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I have a serious political opinion about an arbitrary percentage *picks a percentage that is inaccurate to the "problem" and just creates more division than making a legitimate point*
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I swung by the local OWS camp a few times, day one and two it had a good turnout then quickly became a place for 10-15 permanently unemployed fibro suffering tumblr trust fund kids to hang out all the time, I once got to watch them lecture each other about privilege because one tried to give another a flier and stressed it was super important to look over and the poor first party felt stressed and unwelcomed by the aggressive overture. It's like yea so I just came by after working a 10 hour shift and you've all been here loving with Twitter all day. I don't support this.
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Zippy the Bummer posted:drum circles The histrionic drum circle transsexual that regularly derailed activist circles and nearly ended OWS owned quote:Unfortunately there is one individual who is NOT a drummer but who claims to speak for the drummers who has been a deeply disruptive force, attacking the drumming rep during the GA and derailing his proposal, and disrupting the community board meeting, as well as the OWS community relations meeting. She has also created strife and divisions within the POC caucus, calling many members who are not ‘on her side' "Uncle Tom", "the 1%", "Barbie" "not Palestinian enough" "Wall Street politicians" "not black enough" "sell-outs", etc. People have been documenting her disruptions, and her campaign of misinformation, and instigations. She also has a documented history online of defamatory, divisive and disruptive behavior within the LGBT (esp. transgender) communities. Her disruptions have made it hard to have constructive conversations and productive resolutions to conflicts in a variety of forums in the past several days. http://gawker.com/5852992/is-the-drum-circle-about-to-kill-occupy-wall-street
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Mar 31, 2015 02:04
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Return Of JimmyJars posted:The Houston oWS was literally 50% undercover dhs/fbi/local pd. No poo poo. Nearly every local Occupy was infiltrated. For being so dismissive, the gov was purty scared about the whole ordeal. In my city we all hung out, discussed, made friends, made love. We didn't accomplish anything tangible but then we went on to do this. Also nearly everyone has stuck to activism and protest. We are at the forefront of the anti-fracking movement and generally bash both lovely parties every chance we get.
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Mar 31, 2015 02:07
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I went to the ows meetings in new Orleans and it was pathetic. It was a bunch of bickering over problems that didn't matter. One guy was using it to just push his agenda. He really wanted to rename the park to Avery Alexander Park and would take over the meeting every time with that bullshit! I stopped going because of him. We did manage to have a lunch one day and fed a lot of homeless guys so that was good.
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Frijolero posted:No poo poo. Nearly every local Occupy was infiltrated. For being so dismissive, the gov was purty scared about the whole ordeal. Did any of you win? Or at least get more then five percent of the vote?
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Mar 31, 2015 02:21
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huskarl_marx posted:also lol @ the fascists in this thread saying "the only thing this anti-authoritarian movement needs is a strong centralized authority!"
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Mar 31, 2015 02:22
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Eustachy posted:the only thing disorganized mobs accomplish is being stinky agreed. they needed more timothy mcveigh and less timothy-the-gay, imho
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Agag posted:Well lets see, of the three things named one introduced modern labor laws to the developed world, the other constitutes half the US political duopoly, and the third is a giant punchline of people getting raped and beaten in a park. ows at least moved the overton window slightly back to the left so that issues like income inequality can actually be discussed in our nation's political discourse which is more than dems or unions have accomplished in decades ows was just about useless and yet, not as useless as unions and the dems of today 
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Mar 31, 2015 02:32
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Cyberball 2072 posted:I swung by the local OWS camp a few times, day one and two it had a good turnout then quickly became a place for 10-15 permanently unemployed fibro suffering tumblr trust fund kids to hang out all the time, I once got to watch them lecture each other about privilege because one tried to give another a flier and stressed it was super important to look over and the poor first party felt stressed and unwelcomed by the aggressive overture. Because local police let the OWS tent city here stay up for so long, it slowly shifted from 20-something, middle class, white protesters trying (and failing) to change the world, to all of the city's mentally ill, deranged and dangerous homeless population taking up residence in the camp. The tent city actually had segregation and good/bad "neighborhoods" within it. An elite 1% of OWS protestors if you will, not willing to live next to the homeless/crazy masses.
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Mar 31, 2015 02:34
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Are people still really saying OWS had no goals or message? The main goal was clear, get money out of politics. In concrete terms this would be regulated campaign funding, no private donations and funded by taxes, no helping pass legislation then immediately retiring to cushy middle management, no filling your chamber of commerce with bankers, that kinda stuff. They had a bunch of other misc goals and demands like relief of student debt or w/e but making it so the government wasn't so readily manipulated by the wealthiest people was the main thing and you are straight up retarded if you did not pick that up.
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Pawn 17 posted:The tent city actually had segregation and good/bad "neighborhoods" within it. An elite 1% of OWS protestors if you will, not willing to live next to the homeless/crazy masses. lmao
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Boner Zone posted:ows at least moved the overton window slightly back to the left so that issues like income inequality can actually be discussed in our nation's political discourse which is more than dems or unions have accomplished in decades Ten million people in America have health insurance right now because of Obamacare, you stupid rear end in a top hat. ArbitraryC posted:Are people still really saying OWS had no goals or message? The main goal was clear, get money out of politics. In concrete terms this would be regulated campaign funding, no private donations and funded by taxes, no helping pass legislation then immediately retiring to cushy middle management, no filling your chamber of commerce with bankers, that kinda stuff. They had a bunch of other misc goals and demands like relief of student debt or w/e but making it so the government wasn't so readily manipulated by the wealthiest people was the main thing and you are straight up retarded if you did not pick that up. I thought their main thing was income inequality?
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Mar 31, 2015 02:55
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Whiskey Sours posted:Canada has two communist parties: the Communist Party of Canada and the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist). And between the two of them they've accomplished just as much as Occupy Wall Street did. you forgot the Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada: http://www.pcr-rcp.ca/
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Mar 31, 2015 03:04
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boom boom boom posted:I thought their main thing was income inequality?
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boom boom boom posted:Ten million people in America have health insurance right now because of Obamacare, you stupid rear end in a top hat. Lol. OP is this true?
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Mar 31, 2015 03:09
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OWS had good and cool goals but this high point For me with Protests movement was an 18-year old girl with a chronic respiratory issue who was willing to put wheels on her oxygen tank and wheel it around every Saturday morning at the local farmers market to ask people if they could support a non-discrimination ordinance being proposed in the city limits. Seeing as she got me to support it and work as an activist for it and the ordinance only passed by 2 votes the organization and expectations OWS was pushing seemed juvinile in comparison. It's people asking for money to leave politics and student loans to be forgiven by occupying a space vs. people getting out every Saturday morning to get out supporting a concrete if realistic policy.
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Mar 31, 2015 03:11
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occupy Tunisia worked better, lets do it that way next time:
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"We were infiltrated and undermined by cops, that's why our unfunded, unorganized, unrealistic camp out didnt magic away the largest concentration of political power to ever exist" -hell morons
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Foid One posted:Lol. OP is this true? Nope. It's 17 million people. No seriously check page 2 of the CBO report for more statiatics that i definitely don't obsessively follow
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Mar 31, 2015 03:19
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President Kucinich posted:Now someone post that hilarious clip of a bunch of incompetent protesting students getting ushered out of a cafeteria/library. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6KAg6qEGY
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Mar 31, 2015 03:20
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Boner Zone posted:ows at least moved the overton window slightly back to the left so that issues like income inequality can actually be discussed in our nation's political discourse which is more than dems or unions have accomplished in decades So organizing to the extent that could could actually change laws and institutions is bad. Dancing around in the park and starting a meme is good. Check. This "free your mind" poo poo, or even worse the goony "its all bullshit, man" cop out, is why there is no left in North America. Euros still do all the union/commie/mass strike stuff so the government is still a least a tiny bit scared of them. The only North Americans willing to get organized are the kind if meatheads who become cops or soldiers. Sorry hippies, eat riot club.
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Mar 31, 2015 03:25
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im the unrelated video from 2009
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etalian posted:even better the whole concept was appropriated from arabs. they love big wall street banks lol
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etalian posted:even better the whole concept was appropriated from arabs. this but ironically
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Stoic Commie posted:this but ironically even better they appropriated the concept from arabs, while lacking the level of courage, balls and successfully marshaling people from all groups of society as seen in arab spring. Also OWS didn't have any kickass Rome Total War mega-battles like in Arab Spring.
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etalian posted:even better they appropriated the concept from arabs lol
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The one in Madison became a homeless camp, then the local government argued what to do with it. Later Scott Walker was re-elected 3 or 4 times.
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Arian_Samurai posted:The one in Madison became a homeless camp, then the local government argued what to do with it. don't vote for a corrupt government, just hand wiggle your problems away.
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I remember this. There was also stuff like this going around with the Dems.  Who can forget that the whole OWS movement was the evolved form of the Tea Party? Bifner McDoogle posted:Nope. I guess knocking five million people off their original healthcare plans, restricting access to the number of available doctors/plans, and implementing progressively higher penalties to coerce people to sign up, does pay off. 
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libruls seem to have infinite amount of spare money to spend on kickstarters and patreons, seems like people should have been able to fund some grassroots organizing or candidates. Oh but voting never changes anything man.... thats why the cohort with the largest voter turnout gets all of their political wishes respected by both parties and the cohorts with the lowest turnout are ignored by both parties and ridiculed in the media. because its way too hard when you are unemployed and smoke weed all the time to go to the polls unless its something about getting to smoke more weed
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Unnngh that's the stuff. Much disorganization. Great consensus. "Excuse me, brutality here."
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boom boom boom posted:Ten million people in America have health insurance right now because of Obamacare, you stupid rear end in a top hat. i'll give you obamacare as the dems greatest accomplishment in decades and we're lucky to have it, and yet it's an absolutely lovely excuse for healthcare reform that cements corporate welfare in the healthcare industry into place while still managing to leave 30 million uninsured the democratic party has been a loving joke for a long time now, it's followed the republicans of all people so far to the right that it's greatest accomplishment is getting heritage foundation reform considered some kind of great achievement of leftism thank gently caress for all the stupid hippies exerting some kind of pressure on the democratic party from the left because we all know drat well if some kind of popular movement didn't show up at least for a while to express these views that the dems would be completely ignoring them and going full throttle towards implementing even more GOP positions of yesteryear
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President Kucinich posted:Unnngh that's the stuff. lmao
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Hillary '16 we can do it you guys I know we can
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OWS was pretty loving useless overall, but I will give credit where it's due. Even a dumb tent city full of rape and vandalism is better than just sitting at a computer tweeting and 'signal boosting' the SJW outrage of the week.
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I didn't pay much attention to it at the time because lol but was the image in their op the logo? Because if so that bull isn't even in Wall Street
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jackyl posted:I didn't pay much attention to it at the time because lol but was the image in their op the logo? Because if so that bull isn't even in Wall Street That was the image ran in Adbusters Magazine that started the Occupy movement.
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