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Retro Access posted:I went in blind and we were just making fun of it the whole way through. Yikes.
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Does the manga ever explain what caused the outbreak in the first place?
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Jul 13, 2015 01:19
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Hadaka Apron posted:Does the manga ever explain what caused the outbreak in the first place? I don't think it has yet. But its implied it was manmade in some fashion.
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Jul 13, 2015 01:22
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Gawain The Blind posted:
 Holy poo poo I totally missed it. That is brilliant.
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Jul 13, 2015 01:36
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"hardtack is yummy... it tastes like survival!' This actually has a chance of being good...
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Jul 13, 2015 02:35
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I was looking forward to this show since I first heard of it and its premise a few weeks ago. I'm digging it so far, it'll be interesting to see just how far Yuki is willing to go to maintain her delusion.
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Jul 13, 2015 10:10
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Hadaka Apron posted:Does the manga ever explain what caused the outbreak in the first place? it was me
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Oh, so it was AIDS then?
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K. Flaps posted:Oh, so it was AIDS then? AIDS was created by the US government to kill black people.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:39
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i want more taroumaru, and for him to not die
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Jul 14, 2015 01:40
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I marathoned the manga last night, and based on the first episode they've really moved the timing of things around quite a bit, at least more than most animes which tend to take the first 1-2 issues of the manga and use them mostly unmodified. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes down.
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Jul 14, 2015 02:27
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Wow holy poo poo, I went into this basically blind and I'm glad I did. Hope this will be good, that first episode was masterful. Will write more but I'm in my phone in bed. Tomorrow! e: also 10/10 op
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Jul 16, 2015 07:44
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just finished the first episode and i have like, this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. i think this is fear. i'm not sure if i want to keep watching
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Jul 16, 2015 08:23
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This is a series of candy-coated despair. Keep that in mind.
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Jul 16, 2015 08:49
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actually poo poo, this despair in my chest is not going away, this is why i do not watch zombie animes. what're some good actually-for-real anime moeblob shows so i can be bored into happiness? i've heard good things about non non biyori
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alcharagia posted:actually poo poo, this despair in my chest is not going away, this is why i do not watch zombie animes. what're some good actually-for-real anime moeblob shows so i can be bored into happiness? i've heard good things about non non biyori yes, you should watch that, I forget if it was the thread title or a post in the thread but 'it is basically chamomile tea in anime form' is very true.
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alcharagia posted:actually poo poo, this despair in my chest is not going away, this is why i do not watch zombie animes. what're some good actually-for-real anime moeblob shows so i can be bored into happiness? i've heard good things about non non biyori I've heard good things about Madoka. Cute magical girls with a cute mascot character.
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pointlessone posted:I've heard good things about Madoka. Cute magical girls with a cute mascot character. Are we seriously still doing this this poo poo?
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pointlessone posted:I've heard good things about Madoka. Cute magical girls with a cute mascot character. 1. magical girl shows are not moeblob shows because things happen which is antithetical to the moeblob formula of "nothing happens" 2. please consume your own self 3. Leper Residue posted:yes, you should watch that, I forget if it was the thread title or a post in the thread but 'it is basically chamomile tea in anime form' is very true. trip report: it's true.
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anyway i'm probably gonna give this show the three-episode test. not to see whether it's good- the first episode was super good- but to see whether the show is so good it can overcome my innate physiological responses of revulsion, sickness, and pain when confronted with despair
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alcharagia posted:anyway i'm probably gonna give this show the three-episode test. not to see whether it's good- the first episode was super good- but to see whether the show is so good it can overcome my innate physiological responses of revulsion, sickness, and pain when confronted with despair if the first episode is doing this much to ya, you have got to stick with it, three episodes isn't nearly enough to show off the pain and despair this series has. though the manga never really reaches 'great' levels.
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Jul 16, 2015 10:58
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Leper Residue posted:if the first episode is doing this much to ya, you have got to stick with it, three episodes isn't nearly enough to show off the pain and despair this series has. oh i just mean in general. i am a massive baby when it comes to horror things and stuff because i physically cannot deal with despair like the kind you find in most zombie stories like this, it actually causes me to feel ill and in pain. the end of the first episode both astounded and compelled me because i thought it was awesome, and inspired a dull ache and sickening chill in my chest right beneath my lungs. it's like spicy food!!
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Alright, so, I do want to give a little bit of context in how things were leading up to actually watching this show. I'd just played The Last of Us for the first time a few hours before (and strangely I'd only had a small inkling what that one was about). It was dark out, raining, and far-off lightning was rumbling almost continuously. I'm the kind of guy who takes stuff a too seriously in survival post-apocalyptic stuff. I know just enough to get in trouble in regards to that (like wondering why Joel has a 9mm 1911 with a 6rd magazine in TLoU), but it also puts me in a survival mindset. As for Gakkou Gurashi itself, I'd only seen a little bit about it. Something like I'd heard the word zombie used with it once or twice, and I'd seen someone talking about "shovel-chan's kill count." So I figured I may as well give it a try, might be neat, etc. While I was watching, I was waiting for some sort of bombshell to drop in the form of a catastrophe occurring and interrupting their school life, allowing them to start putting their skills to the test. Oh, haha, they're eating hard tack, that'll come in handle once poo poo goes down. Oh hey, bubbly pink girl really loves everyone. I bet she'll be good for keeping the group together in the future. So on and so forth. I did also notice a few things at first that seemed a little weird. Barging into class so nonchalantly (She must be a little scatterbrained, how moe), being nervous with a flushed face (She must actually have a little crush on her Senpai), what a strange way to store desks (must be a rare Japanese thing). I'm not sure if this show meant to do it or not, but it really feels like, hints of reality aside, it's trying to comment a little on shows that do this legitimately. Shows that purport to be about some school moe moe funtimes and give the characters a stupid amount of leeway that would never actually be tolerated in school. What's nice though is that even before the end of the episode, someone like me that was completely taken by what was presented still had a few moments where I could think "Oh, this show is capable of serious scenes." In particular, when the shovel girl is on the roof and kind of looking out silently. That short scene felt incredibly different from the happy go lucky scenes we were watching just moments before. It made me think something like "Ah, we'll be seeing things like this a lot once things change." Of course, even with these little tidbits giving me hope, I actually was getting to the point where I was wondering how long it would take to get to the shift in the series. Maybe it would be like Medaka Box, where the first part of the series was one thing and then there was an absurd shift afterward. Maybe this adaptation would be of that first happy bit and I'd be disappointed. What I enjoyed best about this episode, though, is that it did a thing I love in storytelling. The last anime I remember doing this successfully was Madoka with its Episode 10. Basically, you're presented a story that's generally believeable, and then something happens to give you completely new context. Suddenly everything that's been told to you before has a second meaning to it. You not only can go back and rewatch it, you're somewhat compelled to, so you can examine it with the knowledge that you now have. I think that this episode might be the best first episode of the season, at least out of what I've seen so far. It presents itself as a decent slice of life, and then compels you to rewatch it with an attentive eye. I've gone through and rewatched certain specific scenes that seemed alright or had weirdness I attributed to "It's anime," and they all really play out perfectly for the story that's actually happening. Even when Megu-nee is involved, which is so far above the storytelling capability I've come to expect from anime. As far as I can tell there's no actual bullshit pulls, there's no inconsistencies they simply didn't think about. In Jitsu wa Watashi wa's first episode, the opening sequence has the MC rushing into a room where his crush was chilling. As he barges in, she was doing something that surprised him and caught him off guard. It set up the entire premise of the show. And if you're going in blind with no idea what's up, then you just don't know what it could be until it's revealed at the end. The girl was stretching her vampire bat wings. Despite such a thing being rather hard to miss and the "camera" giving you a shot of the crush that should have revealed the wings when the episode began, you're surprised by it. Why? Not because things were hidden cleverly or anything. You're surprised because they literally did not animate the wings for the first part.. They were only animated when they played the scene again. Seriously, look at this: First time through:   Second time through:   It cheats by literally not presenting the information to you. You can't "solve the puzzle" and feel clever, or realize it was all in front of your face and feel tricked. That what I loved most about the first episode of Gakkou Gurashi. It was all right there, but in my smug "I've seen anime before" attitude, I just ignored it and missed it. I'm willing to bet everything in the show was very deliberately done the way it was in order to produce this duality. It'd be too easy to be lazy and just handwave things, but as far as I'm concerned they went the extra mile and earned their twist and reveal. I hope the rest of this show is good because a first episode this good, this engaging, deserves an adaptation that ends up worth watching. Also I think I've written too many words about this show. What do you guys think? Am I just too eager to start sucking this show's dick?
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So now that I've seen the second episode, I feel a bit more comfortable complaining about this thing I wanted to complain about earlier on. Manga stuff ahead so y'know, don't click on it anime-only people The way they're presenting Yuki's delusions really rubs me wrong. I mean granted, there's a chance they can show them gradually giving way to reality when she's faced with a more dangerous situation later, but by presenting them as so... sort of... vividly? Persistent? It feels like it's making her seem extra oblivious. It really gives the impression that she genuinely believes what she sees instead of indulging in a fantasy to make life more livable. Granted it's an adaptation, so changing stuff is fair game, and maybe my sour grapes will be addressed as the show goes on, but for now... The idea of someone who has had a full on mental collapse is a lot harder to relate to than someone who is pretending things are okay to avoid being miserable all the time. That being said, some excellent use of music and sound effects in episode 2 yall
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PerrineClostermann posted:Also I think I've written too many words about this show. What do you guys think? Am I just too eager to start sucking this show's dick? No, I thought it was such a good first episode that I also rewatched it a few times to see all the little details, and my goodness are there a lot of them. I honestly don't know yet if Megu-nee and the dog are actually real or not since the dog is replaced by a bear in the ending clip, and Megu-nee doesn't have as much interaction with the rest of the cast than with Yuki. This is a highly interesting one to watch, and thoroughly entertaining. Second episode kept it up very well, although I'm not sure I'm too keen on the effect surrounding the zombies.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:No, I thought it was such a good first episode that I also rewatched it a few times to see all the little details, and my goodness are there a lot of them. I honestly don't know yet if Megu-nee and the dog are actually real or not since the dog is replaced by a bear in the ending clip, and Megu-nee doesn't have as much interaction with the rest of the cast than with Yuki. I just read a bit of the manga. It does seem like Megu-nee is supposed to be dead and that's one of the things I think they did really well in episode one. They talk all over her and never directly engage her, besides Yuki. Also, speaking of things to notice in episode one...   Cute and funny, right? Look at the people in the yard. They're hunched over. Zombie-like. And I loving missed that poo poo. e: Added another screenshot PerrineClostermann fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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Jul 16, 2015 17:19
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I hope the OP gets worse every episode.
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I just hope it doesn't get too edgy. If it turns into HSoTD or Elfen Lied or Attack on Titan or something, I think that'll be too far.
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.Clash posted:I hope the OP gets worse every episode. I was thinking that too. As for Megu-nee she's definitely not real, she seems more like a manifestation of Yuki's self-preservation instinct or the part of her that really knows what's going on.
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OnimaruXLR posted:It really gives the impression that she genuinely believes what she sees instead of indulging in a fantasy to make life more livable. PerrineClostermann posted:Also I think I've written too many words about this show. What do you guys think? Am I just too eager to start sucking this show's dick? 
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Jul 16, 2015 17:57
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I already knew what the deal was going in, but I really enjoyed all the little details that gave things away.
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Same, though I missed a few of the more subtle ones like the writing on the blackboard.
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DiabloCthulhu posted:
Glad I could oblige. I'd just like to note that I'm proud of the description PLEX is now giving me for this show, too. TVDB posted:Takeya Yuki is in love with the school. For her, it's a wonderful place, where she enjoys her school activities, especially the activities of her club: School Life Club. The club has Rii-chan as the president, Kurumi-chan as another member, and the teacher, Megu-nee, always there for them. Yes, she is in love with her school... on her mind. Because, for her, the reality of the school and their club's activities is way too hard to be perceived...
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Jul 16, 2015 18:09
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this episode was actually kinda sweet and I liked it! much less unsettling than the moe uncanny valley of the first episode. not looking forward to when kurumi inevitably bites it tho
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Jul 16, 2015 18:22
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 So how far down the rabbit hole does this go?
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spoiler question for manga readers who're watching the show whats with short hair and the dog being in screenshots here? afaik they only show up way later in the manga? like they rescue the girl at least, don't really remember what the deal is with the dog
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Davincie posted:spoiler question for manga readers who're watching the show The show's apparently not going 1:1, even though they're basically doing the same events. Mii-kun has the same backstory, it's just already happened. Not sure on the dog, it might be dead already? It has that ghost thing on its head now, but it was also being held by multiple people in the club and it was seen through the zombie's eyes too. Also someone translated some extras from the manga: http://pastebin.com/xKr64Qre http://pastebin.com/8rz8gEUM http://pastebin.com/hgr2a3ZL
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Jul 16, 2015 19:11
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PerrineClostermann posted:
this would make yuki the single most badass and competent protagonist in the genre
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Davincie posted:spoiler question for manga readers who're watching the show Short hair girl gets introduced a bit later in the manga, they just wrote her in from the beginning it seems. The dog only shows up for like one chapter, for a flashback where Yuki finds it and then it turns out its infected and they kill it, afaik. It's either already dead and she's imagining it, or they are making you get attached to it when it will eventually be killed
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alcharagia posted:this would make yuki the single most badass and competent protagonist in the genre like i actually kind of love this theory because it turns this show from a desparate horror story that uses comedy for emotional value into the story of one lady shouting ZOMBIES CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO and having a happy as heck life basically to spite the living dead and this concept amuses me and makes me happy
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