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is singapore as cool as i think it is or not
yes super cool, nearly perfect
no there is a serf underclass
no bcause it is bad for the environment
hmm...not sure op
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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

destroying asses to make a utopian society


the whole place is basically the gated community concept applied to a city state

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

creates bland police state gated community and wonders why people don't want to gently caress anymore

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Gibson had a nice takedown of the place in a article called Disneyland with a death penalty

http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/1.04/gibson.html

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Dubai and saudi arabia are much worse.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

z0glin Warchief posted:

lol

car, career, condo, cash, and country club


Singapore is where all the rich white business owners live in Asia, that alone should be enough to help you make up your mind

Yeah lots of libertarian bay area techies fled there after whining about the evil of taxes in the United States.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

fascism is good, hth

it's no wonder why techies types were attracted to Singapore

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

would zizek like Singapore?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

e: Hm, then again, he also describes Taiwan as being exactly this sort of 'chaotic', when from everything goons say about Chinese countries, I've always had the impression that Taiwan is top-tier Chinese country.

Well in Taiwan they always have badass brawls in their parliament. Similar to South Korea, Taiwan was a military dictatorship for most of its post-WWII history.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Miltank posted:

'Capitalism with Asian values'

aka no wonder why their utopia ends up being so organized and boring with even basic vices like smoking being frowned upon.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


yeah plus the government categorizes gays by how macho they act.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

it's a great idea since it combines the most bland things about asians aka obsession with conformity/tradition with the obsession over banal material things.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

This might be honestly one of the worst criticisms about Singapore.

Yeah, there's the execution for drugs thing, but they're very upfront and consistent about that so to be honest, I look at that as more of a major annoyance (no drugs, bad weather, boring people) rather than some kind of huge humanitarian issue.

Let's feel good about a regime that keeps the trains running on time while having intense censorship, bans gays from jobs, social engineering on every level and is basically a one party capitalist dictatorship.

It's what you get by combining the Hive and Capitalist factions from alpha centauri.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

african dystopia is a bunch of child solders running around with AKs, Asian dystopia is getting caned on the rear end for smoking

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

It's basically a socialist police state in which people trade complete deference the government in exchange for free housing, medical care and other benefits.

It's using the carrot approach instead of the stick create a completely subservient society.

If anything it has lots in common with the pristine clean world of Mirrors Edge.

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