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Onmi posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2wtBc6Ls4 Pretty awesome duel, although it gave more reasons to think that Jersey isn't as good as the Noble Arms 
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Pretty awesome duel, although it gave more reasons to think that Jersey isn't as good as the Noble Arms Nah the flaw in that was that I'd used Pot of Duality instead of a different better card in the deck. Jersey is still better than the Noble Arms.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:36
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So just to confirm because UTC is a weird thing to time people on. The "Come one, Come all, bring your decks to the Steam chat and duel people" thing is in 10 hours I'll go update the OP with that.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:39
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The flaw is that you aren't running other equip spells to capitalise on the Jersey. I know that its sub-optimal but its just so much fun when it works.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:40
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Senerio posted:Nah the flaw in that was that I'd used Pot of Duality instead of a different better card in the deck. How? The Jersey can't get past Destiny, and Mighty Slugger is only UA that can overcome Gwen in battle phase.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:51
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Yeah and Blue-Eyes White Dragon dies to Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:06
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:How? The Jersey can't get past Destiny, and Mighty Slugger is only UA that can overcome Gwen in battle phase. Mostly because we're not comparing the deck in versus to each other, but in versus to everything else. And in general, one would take a 1000/1000 boost with no downsides and a second attack over the more specific but less overall strong effects of the Noble Arms. And for U.A.s the Jersey does more for them as an equip than the spread around Arms do. And I do agree that NKs really just needed a proper Arms tutor, but that still doesn't change I'd take a Jersey over.... Gallatin or Alondite. Destiny, Caliburn, Gwen and Excaliburn are all fine... though the last has the problem of "Too balanced" in a world of busted arms. EDIT: Lis made some support cards I loved.   Meliagrant especially would just... be everything the deck needs Onmi fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 16:14
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Onmi posted:So just to confirm because UTC is a weird thing to time people on. The "Come one, Come all, bring your decks to the Steam chat and duel people" thing is in 10 hours I'll go update the OP with that. Oh man, thanks for the warning, I thought it would be tomorrow night and I would have lost it.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:26
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Onmi posted:Mostly because we're not comparing the deck in versus to each other, but in versus to everything else. And in general, one would take a 1000/1000 boost with no downsides and a second attack over the more specific but less overall strong effects of the Noble Arms. That's another thing with the Noble Knights, you have to master the side deck. The arms itself are defined by the meta since you should tailored them accordingly. Arfeudutyr puts a great work against Nutellas and BA, Gallatin is your best choice when facing Shadolls or Qliphs. The fact the deck is balanced is what allows it to be so flexible and able to adopt different strategies according to your needs. That's something pretty rare on Yugioh since most decks just have one strategy available.
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Onmi posted:So just to confirm because UTC is a weird thing to time people on. The "Come one, Come all, bring your decks to the Steam chat and duel people" thing is in 10 hours I'll go update the OP with that. drat it why do you do this while my friend's trying to get me to play PoE :\. Also unrelated I pulled this hero list from WCQ: quote:MAIN What's the point of the Assault Halberds and how aggressively am I supposed to use A Hero Lives? Like is it worth eating 4k to get dark law out ASAP? Also if I go second do I risk them having MST when I search out Shadow Mist and go for a mask change on their standby or do I just mask change it. Zoness fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 17:07
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Zoness posted:drat it why do you do this while my friend's trying to get me to play PoE :\. Assault Halberdier can tutor itself and it can special summon, which lets it work as Xyz material with Bubbleman. Absurdly aggressive with AHL. In Yugioh you absolutely only care about having enough life left to trigger your abilities. Burn does not exist like it does in magic.so there's no fear of commiting life to board only to get bolted out of nowhere. EDIT: As for Mask Change, you should do it on their turn just to get off Shadowmists Graveyard ability. But, in the case of "When do I" it all depends, you can use Mask Change to dodge targeted destruction or bounced effects, at the same time if it's something like Burning Abyss who needs the grave to go off, you go in ASAP and laugh.
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Here is how your first turn of playing heroes should go. Did you go first? -Get Dark Law out ASAP -Do you have Shadow Mist in your hand? Summon her. -Do you have her in the deck? RotA or AHL. -Did you get mask change from her ability? DARK LAW -Set whatever cards you do and don't need, watch your opponent banish all of their cards unless they raigeki or dark hole you. Did you go second? -Clear back row or front row as you deem necessary. -Get Dark Law out with the above methods although you can attack so just go for 1k then mask change into Dark Law.
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Jul 10, 2015 17:20
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Why would you run warrior lady of the wasteland over assault halberd in U.A.s?
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Jul 10, 2015 21:53
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I have to download YGOPro, since apparently Devpro crashed during the third game of a match, so there is the possibility that I might be a bit late.
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Jul 10, 2015 22:27
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Lisandra_brave posted:Why would you run warrior lady of the wasteland over assault halberd in U.A.s? Availability, partly (I copied my physical deck up), and partly because I can activate Stadium's effect on the opponent's turn with it and have a 2000 ATK monster that can negate effects.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:31
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I swear to god if the next banlist happens and Dante and Cir are not unlimited, I am going to loving kill someone.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:37
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Twib messaged me on Steam and said there was some sort of Friday Night Card Games going down. I would love to spectate and stream the duels if nobody minds.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:40
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No objections, looks like. Get in the chat!
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Jul 11, 2015 00:44
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN Today we are playing Card Games. I will be joining in. I have a stream. Click here to high five the sky with me.
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Jul 11, 2015 01:05
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Beef Chief posted:I swear to god if the next banlist happens and Dante and Cir are not unlimited, I am going to loving kill someone. You're going to jail (both of those are likely, plus dante to 2  )
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Jul 11, 2015 01:18
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EDIT: Well gently caress.
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Jul 11, 2015 01:22
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Koguma posted:You're going to jail NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Jul 11, 2015 01:34
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Pendulum spellcasters are disgusting. Majispecters / Spellbooks / Dragodeus / Eccentric Archfiend made mincemeat out of me.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:33
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Dabir posted:Pendulum spellcasters are disgusting. Majispecters / Spellbooks / Dragodeus / Eccentric Archfiend made mincemeat out of me. Don't forget the Pendulum Magicians.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:35
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Nope, not a one. That's something that demands its own deck I think, they wouldn't have done much for this guy.
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Dabir posted:Nope, not a one. That's something that demands its own deck I think, they wouldn't have done much for this guy. Oh you mean the Deck TYPE of Pendulum Spellcasters.... huh, I didn't think that would be a thing.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:44
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This is a friendly reminder that Plant Princesses are super fun and super powerful.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:48
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This is a friendly reminder that Sibyltricks is super fun to play and has one of the most unique playstyles I've ever encountered (which isn't saying much).
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Jul 11, 2015 04:26
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Onmi posted:Absurdly aggressive with AHL. In Yugioh you absolutely only care about having enough life left to trigger your abilities. Burn does not exist like it does in magic.so there's no fear of commiting life to board only to get bolted out of nowhere.
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Jul 11, 2015 07:36
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Huh did Chain Burn get the axe? No but it's a rogue deck and it's also the only deck of its kind. It's not like running against every deck.... except Red Eyes now, where you're risking getting burned after paying 4k
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Twib posted:This is a friendly reminder that Sibyltricks is super fun to play and has one of the most unique playstyles I've ever encountered (which isn't saying much). Do you have a decklist? I have a friend who wants to try it out. Sibyls are an amazing flip engine though. Sibyldolls are hella.
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Jul 11, 2015 14:40
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So, what's Dexie doing in YGO today? 
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Jul 11, 2015 18:15
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For someone who's bad at games (despite being a Judge in Magic), is there a sort of "what's going on" guide or something? Or some way to keep up with stuff? I, for some reason I can't explain, am considering downloading the programs in the OP, but I feel entirely lost.
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Cabinet posted:Do you have a decklist? I have a friend who wants to try it out. Monsters: 2x Pot of Taboos 1x Crystalundine the Sibyl 1x Senju of the Thousand Hands 1x Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands 1x Arrowslyph the Sibyl 2x Ouijamorrigan the Sibyl 3x Coingonma the Sibyl 1x Summoner of Illusions 1x Petalelf the Sibyl 2x Ghostrick Jiangshi 1x Night Assailant 3x Ghostrick Doll 1x Ghostrick Lantern 2x Ghostrick Mary 2x Tarotary the Sibylla Spells: 1x The Shallow Grave 2x Terraforming 2x Ritual of the Sibylla 2x Ghostrick Mansion Traps: 3x Waboku 2x No Entry 2x Glare of the Black Cat 1x Ghostrick Go-Round 1x Wall of Revealing Light Extra Deck 3x Gaia, the Universal Force 1x Phantom Fortress Enterblathnir 1x Number 9: Dyson Sphere 1x Ghostrick Angel of Mischief 1x Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction 1x Chronomaly Crystal Chrononaut 3x Ghostrick Alucard 1x Tri-Edge Levia 1x Number 48: Shadow Lich 2x Dante, Traveller of the Burning Abyss Keep in mind that I threw this all together in like 20 minutes last night, so I'm not actually sure how consistent it is. Gaia, the Universal Force is what you go into with Summoner of Illusions, because it won't be destroyed by Summoner's effect on End Phase. Most of the XYZ monsters are generic Ran 3s I put in to try and have some semblance of a toolbox, but I haven't actually used them yet. Ghostrick Alucard is there to be S/T removal and a way to go into Angel of Mischief, whose sole job is to sit there and look pretty as she brings out Ghostrick Mansion. The makeshift Ghostrick Engine I put in is there mainly for Rank 3 XYZ Summoning and face-down fodder. The real star of the show here is Ghostrick Doll, because it combines with Ouijamorrigan to wipe out your opponent's monsters every turn. Petalelf + Ouijamorrigan can do this too, and more safely, as Petalelf's effect is immediate, but Ghostrick Doll gets more Ghostricks onto the field. Also - note that if you're using Ghostrick Doll, you need to flip her face up first, and then flip up Ouijamorrigan. The biggest weakness of this deck is the complete lack of mass removal. All I really have is Pot of Taboos, and that basically requires me to already have Tarotary on the field. If anybody has suggestions, I'd appreciate it.
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I haven't played this since like 2003 and wanted to get back into it. Since I'm starting from scratch, whats the best way to get a decent deck together?
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Serperoth posted:For someone who's bad at games (despite being a Judge in Magic), is there a sort of "what's going on" guide or something? Or some way to keep up with stuff? I, for some reason I can't explain, am considering downloading the programs in the OP, but I feel entirely lost. The programs are fully automatic so you can learn by doing if you have the time to kill. Otherwise youtube or the DS games are your best bet.
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Xoidanor posted:The programs are fully automatic so you can learn by doing if you have the time to kill. Otherwise youtube or the DS games are your best bet. I was thinking more in meta terms, actually. YouTube seems like a decent option I suppose. Although the programs being automatic is good, comparing it to Magic where your options are "kinda works, you gotta pay" (Magic Online) to "literally just has card images, deal with it" (Cockatrice). Not familiar enough with OCTOGN to comment on it though I could be wrong.
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Serperoth posted:I was thinking more in meta terms, actually. YouTube seems like a decent option I suppose. In meta terms http://yugiohtopdecks.com/ will show you what's being played. YGO Organization linked in the second post of the OP contains weekly updates of the decks played in the OCG. The top decks right now are Nekroz (Rituals are back bitches!) Qliphorts (Pendulum degeneracy) and Burning Abyss (Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series) In Japan the top decks are Masked HERO (Fusion/Xyz madness), Clownblade (Xyz Degeneracy) and Nekroz (Because it's eternal until inevitably all its key cards are banned) EDIT: Also seriously check out Forge and XMage, both are automated simulators of M:TG though with limited online components for now Onmi fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Onmi posted:In meta terms On a whim, Qliphorts and the HERO thing look the most interesting ones, just on hearing about it. Thanks for the help, I think I'll download a program and see if I can get some goon games in if I go for it.  VV: Oh yeah I'm not asking to tryhard, just to get a sense of how stuff plays and interacts. Going to watch the video tomorrow I think, see if that helps. Serperoth fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Serperoth posted:On a whim, Qliphorts and the HERO thing look the most interesting ones, just on hearing about it. Thanks for the help, I think I'll download a program and see if I can get some goon games in if I go for it. Keep in mind, most Goons don't tend to play the Meta, unless you're Slur. And most decks that aren't "The top decks" can still be played strong and consistently. But to give yourself a start, HERO is an interesting place to look, if only because it's been running since like 2006, and it started off mostly bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-l0dFo6f0 This is interesting to watch to see two of the top decks of the past clash at the time of their strengths
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