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Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
So, who would be interested in some Fantasy Football? No, I do not mean Blood Bowl.

Fantasy Football, based on good ol' American Football, before they make it illegal for horribly maiming people for our entertainment. It's been a success for the last two years, so we're running it back for another go. We need at least 10 people, and can go as high as 14. 12 would be ideal. Anyone who was in last year can feel free to sign up again. We will be re-drafting players.

For now, the following rules are in effect:
  • Snake draft (the standard sort of draft, where Person A picks 1st, Person B picks 2nd, etc, but Person A doesn't get their second pick until the end of the second round. It 'snakes' back and forth to give a modicum of fairness)
  • Rosters of one QB, one RBs, two WRs, one TE, two Flex (RB/WR/TE), a Defense/Special Teams, and a Kicker, four bench slots, two IR slots.
  • Full PPR
  • Use ESPN, and their standard scoring

As always, newbies are welcome! You DO NOT need to know anything about fantasy football. That is one reason I am trying to keep the rules simple.

I'm willing to change these rules if there's a consensus something different. I'm always up for a no-kickers league.

I'm going with 1 RB and two Flex for purposes of fun. The decline in not just good, but even marginally serviceable RBs over the last 2-3 years hit a critical point last season. Having to play a second RB every week is no longer a decision but a punishment. Worse, by a quarter of the way through last season trades basically ground to a halt because everyone needed a decent RB2, and there weren't any to be had, so why bother? Two Flex positions should hopefully bring more strategic thinking and trades back into the league.

Given that we've been at this a few years now, I also want to see if folks might be interested in making this the first year of a keeper league. Let me know what you think.

If you have questions about how fantasy football works, there are a lot of good resources online, I will find some to add here, and will answer any questions I can.

If there is magically enough interest, we can make an ADVANCED league and a BASIC league. The ADVANCED league would roll with an auction draft and be set up as a potential keeper league. We can also have more than one league using the basic set up if enough people show up.

So who's up for it?

Tentative draft date would be 9/5 - the Saturday before the season starts - but any time that weekend would work (9/4, 9/6) or even during the week before if scheduling works out.

As a result of shenanigans a few years ago, Gau is banned from the league.

I'm holding spots open for last year's teams. If everyone re-signs up, we'll have 14 teams. If we have interest beyond that, we'll look into splitting into multiple leagues of at least 8 each.

Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Aug 9, 2015

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Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
The Post In Which I Explain How This poo poo Works

The basic idea for Fantasy Football is that you assemble a team of real football players, and what they do on the field and in play earns you points. Every week your team is matched against another team in the league in head to head contests. Whoever gets the most points, wins.

Teams have to be built sort of like a real football team. This means you can't just play as many Quarterbacks as you can get your hands on. As stated above, you need a Quarterback (QB), two Running Backs (RB), two Wide Receivers (WR), and a Tight End (TE). We're also using a Flex position - you can play a third RB, a third WR, or a second TE in this spot. You also play a team Defense/Special Teams; some leagues have individual defensive players but that's a lot more complicated so we'll stick to the basics. Lastly, you need a Kicker (K).

You also have a Bench for players you aren't currently using but want to keep around - either in case someone gets hurt, or for matchups, etc. Lastly you have a pair of Injured Reserve spots for players who get hurt that you don't want to drop.

You can drop most (but not all) players and pick up new ones from the waivers or the free agent pool. Waivers happen first, so the best players that aren't on a team get snatched up. Every team gets a waiver priority, and if you use it then you get shuffled to the back of the line. This way you can replace players who turn out to suck, or get hurt, or because you drafted a running back on Mike Shanahan's team (protip: don't do this). Waivers mean if two people try to pick up the same player - the hot new RB, for example - then whoever has the higher priority gets them.

Waivers usually go for the first day or two of the week, and any players dropped since the last games start on waivers. After the waiver period ends, all the unclaimed players are in the free agent pool, and you can pick people up on a first come, first serve basis.

Waivers exist so the goon who has no job and can stay up to all hours to snatch up players doesn't have an unfair advantage.

You get your initial players in the draft before the start of the season. As explained above, this is done is snake fashion, and you try to create the best team you can. There's a lot strategy in this, which I will post about later.

So, how do you win a match each week? Well, you want more points than your opponent. You get points for what your team does. Standard scoring is more or less as follows.

quote:

Offense:
Quarterbacks (QB), Running Backs (RB), Wide Receivers (WR), Tight Ends (TE)
6 pts per rushing or receiving TD
6 pts for player returning kick/punt for TD
6 pts for player returning or recovering a fumble for TD
4 pts per passing TD
2 pts per rushing or receiving 2 pt conversion
2 pts per passing 2 pt conversion
1 pt per 10 yards rushing or receiving
1 pt per 25 yards passing

Bonus Points
2 pts per rushing or receiving TD of 40 yards or more
2 pts per passing TD of 40 yards or more
(note: the player must score a touchdown to score the points)

Penalty Points
-2 pts per intercepted pass
-2 pts per fumble lost

Kickers (K)
5 pts per 50+ yard FG made
4 pts per 40-49 yard FG made
3 pts per FG made, 39 yards or less
2 pts per rushing, passing, or receiving 2 pt conversion
1 pt per Extra Point made

Penalty Points
-2 pts per missed FG (0-39 yds)
-1 pt per missed FG (40-49 yds)
(note: a missed FG includes any attempt that is blocked, deflected, etc.)

Defensive/Special Teams (D)
(note: team defense is responsible for all points allowed)
10 pts for 0 points allowed
7 pts for 2-6 points allowed
4 pts for 7-13 points allowed
1 pt for 14-17 points allowed
0 pts for 18-21 points allowed
-1 pts for 22-27 points allowed
-4 pts for 28-34 points allowed
-7 pts for 35-45 points allowed
-10 pts for 46+ points allowed

3 pts per defensive or special teams TD
2 pts per interception
2 pts per fumble recovery (Note: includes a fumble by the opposing team out of the end zone)
2 pts per blocked punt, PAT, or FG (Note: a deflected kick of any kind does not receive points)
2 pts per safety
1 pt per sack

If you look that over, you'll probably notice it's possible for the same play to earn you points multiple times. If you have Tom Brady and he throws a 33 yard touchdown pass to Rob Gronkowski, who you also have, you get 14 points off that one play - 5 from Brady (4 for TD + 1 for 25yds passing) and 9 from Gronk (6 for TD + 3 for 30yards receiving). Not bad.

You can also lose and gain points at the same time - if you also had the Jets defense here, and that play made the score 28-7 in the Pat's favor, you lose 4 points for your defense, bringing your net total from that single play to 10.

Stuff like this does happen, but most of the time you're going to have a mix of players from all over the league.

Also, if whoever the Jets' terrible QB happens to be that week throws a pick six, that still counts against the Jets Defense, even though it really isn't their fault.

This is one reason Fantasy Football is fun - it gives you a rooting interest in every game. Maybe even the ones the Browns are involved in.

fake e: Yes, I am a Patriots fan.

Some Resources
ESPN's Draft Kit is a good starting place for information. For more advanced stats and analysis, I like Football Outsiders. Otherwise just google around and there's a lot of good information and suggestions all over the place.

For the new folks, there's a Fantasy for Beginners podcast on ESPN that's actually not bad. It's from two years ago now so any player specific advice is well out of date, and the change in how the league plays is starting to affect some of the general strategy. Still, it's a decent overview.

Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Aug 9, 2015

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
This Year's Teams

pre:
#	Team Name			Owner
1	Storygamer Fun Tyrants		Comrade Gorbash
2	Waiver Wire Bandits		SilverMike
3	Guardians of the Gygaxy		FewtureMD
4	???				ForeverBWFC  
5	Ethics in Games Journalism	Winson Paine
6	Jerkcity Gaping Goatses		Captain^Foo
7	Salty Wharf Fish-Slappers	Leperflesh
8	Thay Ballomancers		Tatum Girlparts
9	Washington Washingtonians	thatsnorth
10	SanSan Jacksons			CirclMastr
11	Jefferson Dropbears		StrongMouse
12	Norfolk Nexts			Darksaber

Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Aug 24, 2015

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Leperflesh posted:

Hi guys! The Fish-Slappers are the returning champions! Who will challenge me for supremacy?

Just a reminder Gorbash, we actually did full 1-point PPR last year. Which was fun and good, and my preference for this year too.

I'm sorry to see the RB slot go, although I do understand the reasoning. I enjoyed the challenge of filling that RB2 slot all year. Maybe it was easier for me because I drafted Charles in the first round, whereas some other goons drafted busts like AD. Then again, I drafted Montee Ball in the second. :negative:

At the end of the season, my RB2 from week 13 through the championship game was Daniel Herron, though, so I sure as hell suffered trying to earn points from that slot.

Anyhoo, I've started up a dynasty league over in TFF, and I'm going to stay in my all-IDP league over there too, so this will fill me out to three leagues again this year. I'm OK with splitting between experts and newbies if you feel like doing that.

Ah right, PPR, I was just copy/pasting info from last year's OP and forgot to fix that.

As for the RB2 slot, I spent a lot of time thinking on it, but it just felt like there wasn't any decision making processes involved by the end of the season. Especially in a 14 team league. With the Flex allowing RBs, if you can scrounge up two solid ones its a big advantage, but now there's a real benefit to scouting lower tier WRs and taking a gamble on upper tier TEs. Also I really do feel like it will help encourage trades. There was just no way anyone was going to trade away even a mediocre RB by mid-season, not without receiving an offer that would have crippled the other team anyways.

If we do a keeper league it might mitigate that concern, though I do think the roster change will make the league more fun either way.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
How do people feel about doing the draft on Wednesday, 9/3?

Or Friday, 8/23?

I'm out of town from 8/24 - 9/2, and generally I find it's better to wait as late as possible for the draft, to try and minimize people getting hose before the season even starts (see: Foster, Arian).

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
To simplify this for me - anyone who is already signed up, please send me a message from inside the league site with your SA handle so I can match everything up.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Yes.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

ForeverBWFC posted:

Is it invite only or did you not have space for newbies?

I have to send out invites but I'm trying to sort out who's still in from last year first, that way I don't have to re-invite returning players.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

CirclMastr posted:

So, are new people allowed in?

There's at least one open slot. Get an email to me via PM or email me at gorbash.kazdar[AT]gmail.com so I can send you an invite.

Everyone else:
I sent a league wide email you need to respond to remain active. Darksaber already contacted me so I can make sure to match up team and player properly, but it's much easier for me to track this if everyone else responds to that email through the "reply" option in it, which will send me the response through the league itself.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
So far I have 10 slots filled, between adding a new player and confirmed returnees! That guarantees us a season.

If I have not heard from the remaining four potential returnees by tomorrow evening, I will remove them and replace! I suspect that there will be at least one open slot. So, if you're interested in the league, please drop me a PM or email to gorbash.kazdar[AT]gmail.com.

Filling any slots that open up will be on a first come, first serve basis!

e: Would drafting this Thursday, 8/27 at say 9pm Eastern work for people? Or possibly Tuesday, 8/25?

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Let's stick with Wednesday. Would it be possible to start as early as 8PM Eastern/5PM Pacific? Or at the half hour (8:30 / 5:30)?

That way Leperflesh can draft at least the first few rounds.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
I'm out of town start next weekend until Wednesday September 2nd. Also, classes start for me the next week, and my availability drops sharply thereafter.

We could draft on the 2nd, 8:00PM Eastern, if that works for folks.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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All right, deadline for returnees to contact me has passed. I have 11 players, and need one more! First person to contact me via PM or email with their information gets the 12th slot!

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Lawen posted:

Sorry for not responding earlier but I'm (Atlanta Analrapists) going to have to sit out this year. If you haven't already booted me from the league, I'll log in and remove myself tomorrow. Have fun.

Sorry to lose you, Lawen.

All right, I've given the 12th slot in the league to ForeverBWFC and am officially declaring the league set for the 2015-2016 NFL season!

As soon as the final sign up is done, I can schedule the draft, and we'll be ready to roll. Let me know if there are any final concerns.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Leperflesh posted:

How are you determining draft order? And are we drafting on the 2nd, or (ulp) tomorrow?

On the 2nd. Right now I have it set to randomly determine draft order 1 hour before the draft starts. I also have the option to set the draft order myself, so we could use another method and then I can input whatever we come up with.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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Winson_Paine posted:

Whoever can goatse the most threads between now and then gets first pick
Any idea that requires more than 5 minutes of effort on my part is out.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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I'm ready if you nerds are.

I guess I could roll dice or something now and set the order that way if people wanted.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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Draft is in about 18 minutes in case anyone forgot.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
I think TE is gonna be an issue for me all year...

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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What the gently caress is going on in Denver today

7 points combined from FLAC0 and Forsett and the Ravens are winning by 4?

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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0 points from my QB! Awesome.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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My WRs sure did.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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Why do so many real NFL teams suck so bad?

In any case my team kind of sort of worked this week! Hooray!

Comrade Gorbash fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Oct 5, 2015

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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I've no interest in chasing people down to remind them or issuing warnings so I'm just going to say it's a two-strike rule. If you've got starters on Bye, or are starting FAs or IRs, two weeks in a row without some explanation, then I'm gonna find a replacement. That's starting from this past week's slate of games.

I'm not going to get on people's cases over starting other injured players unless it becomes a big problem.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Is it just me or are there just a lot of really uninspiring teams this year? Lots of cases of teams winning but not generating much in the way of fantasy results doing it, feels like.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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The legend lives on.

Also, if anyone has someone they think would be a good fit to replace the Wanderers, lemme know.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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My team sucks and just got suckier this week. If anyone else gets hurt, I might not be able to field a full team.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.

Leperflesh posted:

You guys know there's a waiver wire, right? You can always field a full team.

I meant this week specifically. I've got exactly one person on my bench who isn't on bye or hurt, and a couple of players who are going to be game time decisions. With so few late games this week, it gets really tight in regards to finding a last minute replacement who's actually going to play.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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I don't think I've ever seen a score that high outside of an IDP league.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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My team just sucks.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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Same here.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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If I had any money, I would wager all of it on that.

Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

My paper soldiers form a wall, five paces thick and twice as tall.
Sammy Watkins? Good luck with that.

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Comrade Gorbash
Jul 12, 2011

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I've been incredibly busy this summer, and likely will remain so until some time in late September. I'd love to continue it but I don't personally have time to manage everything.

If someone else is willing/able to take up comissioner duties I can get that set up.

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