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massive spider posted:One of mulholland drives best scenes is a jump scare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5WC0TW_0qc
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The best jump scares are the ones without any sort of overt acknowledgement (i.e. the cliche DUN DUUUUUUUN cue). Best example I've seen recently is at the end of Final Prayer when the sphincter flexes. Neither of the characters present seem to notice it and it takes them another minute or two to figure out what's going on.
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Jul 5, 2015 01:11
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And what's the deal with rollercoasters? Who were the ad wizards who came up with that? Jump scares are fine. They have saved many a bad horror movie from being genuinely unwatchable.
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Jul 5, 2015 04:52
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What's wrong with double butter popcorn and keno
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Frostwerks posted:What's wrong with double butter popcorn and keno Keno is barely even a game.
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Jul 5, 2015 13:46
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Like literally any other film technique, they can be used effectively and poorly.
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Jul 5, 2015 20:39
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sticklefifer posted:Like literally any other film technique, they can be used effectively and poorly. I mean there's plenty of examples of cheap ways to instill dread, like playing creepy kid's music.
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Jul 5, 2015 20:41
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It was pretty hilarious that the Avengers 2 trailer even that (which is weird cause it would've been a lot more effective if they just had Ultron reciting the lines).
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Jul 5, 2015 20:51
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No joke, one of the only effective moments in Age of Ultron was when Ultron floats up behind Dr. Klaw and he looks like some sorta glowing slasher shark. Honestly if that movie had consisted entirely of cheap but competently deployed horror techniques, I would have enjoyed it a bunch more
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Jul 5, 2015 23:19
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Keno is barely even a game. For some reason I associate Keno with Devil Dinosaur. I have no idea what the gently caress Keno and a red T-Rex have to do with each other. This is legitimately bothering me.
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Jul 6, 2015 10:42
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massive spider posted:One of mulholland drives best scenes is a jump scare. becaouse its like what is that thing?!? no really
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Jul 6, 2015 11:32
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HP Hovercraft posted:Yeah that's probably the best "jump scare" ever. Even though there's so much buildup to it, it's unexpectedly terrifying. Lynch is the master of terrifying moments in general.  I'm a bit of a movie snob yet I was so bored by Inland Empire I turned it off. A friend of mine was shocked and told me that the end makes it worthwhile, she was right. Hoooly poo poo. Lost Highway, on the other hand, is the opposite of jump scares, he makes a creepy old man mortally terrifying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZowK0NAvig Robert Blake was the perfect person to have for that role.
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Jul 6, 2015 13:12
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The Woman in Black from a few years ago relied pretty heavily on jumpscares. Of course this was pretty well mixed with a sense of dread that lingered throughout the whole film, and you're kept on edge most of the time because you're expecting the movie to jump you again any moment now. It was far from a perfect film but it was probably the best horror experience I've had in a theater, 4 people walked out. The Bear Scare in Chernobyl Diaries was pretty awesome too. Things went downhill from there though.
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Jul 6, 2015 15:19
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Saying all jump scares are bad is a little ridiculous, it's one of many horror filmmaking techniques and requires a deft director to take advantage of it. A crappy jump scare is a cheap trick that simply startles you whereas a good jump scare is the release of tension from building dread. The director needs to unconsciously give the viewer the sense that something is wrong (often camera angles are enough) and then build on that sense from there, then hit them with the scare unexpectedly. Lynch is great at this. Once you understand how a good jump scare is crafted it's really easy to spot, yet it often still works, which is kinda testament to its power.
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Jul 6, 2015 16:45
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Next thread: why do people say star wipes are good?
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flashy_mcflash posted:Next thread: why do people say star wipes are good? Because they just are. QED
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Jul 6, 2015 18:51
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I want a film to use star wipes for every cut. Not every transition between scenes, every CUT
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Jul 6, 2015 18:52
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I kinda miss transition wipes and fades and stuff.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I kinda miss transition wipes and fades and stuff. Give me a nice screen wipe or give me death.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I kinda miss transition wipes and fades and stuff. Hopefully the new Star Wars films keep up the tradition.
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Jul 6, 2015 19:25
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There should be a movie that only consists of jump scares and star wipes.
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Jul 6, 2015 19:29
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Why do people say toilets are good?
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Tenzarin posted:There should be a movie that only consists of jump scares and star wipes. That's the new cut of Age of Ultron that I'm working on
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Jul 6, 2015 19:32
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Who decided star wipes needs to be fast? I want a single star wipe that happens over a 2 hour movie. So as time goes on there's less and less screen.
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Jul 6, 2015 19:38
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computer parts posted:Hopefully the new Star Wars films keep up the tradition. Not even a question. I do miss the artfully done fade, it seems very sparing in use nowadays.
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Jul 6, 2015 19:41
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Best type of jump scare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_8h-AbQ98
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Jul 6, 2015 20:07
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Battlefield Earth uses wipes. And so did I after I saw that turd!
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Jul 6, 2015 21:48
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Groovelord Neato posted:Battlefield Earth uses wipes. And so did I after I saw that turd! When I bought Battlefield Earth on dvd for a dollar on amazon, they sent me a thank you letter.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:20
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Tenzarin posted:Who decided star wipes needs to be fast? I want a single star wipe that happens over a 2 hour movie. So as time goes on there's less and less screen. just go to any movie and close your eyes really slowly over the course of it.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:27
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Daveski posted:Best type of jump scare: Even videogames get in on that action. Cat scares are great. Another good one is Cat People: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoXo8eeEdo0 You're afraid a cat's gonna jump out, but instead a bus drives into frame suddenly and doesn't run over anybody. Cat People subverts all expectations.
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The bus jerking to a stop in Cat People is literally what they teach in school when it comes to horror movies about building tension for a startle like that.
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Jul 6, 2015 22:45
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Good jumpscares: - The hobo manwoman thing in Mullholand Drive - The demons in Jacob's Ladder - The spider in Enemy
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Not even a question. I do miss the artfully done fade, it seems very sparing in use nowadays. Just make the entire film look like your elementary school PowerPoint presentations.
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This has always been one of my favorite jump scares: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH8ynu0jRvY Sometimes I think it would work better without the sting, but I do like the way it sounds like a scream echoing through the halls and cuts to the statue before it fades.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Good jumpscares: A lot of the scariest parts in Jacob's Ladder for me I wouldn't define as jump scares, but moreso the longer takes where things gradually become more and more unsettling as time passes. The scene where Jacob is being wheeled through the hospital on the gurney is disturbing as hell. There's also one really quick take where Elizabeth Pena's character is yelling at Tim Robbins, and when she says "anybody home?" there's a flash cut only a few frames long of her in demonic makeup. That part genuinely creeps me out.
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Boo!
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Uncle Wemus posted:Boo! 
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The scene in the Descent when they turn the camera on and the monster thing is just chilling behind the main character (first time you see the monster) scared the ever loving gently caress out of me also i was getting jerked off so that ruined it.
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You got a couple of pages of decent conversation out of this, so mission accomplished I guess but I'm not sure what you're actually getting at. - Why do people say jumpscares are good? I don't think anyone says that. - You wonder why critics say that jumpscares are effective, then proceed to give an example of a jumpscare which you admit is effective. - You say jumpscares aren't good and then spend a paragraph describing a good jumpscare. Good jumpscares are good, bad ones are bad. Good movies can have jumpscares, bad movies can have jumpscares. ==== To add to the conversation. I was surprised how often the jumpscare was utilised in The Conjuring as I've seen this movie rank near the top a lot of "best horror movies of the millenium" lists and the movie is generally praised around these parts too. I thought the movie was going to do something quote different, but it rested on the Jumpscare for a lot of it's scares/horror elements.
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Ty1990 posted:The scene in the Descent when they turn the camera on and the monster thing is just chilling behind the main character (first time you see the monster) scared the ever loving gently caress out of me also i was getting jerked off so that ruined it. Ahahaha.
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