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China can do what it wishes. It's all gonna come back to bite that Popsicle stand in the rear end because Karma exists.
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Nonsense posted:Reminder that Tibet should be freed, and any Han that currently live in Tibet should be enslaved by the Dalai Lama as just compensation. I don't know if this is supposed to be ironic or not but yeah this unironically
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Jul 21, 2015 19:11
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Fojar38 posted:the insinuation that a North Korean told a Stalinist that the best way to save North Korea is to bring back the Soviet bloc. This is your insinuation, and nobody else's,
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Jul 21, 2015 19:14
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TheImmigrant posted:Getting a feel for the pulse of DPRK from Norks with foreign-travel privileges is like asking the 0.01% to describe what homelessness is like. There's lots of North Koreans in the Chinese border towns so I imagine they'd give you a different (even if it's not unbiased) perspective.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:16
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computer parts posted:There's lots of North Koreans in the Chinese border towns so I imagine they'd give you a different (even if it's not unbiased) perspective. Oh yeah, I'm also lolling at "why would I go to South Korea to talk to North Koreans instead of just going to North Korea?"
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Fojar38 posted:Oh yeah, I'm also lolling at "why would I go to South Korea to talk to North Koreans instead of just going to North Korea?" Are you struggling to see the connection between North Koreans and North Korea?
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Jul 21, 2015 19:30
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HorseLord posted:Are you struggling to see the connection between North Koreans and North Korea? So are you like, picturing yourself walking around Pyongyang with a notebook asking people what their opinions on their governance are?
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Jul 21, 2015 19:34
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Fojar38 posted:So are you like, picturing yourself walking around Pyongyang with a notebook asking people what their opinions on their governance are? Foreign visitors to DPRK are not permitted to speak to random North Koreans. Any North Koreans a foreigner converses with are either elites with foreign-travel privileges, or refugees (e.g. hiding in Dandong or resettled in Seoul) who fled.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:46
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TheImmigrant posted:Foreign visitors to DPRK are not permitted to speak to random North Koreans. Any North Koreans a foreigner converses with are either elites with foreign-travel privileges, or refugees (e.g. hiding in Dandong or resettled in Seoul) who fled. Yeah I know that, I'm wondering if HorseLord knows that.
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Jul 21, 2015 19:50
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computer parts posted:There's lots of North Koreans in the Chinese border towns so I imagine they'd give you a different (even if it's not unbiased) perspective. Yeah but then again somehow I doubt horselord went to revisionist china to interview those said north kroeans
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TheImmigrant posted:Foreign visitors to DPRK are not permitted to speak to random North Koreans. Any North Koreans a foreigner converses with are either elites with foreign-travel privileges, or refugees (e.g. hiding in Dandong or resettled in Seoul) who fled. I don't think people who refer to North Koreans as "norks" in 2015 gets to pretend to be an authority on them.
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HorseLord posted:I don't think people who refer to North Koreans as "norks" in 2015 gets to pretend to be an authority on them. You can't address the point, but aren't smart enough to avoid it. Do you disagree with any of the facts in my post that you quoted? No you don't, because you don't know the first thing about North Korean other than that you are happy to see Norks die in the service of your fanboy slavery to ideology. (I've been to North Korea, briefly, not that a visit yields any great insights.) I call North Koreans Norks, USAnians Yanks, Australians Ockers, South Koreans Hangooks. Lighten the gently caress up, Francis. TheImmigrant fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 20:26
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I think a better comparison than Poitras at the border is the two dozen or so countries where the US feels it has the right to murder just about anyone they want at any time
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Jul 21, 2015 20:39
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TheImmigrant posted:you don't know the first thing about North Korean other than that you are happy to see Norks die in the service of your fanboy slavery to ideology. [citation needed]
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TheImmigrant posted:you don't know the first thing about North Korean other than that you are happy to see Norks die in the service of your fanboy slavery to ideology. HorseLord posted:[citation needed] I would be fascinated to hear more about how HorseLord thinks North Korea works. Kim Yong Un : Better or Worse Glorious Leader than Stalin? He recently cured all cancer, you know.
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I'm assuming that Goons In The Know have good reason to believe HorseLord posts in earnest. I sure hope xe is.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:02
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The Ron Paul cannot fail he cannot only be failed
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Tezzor posted:I think a better comparison than Poitras at the border is the two dozen or so countries where the US feels it has the right to murder just about anyone they want at any time The US? Obama feels he has that right, but this is hardly unusual. The US doesn't feel.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:05
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IMO the US should have carte blanche to drone strike bad posters, like me and Horselord.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:26
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Someone invent a missile that homes in on bad opinions and let's end this sad experiment we call humanity.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Someone invent a missile that homes in on bad opinions and let's end this sad experiment we call humanity. *Bombs skip bayless*
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North Korea is not communist but it is the end result of communism.
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icantfindaname posted:sounds like they're in need of a good stalinist purge doesn't it? I think a slap in the face and a vote of no confidence will probably suffice.
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The Snark posted:Kim Yong Un : Better or Worse Glorious Leader than Stalin? He recently cured all cancer, you know. What tabloid claims Koreans believe that, then?
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HorseLord posted:What tabloid claims Koreans believe that, then? So the options really are: 1) The government of the DPRK is totally insane. 2) The government of the DPRK has such strong information control that they can convince North Koreans of insane things. 3) The government of the DPRK believes everyone else on Earth is a moron. 4) The Kim family is a dynasty of comic geniuses who have used the lives of millions of Koreans to craft the greatest joke in human history. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 05:45
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The Korean Central News Agency published the story. It's hard to say if anyone in North Korea actually believes half the poo poo the KCNA puts out or if it's all purely for outside consumption. If it is, I don't know how anyone else is supposed to believe it either but it could be some kind of complicated 12th-dimensional troll that they've kept going for 60 years. Go on, show us the KCNA report of what you're saying. EDIT: I've actually googled this. I can't find any claim of the sort except on western and south korean news outlets, the same ones that claim North Koreans think Kim Jong Un learned to drive at 3, or discovered unicorns. It's all just made up poo poo because they know you'll fall for it and go "lol look at those stupid brainwashed koreans!". Dehumanizing the "commies" is a cold war tradition. HorseLord fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 06:04
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HorseLord posted:Go on, show us the KCNA report of what you're saying. Currently down. Undoubtedly due to imperialism and not because it is powered by a tractor.
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Betting on "we have a new drug that looks promising for some things" and not "Kim Jong Un personally blessed us with the cure to all disease".
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HorseLord posted:Betting on "we have a new drug that looks promising for some things" and not "Kim Jong Un personally blessed us with the cure to all disease".
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HorseLord posted:Betting on "we have a new drug that looks promising for some things" and not "Kim Jong Un personally blessed us with the cure to all disease". So I thought to myself "surely he isn't going to fall on his sword for North loving Korea. Not even he is that dense" yet here you are.
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Fojar38 posted:So I thought to myself "surely he isn't going to fall on his sword for North loving Korea. Not even he is that dense" yet here you are. If it's "falling on my sword" to dispute nonsense claims, even about things I don't like, then sure.
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I know my dad visited North Korea for an education trade show a few years ago. The hotel ran out of draft beer and informed him they'd have a new keg in a month or two. He also got to visit a factory where they were informed by the workers that Kim Il Sung invented the production line after visiting an artisinal style factory the first time. Now whether he believed it or not, it was clear that this was the party line he had to parrot to outsiders. So again we're back to either the government is effectively insane or they have strong enough information control to be able to get people repeating the lies and repeated often enough people come to believe some of the basis for such insane lies. Some effect of the 'the truth is in the middle somewhere' thinking because while all this insane stuff probably isn't true if everything everyone in Korean cinema has done has been following the instructions of Kim Jong Il then it seems like there's a good chance some of the techniques they use were in fact to be credited to him. People can not literally believe everything they've heard or are repeating and still be strongly affected by it.
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HorseLord posted:Go on, show us the KCNA report of what you're saying. 당신은 한국어, 동무를 말합니까? I'm not sure if you know this, but both Korean governments tend to address their citizens in Korean. It's a language, like English is a language, but a different language. I can make a finger painting of the concept, if it's easier for you to understand. TheImmigrant fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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TheImmigrant posted:당신은 한국어, 동무를 말합니까? The KCNA publishes in multiple languages.
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HorseLord posted:The KCNA publishes in multiple languages. The North Korean media don't publish the crazier parts of it in english though
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KCNA is not directed at the general Nork population. It's directed at foreigners with an appreciation for absurdity or incredibly credulous types who would fight global kaputalism down to the last North Korean.
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TheImmigrant posted:KCNA is not directed at the general Nork population. It's directed at foreigners with an appreciation for absurdity or incredibly credulous types who would fight global kaputalism down to the last North Korean. Then if the KCNA isn't for "norks", why does the North Korean government addressing it's own population in the Korean language matter re:Rent-A-Cop's wacky KCNA cancer claim? HorseLord fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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HorseLord posted:Then if the KCNA isn't for "norks", why does the North Korean government addressing it's own population in the Korean language matter re:Rent-A-Cop's wacky KCNA cancer claim? I hope this revelation doesn't shatter your fragile world, but most North Koreans do not have Internet access to read KCNA. quote:HorseLord hosed around with this message at Jul 22, 2015 around 18:40 Even after editing, you managed to gently caress up the quote and commit apostrophe holocaust.
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TheImmigrant posted:I hope this revelation doesn't shatter your fragile world, but most North Koreans do not have Internet access to read KCNA. I think you've forgotten your own point here, so I'll walk you through. Rent-A-Cop says that the KCNA reported they have a magic cancer cure all. I asked for the article. You replied to this with a patronizing "I'm not sure if you know this, but both Korean governments tend to address their citizens in Korean.", as if that's an excuse for not being able to find the alleged KCNA article. I pointed out that the KCNA publishes in multiple languages. You then say that KCNA isn't for North Koreans. Are you caught up yet? Tell me, what does NK's material for internal consumption being in Korean have to do with Rent-A-Cop's alleged KCNA (external consumption) article? TheImmigrant posted:Even after editing, you managed to gently caress up the quote and commit apostrophe holocaust. All the apostrophes in what I wrote in that post are in the correct place, and the quote is fine too. Like seriously do you not know [noun] [apostrophe][letter s][space] [thing belonging to first noun] because that's the most basic English grammar after capitalizing letters. HorseLord fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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HorseLord posted:Rent-A-Cop says that the KCNA reported they have a magic cancer cure all. KCNA posted:Pyongyang, June 18 (KCNA) -- Kumdang-2 Injection developed by the Korea Pugang Pharmaceutic Co., Ltd is believed to be efficacious for different epidemics. What's that? Tell you more about this new wonder drug? Ok! Kumdang-2 posted:1) Kumdang-2 Injection is a herbal medicine extracted from Kaesong Koryo insam (ginseng) cultivated in Kaesong DPR Korea by applying rare-earth molecular fertilizer. It contains insam saccharides, light rare earth elements, a micro-quantities of gold and platinum. Bonus NK injectables insanity: KVNA posted:Pyongyang, July 17 (KCNA) -- The Nano Technology Institute under Kim Il Sung University in the DPRK developed nano-gold injection, a combination of nano-gold and various kinds of natural bioproducts.
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