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Krishnan Guru-Murthy is fast becoming my most hated interviewer ever. He's this endless seeker of soundbite politics.
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lmao, this is the epitome of his worthlessness I did not know that though, so thanks! winegums posted:Krishnan Guru-Murthy is fast becoming my most hated interviewer ever. He's this endless seeker of soundbite politics. What happened to him? He used to be a principled left-wing journalist but he seems to have been taken into Room 101 in the past few years. Did he marry a Mail hack or something?
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Sep 2, 2015 00:23
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Tesseraction posted:lmao, this is the epitome of his worthlessness I've heard from a couple of different people who've worked with him that he's an arrogant prick (and has been for a good few years at least), so I get the impression that his interviewing approach has developed along the lines of what gets Krishnan Guru Murphy in the news more than anything else. The same people also say that the rest of the channel 4 team are really good (with especially find words for Jon Snow and Cathy Newman), so it's not all hopeless
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Sep 2, 2015 02:04
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I have a babby's first AV vote question - when exactly do third preferences come into play? Everything I've seen (about the labour leadership election) tells me that the second preferences of those who voted for the Kendall in last place get redistributed, and then the second preferences of those who voted for the Cooper in third place get redistributed, and then someone wins if they haven't already. Are third preference votes just not relevant for this particular race or have I misunderstood? I think part of my confusion stems from the fact that I always thought AV stood for Alternative Vote, not Alternative Votes
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KKKlean Energy posted:I have a babby's first AV vote question - when exactly do third preferences come into play? Everything I've seen (about the labour leadership election) tells me that the second preferences of those who voted for the Kendall in last place get redistributed, and then the second preferences of those who voted for the Cooper in third place get redistributed, and then someone wins if they haven't already. 1) Kendall 2) Cooper 3) Burnham Kendall goes out and your vote goes to Cooper. Next round, Cooper goes out and your preference vote goes to Burnham. If your top two get knocked out, you can still vote for whichever of the final two you're least against. Hoops fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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Sep 2, 2015 06:56
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Autonomous Monster posted:If Chuka's promising to respect the result of the leadership contest, I'd take that as a sign that he's managed to fix it for Kendall. He's sniffed around, decided against being the front man for the anti-Corbyn wing of the party and is now edging his way towards a position that would allow him to take a seat in a Corbyn Shadow Cabinet. His dedication to advancing his career is all kinds of 
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Sep 2, 2015 06:58
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^ I'd be willing to take that - it looks like Corbyn is going to have a lot of trouble keeping the party together unless he trades away lucrative positions in return for loyalty. It's worth it just for the ongoing Overton-shiftingHoops posted:Third preferences come in when your first choice goes out first, and second choice second (or the other way round). So if your preference is: Got it! In hindsight that was pretty obvious 
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Sep 2, 2015 07:20
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Prince John posted:So was I, until I looked more closely at the example: When I was made redundant, nobody gave a poo poo that the only times I came into the office were when I wanted to use the printer. But that was a whole office being shut down, a few people going may well be handled differently. I'd suggest asking your boss about time off you want - they might just let you go without putting it on the books.
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Sep 2, 2015 07:36
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Hoops posted:Third preferences come in when your first choice goes out first, and second choice second (or the other way round). So if your preference is: Wait, do you seriously only vote for three candidates in a four-person election?
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Sep 2, 2015 07:41
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freebooter posted:Wait, do you seriously only vote for three candidates in a four-person election? No, that was just for clarity, I imagine.
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freebooter posted:Wait, do you seriously only vote for three candidates in a four-person election? Well I might be showing my ignorance here again but surely the fourth preference vote will never come into play regardless of what happens
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Sep 2, 2015 08:10
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it matters if there's a reopen nominations option, but otherwise yeah
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The least popular candidate's votes are redistributed in terms of the second preferences of whoever voted for that candidate as first preference.
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Sep 2, 2015 08:25
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Found this on Facebook, it's pretty clearly from the Private Eye so I guess there's a new issue out:
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Sep 2, 2015 08:46
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah right I'll believe it when I see it. If he's quiet it's only because he's plotting, can't trust the man any further than you can throw him. He's a slippery fucker. Fortunately his name rhymes wonderfully. quote:Labour's Chuka Umunna has urged his party to unite around its new leader, in an apparent offer of reconciliation with left-wing leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn. So much u-turning and hyprocrisy, it's unbelievable. "We must unite behind our leader!" *founds splinter group"
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Sep 2, 2015 09:53
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im always bemused by people making speeches about the party whilst out of the country E: Chuka is positioning himself to be the united labour candidate for 2020, but if he does get in he'll chase neoliberalism as standard - this might be the new new labour tactic - theyve realised if they are seen to be screwing with/playing politics with corbyn everyone will hate them so they need someone who is above all that/not connected to it to eventually run in the leadership election if they do mange to oust him Phoon fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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Sep 2, 2015 10:26
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Prince John posted:Fortunately his name rhymes wonderfully. Jointly led by Chuka and Mr. Hunt. I like this splinter group already.
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Sep 2, 2015 10:28
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Phoon posted:E: Chuka is positioning himself to be the united labour candidate for 2020
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Sep 2, 2015 10:33
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Guavanaut posted:Will he have stopped being two midgets in a trench coat This I want to be true above all other things.
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Sep 2, 2015 10:40
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Guavanaut posted:Will he have stopped being two midgets in a trench coat or whatever dark secret it was that scared him off running by then? He probably couldn't vote, anyway, what with being a paid up member of The Conservative Party.
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Sep 2, 2015 10:40
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hes got five years to kill off everyone who knows his secret The press loving love him though, they always refer to him as a moderniser which is odd since he seems to be mostly advocating the status quo In that piece he even talks about corbyn raising taxes on small business like "how outrageous that he wants to do this" but corbyn has talked repeatedly about protecting small businesses (with possible tax breaks, possible rent controls on smaller commercial/retail properties etc)
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Sep 2, 2015 10:41
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Phoon posted:The press loving love him though, they always refer to him as a moderniser 'cause he's young and he's black
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Sep 2, 2015 11:19
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Rafael Baer remains a barely readable oval office: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/02/jeremy-corbyn-prevail-monopoly-virtue-labour quote:This moral high ground gave Corbyn strange immunity from criticism. When the anointed one is the incarnation of principle, his actions are beyond reproach. Scrutiny of his opinions and the company he has kept are “smears”. If he has invited to parliament men who justify terrorism or shared platforms with antisemites and homophobes it cannot be because his judgment is warped. It must be an enlightened strategy of engagement for the higher cause of peace. These fellow travellers include people who have called 9/11 “sweet revenge” and said Nazi gas chambers are a hoax to promote “Jew- worshipping” in Europe.
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Sep 2, 2015 11:38
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Junior G-man posted:Rafael Baer remains a barely readable oval office:  "Labour are no longer trying to change the minds of people who vote Conservative. Instead they are trying to challenge the myths that cause people to vote Conservative." Why are they doing that Rafael? What result do they want from doing that? Could it be linked to your first statement? Come on Rafael I know you can do this.
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Sep 2, 2015 11:42
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Junior G-man posted:Rafael Baer remains a barely readable oval office: Read this this morning and literally lolled. Out of all the worthless Graun smear articles, I think this one might be the worst.
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Sep 2, 2015 11:44
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Junior G-man posted:Rafael Baer remains a barely readable oval office: He's gone from banal to 'you plebs just won't listen' in typical liberal fashion. How dare we refer to blatant distortion and misrepresentations of things said by Corbyn as 'smears'? That (I presume) Private Eye spread is brilliant.
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Sep 2, 2015 11:46
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quote:Nurses are increasingly turning to food banks and payday lenders to make ends meet as a result of years of public sector pay restraint, according to Janet Davies, new general secretary and chief executive of the Royal College of Nursing gently caress tories forever tbh.
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Sep 2, 2015 12:39
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Junior G-man posted:Rafael Baer remains a barely readable oval office: Shout-out to that guy in a previous thread who thought Behrhead was a thoughtful commentator who looks at things from a nuanced view. Seriously I would leave that man in a burning building to save a can of fosters.
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Sep 2, 2015 12:47
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Oberleutnant posted:http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/02/nursing-chief-janet-davies-shortages-affect-patients-lives gently caress the RCN too. Spineless loving organisation masquerading as a union. Maybe if they loving supported striking we would get somewhere.
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Sep 2, 2015 12:51
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Also Private Eye have also released a map that shows all land and property held by an offshore company based on data from the Land Registry.Private Eye posted:OVER the last year Private Eye has revealed the extent of ownership of British land by offshore companies, generally for tax avoidance and often to conceal dubious wealth. Now the Eye has created an easily searchable online map of these properties, revealing for the first time the British property interests of companies based in tax havens. Using Land Registry data released under Freedom of Information laws, and then linking more than 100,000 land title register entries to specific addresses, the Eye has tracked all leasehold and freehold interests acquired by offshore companies between 2005 and 2014. http://www.private-eye.co.uk/registry
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Serotonin posted:gently caress the RCN too. Spineless loving organisation masquerading as a union. Maybe if they loving supported striking we would get somewhere. they're dependent on Tories to cut immigration, and the Tories themselves are split between IMMIGRANTS and UNIONS which readily explains their caution
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Sep 2, 2015 13:03
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ronya posted:they're dependent on Tories to cut immigration, and the Tories themselves are split between IMMIGRANTS and UNIONS You lost me.
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Sep 2, 2015 13:04
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Venmoch posted:Also Private Eye have also released a map that shows all land and property held by an offshore company based on data from the Land Registry. at first I was wondering why "offshore" instead of the usual "foreign", but a casual perusal shows a lot of British Virgin Islands, Guernsey, Jersey, the like
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2015/sep/02/volunteer-law-project-wins-95-of-fit-for-work-test-appeal-casesquote:Almost all of the 200 “fit for work“ test appeals undertaken by a student volunteer project have been won, providing more evidence of the unreliability of the government’s controversial work capability assessment (WCA).
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Perhaps it's precisely because the press know his secret that they love him so... invisible levers aaaa 
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Serotonin posted:gently caress the RCN too. Spineless loving organisation masquerading as a union. Maybe if they loving supported striking we would get somewhere. It's rather amazing that so many people, globally, believe that Unions are relics and no longer needed, when without fail you can find an industry in any country with unions where the non-unies are paid like trash and given no benefits, while the ones that actually unionizevand practise striking and collective bargaining typically get livable wages and good benefits. I know a lot of conservative/neo-_____ beliefs require ignorance, but this is one of those things virtually impossible to not see.
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It's not that the beliefs require ignorance, it's that they don't believe most people deserve liveable wages and good benefits... Don't confuse being a oval office with being stupid.
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Oberleutnant posted:http://www.theguardian.com/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2015/sep/02/volunteer-law-project-wins-95-of-fit-for-work-test-appeal-cases Gutting DLA and gutting legal aid - a prefect match for gutting the most vulnerable.
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tooterfish posted:It's not that the beliefs require ignorance, it's that they don't believe most people deserve liveable wages and good benefits... I think there's more stupid than cunts in the world, mind. Not by much, but somewhat. I think most people probably just assume that somehow, wages and livable conditions work themselves out because people (that I can see) aren't literally dying in front of me (because we keep them out of the way to do that) so obviously we don't really need these unions (who I only ever hear about when they strike).
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