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why would you loan money to someone you know can't pay it? and then you think well now you owe me money you're my slave and they're like nope lol peace out and now you're all like wtf you lazy bum
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 01:44 |
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euro is gonna take a hit if they leave, either you pay directly or you pay via lower spending power of the euro either way you pay
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 01:53 |
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and that if the euro loses 10% of its value you just lost 10% of your wealth which is similar to just losing it outright
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 01:56 |
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how me a frog posted:There is difference between writing off your security deposit because your roomate is a slob, and agreeing to pay his rent indefinitely because you're scared the landlord will find out said roomate has been running a jenkem ring from his room given the fact that he won't even agree to stop doing that poo poo because he considers your demand terrorism. this would work if you also demanded that he clean it up himself instead of hitting up his parents for money to hire someone to clean (ie tax corporations)
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 01:57 |
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how me a frog posted:Lol if you think this is a possible scenario. http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=GBP&view=1Y
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 02:00 |
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 14:55 |
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NihilismNow posted:10% is nothing. QE made the euro drop by 30%+ already so another 10% to be rid of the Greeks forever is well worth it. in links I've provided in this thread, the euro has dropped more than 10% in value since this whole Greek crisis started. that was just an example, could be worse or not once the dust settles
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 22:32 |
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etalian posted:Maybe Greece could leave and join Putin's slav EU knockoff? that's what is probably going to happen. the kremlin would do anything to undermine the eu and nato, I wouldn't be surprised if they used greece as a poster boy for what benefits other troubled nations if they decide to follow suit. the real question is if this does happen, how much support is russia able to give Lufiron fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jul 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 22:58 |
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that maps ends with 2011 you got something a bit more updated?
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2015 23:13 |
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Omelette du Fromage posted:Have you ever done taxes yourself? You know all those things like mortgage interest, having kids, student loan interest that you deduct from your salary before calculating what you owe? That's you reporting less than you make holy gently caress no it's fine cuz that's mine I deserve it greeks are subhuman and don't
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 01:23 |
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Jonad posted:That's pretty disingenuous considering Picketty and everybody else knows the Germans will never actually see any of those 'profits' nor any of the money they loaned the Greeks. no country ever truly pays off its debt, germany included http://qz.com/339657/lets-just-admit-it-governments-never-really-pay-off-their-debts/ quote:Of course, it’s not reasonable to expect creditors to immediately forgive all Greece’s debts. Nor is it reasonable to expect Greeks to stand by while a disastrous economic policy is dictated to them. But the most unreasonable thing of all would be expecting to see the debt repaid in full.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 03:25 |
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Bishop posted:I like how greece's finance minister resigned as soon as the "no" vote he championed passed. Lol thanks for sticking it to the capitalist oppressors: I'm gonna go hide now while someone else figures out what to do both Tsipras and the creditors wanted him gone. The point of the no vote is not to pull out of the eu but to get better terms at the negotiations. With varoufakis there, there was no chance of that happening because the creditors hated him http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/07/business/international/yanis-varoufakis-abruptly-resigns-as-greek-finance-minister.html quote:Mr. Varoufakis said in a statement on his website that he was stepping down because Greece’s creditors had made it clear that they did not want to negotiate any further with him. but I have a feeling that the creditors are gonna want an even more austere and unworkable plan to punish Greece for the audacity of defaulting on its debts which will make their economy completely collapse Lufiron fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Jul 6, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 14:50 |
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Klyith posted:Imagine here a picture of a big mansion with huge acreage of private land in a desirable area. Off in one corner there are a couple cows. That's a real thing that extremely rich people do in the USA so they can declare themselves a farm and pay vastly lower agricultural land taxes. Taxes are broken everywhere, greece is not all that unique in having bad tax dodges they need to fix. I got you http://www.thenation.com/article/tax-day-farms-owned-rich-provide-massive-tax-shelter/ quote:For all those feeling the pinch this Tax Day, rest assured America’s wealthiest one percent have no idea what you’re going through. Not only have they shaved a projected collective $121 billion off their income taxes thanks to Bush’s tax cuts for the rich but, thanks to misuse of agricultural tax breaks, many will not end up paying their fair share of property taxes either. no it's fine cuz that's mine I deserve it greeks are subhuman and don't [/quote] Lufiron fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Because the Super rich manage to avoid paying taxes, let's have one third of the tax base not pay their taxes as well the point is that if there's a way for someone to dodge taxes they will and it will create huge fiscal problems. what's happening in Greece with their taxes could happen to us. What's to stop someone from growing a couple corn stalks and argue that their suburban lot is now farmland?
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 15:50 |
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:Maybe farms shouldnt get a lower tax rate. Maybe all human beings should live on subsistence agriculture and subsidizing farmers to feed an unsustainable amount of people liiving crammed in cities is wrong and bad. Maybe apples should be $100 each. Ever think of that? or maybe the ability to say what is farmland and what isn't should be based on assets and income. if most of your assets is related to the farm itself, and your income is primarily derived from it, hey you get a tax break if you're a billionaire computer guy, not so much
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 16:19 |
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ElGroucho posted:Can someone explain the reasoning behind all these countries becoming butt-buddies, tia so elites can avoid exchange rates as a cost of doing business
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 19:28 |
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how me a frog posted:Lol you think these evil capitalist can do whatever they want because they are greedy goblins who control the world but they can't kick Greece out because "there isn't a mechanism". loving lol. they don't want to kick Greece out, they want to shackle them forever and ever with this debt and act as a reminder to other countries as to what happens if you don't do what we say if they kick them out and somehow Greece rebounds without the eu and imf, what's to stop other countries from following suit? and austerity would be proven to be poo poo once and for all, since you have examples on both ends as to what happen (Iceland with their gently caress austerity stance and Greece with their forced austerity causing the final nail in their economic coffin)
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 22:06 |