Today is the Anniversary of Elliot Rodger's Isla Vista Killings

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It's the anniversary of the Isla Vista Killings

Original thread from last year: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3637102&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post430071883

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-one-year-later-candlelight-vigil-to-mark-isla-vista-shootings-20150523-story.html

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A candlelight vigil and memorial walk are planned Saturday night in Isla Vista -- one year after a young man embarked on a killing spree that left six UC Santa Barbara students dead and several more injured before taking his own life.

The university is hosting the memorial to honor those killed and injured in the attack by gunman Elliot Rodger, 22, who authorities described as a troubled and lonely man who spent nearly two years planning his deadly rampage.

The mother of one of his victims, George Chen, 19, who was a friend of Rodger's roommates, is scheduled to speak at the event that is being held at 7:30 p.m. at People's Park in Isla Vista.

In a written statement, Kelly Wang recalled how she did not get to hear Chen's voice this past Mother's Day.

"It breaks my heart when I think of him," she wrote. "My sweet boy is gone forever, without a sign or warning, without having a chance to say goodbye."

On May 23, 2014, Rodger, stabbed to death his two roommates, and Chen, in their apartment. Three hours later, he went on a shooting rampage, killing three more and wounding 14, according to a nine-month investigation by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department.

The Casualties:

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Deaths in apartment stabbings
George Chen (19)
Cheng Yuan "James" Hong (20)
Weihan "David" Wang (20)

Deaths from gunshots
Katherine Breann Cooper (22)�shot near sorority house
Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez (20)�shot inside deli
Veronika Elizabeth Weiss (19)�shot near sorority house

Wounded and injured
Megan Carloto (22) - shot on bicycle
Antoine Cherchian (25) - shot multiple times
Keith Cheung (21) - struck on bicycle by Rodger's car
Bianca de Kock (20) - shot near sorority house
Patrick Eggert (19) 0 struck on bicycle by Rodger's car
Jin Fu - struck by Rodger's car
Victor Garcia - struck by Rodger's car
Elliot Gee - struck on skateboard by Rodger's car
Christopher Hoang - shot multiple times
Mitchell Lyubarsky (21) - struck by Rodger's car
Bailey Maples - shot in the arm
Nick Pasichuke (19) struck on skateboard by Rodger's car
Matthew Smith - shot multiple times
Aaron Zaglin (22) - shot in the arm

Salon updates us on how things have been handled since the massacre

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/22/we_fostered_something_chaotic_and_irresponsible_elliot_rodger_isla_vista_the_echoes_of_a_tragedy/

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�We fostered something chaotic and irresponsible�: Elliot Rodger, Isla Vista & the echoes of a tragedy

The night after the shootings, a colleague and I went to a candlelight vigil in Isla Vista. We walked our candles the several blocks from the campus quad past the Isla Vista Deli where Christopher Michaels-Martinez had lost his life the day before. The windows were shot out; flowers, pictures, and messages covered the ground, mourning a young man who had been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Students came up to a microphone one-by-one in Anisq�Oyo� Park to verbalize what was weighing on them. But already the event had turned in to a call for community, which, to my colleague and me, seemed a precipitous call to move forward, almost insensitive to the seven who had died just hours before.

Mel Weisberger, a sophomore film and media studies major, remembers a temporary change immediately following the shootings. �People were being much nicer to each other, the streets were quieter, and there was an overall feeling that everyone just wanted peace,� she said. �A few weeks passed and we all went home for summer vacation. When I returned in the fall, I realized that for a lot of people, it became fashionable to care.�

Literature major Korrin Alpers, also a sophomore, remembers the hashtag activism born of the massacre. �The hopeful slogan that came out of this event was �IV Strong,�� she wrote me. �The tragedy is that we lack ownership�we blame people from out of town, the people who throw wild parties, Greek life, mental illnesses, white privilege, misogyny. And yes, these are all contributing factors to the brokenness in our community, but a large part is our own. Of course, we did not push this young man to open fire in our town. But we did foster something chaotic and irresponsible that for some reason encouraged a sense of entitlement to sex.�

Over my eight years at UCSB as a student and then a teacher, I watched the decline of female safety and agency as the campus culture grew more and more predatory. A female student of mine said she was terrified to walk alone to class in broad daylight. Two others came to my office hours rattled and teary after having been harassed; several were yelled at by police and college men for dressing provocatively. One young woman had PTSD from having been sexually assaulted more than once at college parties, and because of triggers couldn�t read the Faulkner novel I assigned.

After the shooting, the language of grief from the campus administration was typical: a senseless tragedy, young lives taken too soon, etc. The national conversations quickly turned political as advocates for gun control, and those opposed to misogyny and rape culture, used the event to make their points. The university hosted a memorial service-turned-rally.

But what has changed on the ground? Isla Vista, an unincorporated community, doesn�t belong to either the city or the university, and therefore can�t be governed or regulated by either. Kum-Kum Bhavnani, chair of UCSB�s Academic Senate, said the university�s efforts to protect its students is mainly up to its good will. �UC Santa Barbara has for many years voluntarily contributed significant resources (several million dollars annually) to the County for safety efforts in Isla Vista, and contributed additional resources to add more lights, sidewalks and recently a fence along the bluff. The safety of our students is our highest priority, including in Isla Vista, where the university�s influence is limited.�

UC President Janet Napolitano�s Task Force includes plans for better streetlights and increased campus police presence. The federal Department of Education allocated $570,000, notably funding the Campus Advocacy Resources & Education (CARE) program, which advocates for sexual assault victims and educates the community about sexual violence.

UCSB just closed down its third fraternity this school year, after sexual assault allegations arose against Nu Alpha Kappa (the other two were shut down for unsafe education practices (the other two were shut down for unspecified reasons and alcohol hazing, respectively). UCSB additionally placed a sorority on interim suspension. The university had not closed a Greek chapter in the previous two years, so three (possibly four) closures in a year since the shootings may signal the university�s lower tolerance for dangerous and reckless student activities.

In October, the state of California passed a bill allowing families and friends of disturbed people to seek a restraining order to ensure they don�t buy a gun. The legislation was very publicly supported by Richard Martinez, father of the student shot near Isla Vista Deli, and certainly precipitated by the fact that police performed a wellness check to Rodger�s apartment in Isla Vista less than a month before his rampage (at the request of his concerned family). The police, however, did not enter Rodger�s apartment to perform an actual search, as he appeared coherent and polite.

Despite such efforts, some students, faculty, and staff do not see visible evidence that Isla Vista is any safer, and claim that the administration�s rhetoric sounds hollow. Weisberger says she feels no safer now in Isla Vista than she did before Rodger killed six of her schoolmates. �When people talk about what happened, they label Rodger as �crazy� and �an extremist,� which he was; but what people don�t talk about is the fact that on a less extreme level, that mentality still exists in some people in Isla Vista. These are the people who try to stop me on my bike and push me down, the people who catcall me from their balconies, and the people who follow me and my friends as we walk home. Now, when I go out on weekends, I stuff all of my hair into my hood and try my best to look like a boy so that no one tries to knock me off my bike again.�

For those of you who have forgotten, The Supreme Gentlemen's Manifesto and effective autobiography is here:

http://abclocal.go.com/three/kabc/kabc/My-Twisted-World.pdf

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My orchestration of the Day of Retribution is my attempt to do everything, in my power, to destroy
everything I cannot have. All of those beautiful girls I�ve desired so much in my life, but can never have
because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy. All of those popular people who live hedonistic lives
of pleasure, I will destroy, because they never accepted me as one of them. I will kill them all and make
them suffer, just as they have made me suffer. It is only fair.

Why do things have to be this way? I�m sure that is the question everyone will be asking after the Day
of Retribution is over. They will all be asking why. Indeed, why? That is the question I�ve had for
everyone throughout all my years of suffering. Why was I condemned to live a life of misery and
worthlessness while other men were able to experience the pleasures of sex and love with women?
Why do things have to be this way? I ask all of you.

All I ever wanted was to love women, and in turn to be loved by them back. Their behavior towards
me has only earned my hatred, and rightfully so! I am the true victim in all of this. I am the good guy.
Humanity struck at me first by condemning me to experience so much suffering. I didn�t ask for this. I
didn�t want this. I didn�t start this war� I wasn�t the one who struck first� But I will finish it by striking
back. I will punish everyone. And it will be beautiful. Finally, at long last, I can show the world my true
worth.

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Lichy posted:

good thing that online dating now exists so even the worst and smelliest goons have a nonzero chance of getting laid with a disgusting goonette instead of shooting peeps

Online dating's been around for a while.

It hasn't really helped.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 05:45

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Lichy posted:

it's more accessible and acceptable now tho

Well I have to admit, searching through his manifesto, he mentions playing online games a lot but it doesn't appear he ever tried online dating.

I guess if he had just opened a tinder account, this horror could have been avoided.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 05:53

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

The original was a good thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3637102&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#post430071883

I'd advise just reading that.

That thread was awesome, putting it in the op.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 05:54

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Nooner posted:

I know they say you aren't supposed to remember people like him because that is what they want, but on the other hand I think it is very good to remember Elliot Rodgers.

Remember him and laugh forever at how pathetic this piece of poo poo was. Let every other like him know we will remember you and we will mock you forever in death as you deserved in life you disgusting piece of poo poo

--real Nooner out; back to poo poo posting after this

If there's an afterlife, I'd wager part of Rodger's eternal punishment is to read stuff on the internet about how much people are just laughing at him.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 06:17

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Cursed Lumberjack posted:

i really think that if anything stories like this are a clear sign that bullies should redouble their efforts

if we get nicer to losers, it just pushes back the bar of what counts as "mean" and eventually telling someone that you like their shirt is a grave insult because you didnt like literally jizz upon seeing their shirt and then you still have rampages

if we can just beat them into submission and break their will we'll never have to deal with episodes like this again

#bullyharder

Has there been any spree-killings caused by bullying? Like everyone I can think of had nothing to do with bullying and was the result of mental illness / desire for attention / bullshit ideology, but nothing with bullying.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 06:30

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Remember when he was convinced that winning the lottery was his destiny and went on a megalomaniac rant when he didn't win? No joke, Hitler did the exact same thing when he was slumming it up during his Vienna days.

Yes

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My father gave me a book called The Secret after I had dinner at his house in February. He said it will
help me develop a positive attitude. The book explained the fundamentals of a concept known as the
Law of Attraction. I had never heard or read anything quite like this before, and I was intrigued. The
theory stated that one�s thoughts were connected to a universal force that can shape the future of
reality. Being one who always loved fantasy and magic, and who always wished that such things were
real, I was swept up in a temporary wave of enthusiasm over this book. The prospect that I could change
my future just by visualizing in my mind the life I wanted filled me with a surge of hope that my life
could turn out happy. The idea was ridiculous, of course, but the world is such a ridiculous place already
that I figured I might as well give it a try. In addition, I was so desperate for something to live for that I
wanted to believe in the Law of Attraction, even if it was proven to me that it wasn�t real.

Once I finished reading it, I drove all the way to Point Dume in Malibu and climbed out to the cliffs at
the very edge. It was a windy day, and I could see the ocean roiling below me. As night fell, I looked out
to the stars and proclaimed to the universe everything I wanted in life. I proclaimed how I wanted to be
a millionaire, so I could live a luxurious life and finally be able to attract the beautiful girls I covet so
much. I wished to make up for the years of youth that I wasted in bleak loneliness, and by doing so I
would get revenge on everyone who thought they were better than me, just by becoming better than
them through the accumulation of wealth. I believed that the only way for me to attain this wealth at
the time was to win the Lottery, and that is what I visualized doing.

I then descended the clifftop on Point Dume and walked along the Malibu ocean, just like I did a
couple of months previously at the beach house. I saw a couple walking along the shore ahead of me;
the man looked to be in his late 20�s or early 30�s, and the girl he was walking with looked like a
supermodel. I assumed he was very rich and owned a nice house in Malibu. The two of them were
walking hand in hand, and I saw him subtly place his hand on her rear end every now and then. He was living
the life. He was in heaven. I was envious, but since the man was older than me, it also gave me a twinge
of hope, especially after my proclamation to the universe at the clifftop. If I become a multi-millionaire, I
would be able to walk on the beach with a beautiful girlfriend too, and my life would be complete. That
was what I wanted. That was what I wished for in my future. As I�ve always believed, I am destined for
great things. Becoming a multi-millionaire at a young age is what I am meant for.

My faith was soon broken, as I bought a few Megamillions Lottery tickets and visualized myself being
the winner. I usually visualized it by meditating on the rooftop of my mother�s apartment right at the
time of the drawing. A part of me knew it was impossible to will the universe to make me the winner
just by wishing for it on a rooftop, but I was so desperate that I wanted to believe I could. I wanted to
believe I had the POWER to do it. After failing to win when the jackpot reset because someone else won,
I lost all faith in that book, and I almost ripped it apart in frustration.

I desperately pondered if there was some other way I could make millions of dollars at my age, but I
came up with nothing. I realized that my miserable, lonely virgin life was going to continue, and my only
hope was to give Santa Barbara a try.

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Jack Gladney posted:

Use the Force, Roger.

Win the lottery or do not, there is no try.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 08:40

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Straker posted:

nope, just NO WAY to get rich when you have prominent, rich parents, not even just by working hard for a little bit and being a doctor/lawyer like all other shiftless offspring of disgusting rich societal parasites

Or say your mom is a personal friend of George loving Lucas

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Mother was still friends with George Lucas, so we got invites to the red carpet premiere of Star Wars
Episode 1. I always was and always will be a huge Star Wars fan. I had already seen the original trilogy
many times, and I considered myself very lucky to be able to go to the premiere of the new Star Wars
movie.

It was an absolutely astonishing experience. It was just me and my mother � Georgia was too young,
so she stayed at home with a babysitter. Episode 1 is infamous for being the lesser movie of the three
new prequels, but as a kid I enjoyed it very much. Afterwards, I met some of the actors, and I shook the
hand of Jake Lloyd, the actor who played Anakin Skywalker in the movie.

*******

Mother took us to the premiere of Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith. As a huge Star Wars fan,
this was a big day for me. Episode 3 would complete the whole Star Wars saga. It was the most
anticipated movie. To be able to see it before everyone else made me feel special. I really liked the
character Anakin Skywalker, and I was amazed to see his epic transformation into Darth Vader on the
high quality big screen.

Finally having something to brag about, I told everyone at school the next day that I went to the
premiere because my mother is friends with George Lucas. The problem was that most Eighth Graders
thought of Star Wars as being a �nerdy� interest, and they didn�t really care. I was left frustrated and
disappointed by their reaction.

Edit: Huh, didn't notice before that he actually liked Anakin Skywalker from Episode 3. As in whiny, pretty boy, Anakin who goes out and murders all the Jedi and a room full of children for his selfish angst bullshit.

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killmeimmafailure posted:

Man I just feel bad for the parents. Of everyone involved with it, no doubt. But his in particular. Who knows if they are/were decent people, but they're hosed for life now. It's just sad, man.

Cause you know at some point they were like, "no, yeah we did an alright job, he'll end up okay". gently caress man. Bums me out for days

Well Barbara Walters did an interview with his dad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnT0CMwBrWs

# ¿ May 24, 2015 08:58

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Baudolino posted:

What we need now is bitter virgin feminist woman doing the same thing to a frat house. It`s important to balance things out.

There are too few women spree killers and serial killers. It's a glass ceiling that needs to be broken.

# ¿ May 24, 2015 12:51

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To be fair, he tried so hard

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Nothing came out of my desperate outings in Santa Barbara during the last months of 2013. Girls still
didn�t show any interest in me. I drove to SBCC a lot, even though I was only signed up for online classes.
While there, I saw other boys who had inferior cars driving around with hot girls in their passenger
seats. I have a BMW and never had any hot girl in my passenger seat. Not once. It only made me fume
with rage. Santa Barbara was such a beautiful town, but I could go nowhere without being insulted by
my enemies. The mere sight of them enjoying their happy lives was an insult to me, because I deserve it
more than them.

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waitwhatno posted:

i would pay money to see a film adaptation of his manifest. Would need artsy and surreal undertones, but it could work.

make it about broader themes like human arrogance, feeling of entitlement and obsession. We should see small parts of our own life's reflected in elliots deranged adventures. Christian bale as Elliot for the surreal touch.

I can't imagine any movie or show based on his manifest being anything but a comedy, a very black and dark comedy, but still a comedy.

Like what you'd have to do is have each episode be Elliot's plan to either "get laid" or "achieve a goal in the cause of getting laid" or "find solace in WoW", then just have the looming knowledge that eventually the "Day of Retribution" shall come.

# ¿ May 25, 2015 03:57

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Gazpacho posted:

i kinda liked it better when the killdozer guy was gbs's ironic hero tbh, at least there wasn't the parade of mental health fadsters trying to diagnose him

At least he had an arguably legit cause to fight for, didn't actually kill anyone, and went about it in the most awesome and metal way he could. When he did gently caress up, it was understandable that he didn't think that the floor of the cheap shopping center would cave in and stop Killdozer.

Elliot worked really hard on his massacre and had huge goals set up for it, and even that was marred by tons of failures and him just being pathetic. Like who the gently caress is defeated by a locked door?

# ¿ May 25, 2015 05:25

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ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

he didn't put any skill points into lockpicking and video game logic had so thoroughly penetrated his skull he just assumed that meant he would never open the door

etalian posted:

Yeah he waited outside a UCSB sorority but left when no one answered the door.

And fortunately he didn't have the brain power to realize he could have kicked down the door, gone in through a window, or just used his gun to shoot the lock off.

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Do It Once Right posted:

elliot rodgers had a micropenis. His little brother Jazz Rodgers has probably already lost his virginity using his normal-sized penis for sex with a girl.

Except there's no indication Roger's ever got that close to home base. In fact, i don't think he ever got close to first.

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Gazpacho posted:

speculating about all the ways he could have succeeded in killing more chicks is kinda creepy imo

To be fair , it is in the cause of talking about how pathetic he was and are talking about super obvious stuff. It's not like we are going on about how he should have made mustard gas to kill everyone in the sorority house or something.

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Elliot Rodger's: The Day of Reckoning
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Status: Plans continue to be frustrated

Everything was going so well. I had just slaughtered my roommates undetected and had just gotten to the hottest sorority on campus to begin my slaughter. I was feeling ecstatic, joyful, filled with the power of a god. I knocked on the door and had my gun ready, it would have been perfect. And then the unthinkable happened, they didn't open the door.

I knocked again, nothing.

And again, still nothing.

I waited hours there, as people walked by and watched me just wait there. It was so embarrassing but there wasn't anything I could do. I considered climbing through the window, but it would draw too much attention and my height prevented me from reaching it. As for just shooting the door down, I didn't know if my gun could do it before I attracted the police. The thought that the bullets might bounce back also struck me and I didn't want to further my embarrassment by shooting myself.

I knocked again, begging them to let me in. But nothing. Even on the day, my day of retribution, I was a social outcast. All I wanted to do was take vengeance for the injustice I had suffered and those mentally challenged females could not be bothered to let me, the perfect gentlemen, into their homes so I could slaughter them. This was suppose to be my day, the last day I intended to be alive on this earth, and they denied it to me. Even now, they could not be bothered to show me just a little bit of sympathy.

Defeated, I shot some random people on the street and went on to my next target, still hopeful that maybe, just maybe my Day of Retribution could be salvaged.

# ¿ May 25, 2015 07:03

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