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zoux posted:So like, they haven't talked about this Phoenix Egg in mainline X-books at all huh? No. Because Bendis. Theoretically it'll all get set up by Uncanny #600 but I'm not holding my breath. zoux posted:It seems kind of odd to me that Scott Summers was on the lifeboat list, unless that was a last minute audible by Manifold. That was definitely an audible. Guy With Phoenix Powers would be pretty handy to have onboard your make-a-new-universe crew.
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May 6, 2015 17:45
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Lurdiak posted:I wonder if the writers know black panthers aren't a real animal. Considering I'm pretty sure that was a Bast reference, I'm not certain it matters.
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May 13, 2015 22:12
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Alien Rope Burn posted:His Fantastic Four was solid for it from what I recall, mainly in regards to Mr. Fantastic. Avengers... I'm sure there had to be some in the year or so I read, but damned if I can recall any. Missed the "Cannonball and Sunspot go to the casino with AIM" issue, then?
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May 17, 2015 03:11
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Horrible Taste posted:Only Jamie is using his Ultimate design. Brian is wearing his costume from Captain Britain & MI-13, Betsy is wearing her Captain Britain costume from the Alan Davis run and Meggan never even appeared in an Ultimate book. I suspect that looking for one-to-one comparisons between Secret Wars characters and Marvel Universe characters is ultimately going to prove futile; Battleworld is a patchwork universe built by Doom, and I'd expect it to be populated largely by other-dimensional analogues of various characters. Trying to say "Oh, this is Ultimate Jamie" or "this is 616 Jean" or whatever is always going to be a fool's errand.
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May 17, 2015 04:36
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TNG posted:I'm a believer in the idea that if you introduce an element in the story, that element should serve the story it's a part of. I don't know that I agree, honestly. Not every gun in a story has to be Chekov's Gun; sometimes, especially in a serial, ongoing, someone-will-be-writing-this-book-when-I'm-gone medium like comics, you can get away with introducing stuff that will broaden the palette of available options for later stories, or even just flesh out your universe and add interesting details, without it needing to all get tied up in a big bow at the end. Because it's comics. There is never a big bow at the end because there is never an end. And really, I don't see that as an inherent weakness. It must be admitted, however, that I'm old; Claremont's heyday was the era in which I was introduced to comics. Dangling plot threads all over the place is normal, to me; I can always figure "well, when someone comes up with a cool enough story it'll get picked up." And that's been a worthwhile thought to think more often than not. This notion that comic stories must be self-contained and intricately orchestrated is a relatively recent innovation, and I'm not sure if it's inherently an improvement. I'm not sure if it's not, either, mind you. TNG posted:What was the ultimate point of the New Universe stuff? Incursions are bad and everything is messed up. Okay, fine. But what did Nightmask and Starbrand end up doing for the story in and of itself? Speak some technobabble and be used as a nuke in Infinity and New Avengers #32. They were sorta just there. They spent a lot of time on Sol's Hammer and really only got screen time in other comics. The New Universe stuff was essentially a callback to Warren Ellis' newuniversal; a substantial number of story elements were straight out of that project, from the Star Brand and Nightmask and whatnot being a sort of cosmological constant that infused an archetypal 'carrier' in each discrete universe to the bleed between universes and the superstructure that supported it to the Builders themselves were all newuniversal-oriented. In effect, they served a couple of functions - they were a concrete thematic reference to the notion of "the multiverse is going to poo poo" that served as the underpinning of Hickman's whole run, and they served to set up Infinity, which was positioned as the Builders trying to remedy the fault in the supersystem by destroying Earths. All of the newuniversal-inspired elements were, in effect, a symptom of the collapsing multiverse that has been the engine of the entire storyline.
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May 17, 2015 07:36
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Phenotype posted:What was everyone mad at Tony for, enough that they didn't want him in the life raft, and Cap's final wish was to beat him to death? I didn't think he was any more or less responsible for the actions of the Illuminati than anyone else. The Illuminati was, from the very beginning when Bendis introduced it, Tony's idea. He formed it, he kept it going, and he'd always been a driving force behind it. Cap's rage at Tony, though, had a lot less to do with the Illuminati's actions and a lot more to do with "you were my friend and you lied to me and betrayed me and helped wipe my brain." Being lied to by a brother hurts more than being lied to by a casual acquaintance.
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May 19, 2015 02:02
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Phenotype posted:I don't understand why the other Illuminati members were shunning him, though. Two reasons, really. At first, SIXIS happened and Tony stayed "inverted," meaning he's been kind of a douche; then, secondly, once they reconciled with Cap they realized that if they were going to keep Cap from coming after them anymore, they'd have to keep Tony out of the picture.
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May 19, 2015 03:03
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Lurdiak posted:What saddens me is that it's very well known that everyone who comes to Marvel has a Dr. Strange pitch, to the point that they've been known to preface interviews with writers with "Please no Dr. Strange pitch". Doing the character justice doesn't sell, apparently. The refrain has always been, essentially, "Everyone wants to write Doctor Strange, and no one wants to buy Doctor Strange." It's sad. 
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May 19, 2015 09:40
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Wolpertinger posted:Nah I meant like, what the justification, if any, he gave to all his loyal worshippers why they have a million alternate clones of themselves around. They're all in different regions, and Doom forbids people to cross regions. So long as the Frank Castle of Arcadia never meets the Frank Castle of Greenland or whatever, then who cares if there are multiples?
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May 21, 2015 09:01
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Holy poo poo you guys M.O.D.O.K. Assassin was batshit crazy awesome in the greatest possible way.
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May 27, 2015 17:06
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zoux posted:Yeah I was confused because I'm reading the Soule Inhumans run six months behind on MU, so I'm not current and I thought that Edward G. Ghostrider was supposed to be an Inhuman for a bit. It looks like the Inhumans in Attilan Rising are crossing from Region to Region in direct defiance of Doom's law; they're probably well aware of the "this place has duplicates from alternate realities" nature of Battleworld.
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May 28, 2015 19:39
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Everyone needs to be reading Infinity Gauntlet. The best part is that the dog is apparently a natural Nova. "I don't think the dog can be a-- oh, I guess he can." "We'll never get the dog to fly-- oh, no, there he goes." "Okay, kids, I know you can't fight but we have to-- oh man, look at that dog go."
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Jun 25, 2015 18:52
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:In Planet Hulk #2 Doc Green references a Captain America that was a mutant. I can't think of any mutant ever being Cap in 616 continuity, so what's he referring to? Recall that most of what we're seeing on Battleworld specifically isn't 616 continuity; if there was a mutant cap anywhere at any time in any universe that could be the reference. There must've been one in some What If...? or something, sometime, right?
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Jun 27, 2015 02:10
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Lurdiak posted:God drat it, they didn't retcon that away or just ignore it? loving Nick Spencer. Cloak and Dagger switched power sets like every other arc in their original ongoing. It's nothing new.
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Jul 3, 2015 18:59
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I know we've moved on, but I don't see how anyone can dislike Larry Hama's Wolverine run. That's the run that had a story involving time-traveling back to the Spanish Civil War to fight alongside Puck and Ernest Hemingway. I mean, that's awesome.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:16
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Those were the good times. "Were?"
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Aug 13, 2015 07:03
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zoux posted:I assume it's the non evil version of the Siege Perilous. That transported you places but occassionally could turn you into a statuesque female Asian ninja. The Siege Perilous wasn't originally a transport device; it was a Rebirth McGuffin. You'd go through it and you'd get a new life, and would (at least until plot demanded it) not remember your old one. Roma put it in the hands of the X-Men, who used it to escape from the Reavers; Havok ended up a Genoshan Magistrate, Colossus was a New York-based artist (and was going by 'Peter' instead of 'Piotr;' it was implied that he didn't even know Russian until his old memories jolted back to him); Rogue ended up in the Savage Land, somehow separated from the Ms. Marvel personality she'd absorbed way back when, fought with her, won, and kept her flight/strength/invulnerability but lost Carol Danvers' personality imprint, then hung with Magneto for a bit; Dazzler went back to being a singer with no memories of her powers; Psylocke wound up in Hong Kong and That Whole Mess (tm) started up. It was also responsible for merging Nimrod and Master Mold into Bastion, back when. Also, it was never evil, really; I'm not sure where you get that idea. Even when it was used by Kilgore's Hellfire Academy as their 'detention,' it didn't spit people out 'evil,' IIRC; it spit them out blank, more amenable to the Academy's indoctrination. The Siege Courageous was a transport device used by the Phoenix Five, and was clearly tech-based instead of magic-based, but really nothing about it has been revealed; it's probably not the Siege Courageous we're seeing in Secret Wars, which is almost definitely magical (and thus in Strange's purview) and probably more like the Siege Perilous than anything. If I had to bet I'd say it also gives people that pass through it a 'new life,' probably a more directly heroic one.
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Oct 8, 2015 03:23
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zoux posted:I think it's evil because it's called the Siege Perilous. Then you, unlike Chris Claremont, are not familiar with King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. (The Siege Perilous is a reference to one of the chairs around the Round Table, that was fated to be the last seat occupied by a Round Table Knight; Sir Galahad was the one to finally claim it)
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Oct 8, 2015 03:41
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zoux posted:Well I'd never sit in a chair called that That's why you'll never find the Holy Grail, zoux. 
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Oct 8, 2015 03:58
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Yeah, it's important to note that Hickman walked into the Marvel offices with a chart detailing an issue-by-issue breakdown of his entire FF run before he got the FF run. The dude plans poo poo out in advance. Like, when Chris Claremont picked up a three-year old plot thread I would say to myself "Hey, cool, Claremont realized it was a good time to get around to that old thread, cool. He must have finally come up with an ending." When Hickman does it, I feel like it's more like "Hey, cool, Hickman picked up on that old thread, I was wondering when he'd get to it - but I knew he would because if he didn't have an ending in mind he wouldn't have put the thread in in the first place."
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Dec 10, 2015 07:00
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twistedmentat posted:Just follows the major players going "Lyiiiiiiiinnnnnngggg!" all the time. Siege != Saga. Though that would be pretty cool too. 
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Dec 19, 2015 01:49
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While I loved the whole drat thing, I think my favorite part of Secret Wars is the explanation for how Miles Morales gets transplanted into the 616 universe. Because he gave the Molecule Man a cheeseburger.
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Caper posted:That was awesome. Especially because he also threw in resurrecting his dead mom. Dude must've been really starving. First thing Owen Reese asks of everyone who comes to visit him is "Hey, didja bring me some snacks?" And Miles Morales is the only character in the entire story who does. That's worth a Mom-Resurrection, I'd say.
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Jan 14, 2016 04:31
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SynthOrange posted:Apparently he tried to suicide bomb the inhumans. Yeah, we haven't seen whatever the Horrible Thing Cyclops Did was yet, but it was directed against the Inhumans and it musta been pretty bad.
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Jan 14, 2016 05:16
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Squizzle posted:Hickman's whole saga, most especially the Fantastic Four and Avengers bits, built to the Fantastic Four breaking up so that the Richards family can be explorer-gods while Ben goes to space and Johnny makes out with his ex's mom. That's the longform dissolution of the FF. His ex's sister. Which is still terrible, but there's a limit to even Johnny Storm's skeeziness.
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Head slightly tilted to one side has eyes that are not perfectly level with the horizon, film at 11.
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