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Abe Froman posted:What's Obama's excuse for being even more of a failure? I think he's a pretty okay and very smart man who is under the influence of some cartoonishly evil people. Also he is setting himself up for mega Wall Street bux post-Presidency, ala Bill Clinton.
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Moridin920 posted:the president isn't the supreme dictate and for the most part congress has been completely and utterly useless and filled with tea party assholes blocking every single piece of decent legislation? explain TPP
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Moridin920 posted:ah well that's just the corporate interests who run america doing their thing, lol if you think a GOP president wouldn't also have TPP going at this very moment Yeah a GOP President definitely would be a huge fan of the TPP, and hard-right GOPers are exactly who are supporting the President on this. Is this something that should be expected of a Democratic President? And if so, what's the point of supporting Democrats? Gay marriage?
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May 6, 2015 16:34
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Abe Froman posted:Hilarious that people defend this poo poo president. X1000000000000000000
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May 6, 2015 16:35
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Moridin920 posted:Bush was definitely worse than Obama. Their policy is the same
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May 6, 2015 16:46
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Zeno-25 posted:Dems had 60 votes in the Senate for two weeks thanks to Kennedy dying and the Minnesota GOP contesting Franken's win for months Actually it was 72 days. Imagine the ruined hellscape that America would become if the Republicans had 59 seats in the Senate, the White House, and a majority in the House for any period of time. Democrats get that for years and what do we have to show for it? Bob Doles's 1996 health care plan and a pile of excuses. And scorn for the disappointed left.
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May 6, 2015 16:51
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Moridin920 posted:right except at least Obama doesn't embarrass me every time he talks to someone on TV Oh OK, that 's definitely worth completely surrendering the executive branch and all of the policy it creates to Wall Street and business interests. I'm sure you'll love Hillary's administration.
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May 6, 2015 16:53
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Moridin920 posted:idk why goons have this weird thing where all decisions are binary. Just because I don't think Obama is as bad as Bush doesn't suddenly mean I love him. He is bad, just not as bad as the person who had Colin Powell lying in front of the UN to justify a war in a country that had nothing to do with anything while simultaneously defunding education and giving tax breaks to billionaires. Obama didn't even bother to have Colin Powell lie to us, he just continued all that same poo poo and told us to deal with it. Moridin920 posted:the president isn't the supreme dictate and for the most part congress has been completely and utterly useless and filled with tea party assholes blocking every single piece of decent legislation? This sounds like some poo poo that you hear all the time from Obama defenders. The line "Well the President isn't a dictator you silly liberal" is usually what comes before some bullshit explanation of how Obama just had to make the Bush millionaire tax cuts permanent, and has to commit to endless war in the middle east, and has no control over his DOJ that ranked medical marijuana as a higher enforcement priority than the fraud that collapsed our economy. It's a formula at this point, and it always starts with pretending that liberal expectations are/were too high. It's also the Hillary supporters mantra so forgive me if I mistook you for one.
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