosed data almost as much as I remember rape gangs lol

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

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Huge Lady Pleaser posted:

Lol if you think that everyone uses drugs to escape. I mean have you even smoked a weed?

Voluntary addiction to drugs is a recurrent theme in many cultures.

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Feb 26, 2010

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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:

My favorite episode so far is when they all had to dress up like Klingons. Why did they bring Odo and O Brien along? My second favorite is when Beshir and that redemptive prick cardassian and Worf all got captured and the cardassian went crazy in the walls.

My favorite moment is Odos "I'm not using the bucket anymore" or something like that.

The best part of that was Pirate Dukat. I would have loved an series about renegade Dukat and Dumar murdering the poo poo out of unsuspecting klingons in their stolen bird of prey, no prime directive or federation bullshit to slow them down at all. Kira can come along just so she can hate Dukat on screen some more.

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