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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

lol at how all of this comes down to politicians being upset that this guy wants to make society work for people instead of for businesses/ the wealthy

HE'S AN ECONOMIC TERRORIST (wants people not to live in poverty)

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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, the fact that an unprecedented number of people turned out to vote means he's only popular among hash tag activists.

#retard

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Wait people liked him and are excited for him?

Well I think it's BAD then!

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Kitchner posted:

Also lol at whoever said they would prefer an unelectable left wing party than Tory lite. You're literally saying you'd rather live the rest of your life under the party who is scrapping the human rights act, letting people die in order to save money on benefits bills, and legislating trade unions to the point they are illegal rather than acknowledge the left needs to acquire the votes of the centre ground to win elections in this country.

yeah just lol @ them, they're the reason for all of England's problems

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Just keep doing what wasn't working before imo

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

In the CaNaDa thread someone posted about how jobless and soon to be jobless rig pigs are blaming the provincial NDP government for the price of oil dropping even though it started almost a year before they got into office

What I'm saying is people are dumb as poo poo and believe in a Socialism Boogeyman because the only time they engage in political discussion is when their supervisor regurgitates talking points from his boss about how their working conditions are getting worse

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Kitchner posted:

Firstly Labour was not Tory lite in the last election, it had a lot of relatively left wing policies.

It proposed capping energy bills, banning right to buy mortgages, increase the top rate of tax, tax properties worth over £2m, ban zero hours contracts, raise the minimum wage, crack down on tax evasion and avoidance, repealing the bedroom tax, and ending privatisation in the NHS.

If you think these aren't left wing policies I'm not really sure what to say.

So the idea that Labour had all these Tory lite policies in the last election is wrong.

What they DID do is capitulate to the Tories on some keys issues such as immigration. Instead of doing what a successful party would have done, which is challenge to Tory rhetoric on immigration like Yvette Cooper did when she called Cameron a coward for not accepting more refugees, they just agreed and went along with it.

In terms of the economy even Corbyn has said he wants to eliminate the deficit, he just wants to do it with massively left wing policies. Labour said it wanted to do it with center left/left wing policies too, and they didn't get elected.

In terms of Scotland you really are mad if you think that could have gone any differently. The SNP played the three main parties like a fiddle during the Scottish referendum and they backed the government into an unwinnable position. On top of that because the polls looked so close, the SNP went around saying the best way for the Scots to influence UK policy was to be in a Labour/SNP coalition which failed to materialise because Labour didn't win enough ENGLISH seats. Even if Labour won every single SNP seat in Scotland, it still would have been the opposition.

Now the Scots have realised that Scotland gets more ridiculous deals like the Barnett formula being safeguarded the more the SNP are in control, why would they vote for anyone else?

Labour being left wing won't bring back many more SNP seats, but it will probably mean it loses English ones and Nicolas Sturgeon has already said if Labour can't win elections, then independent Scotland is the only choice for those not wanting to live under perpetual Tory rule. They are already planning a second referendum, which they will probably win.

Your point about losing votes to the greens is pretty funny, because how many seats did Labour lose to the Greens again? Oh yeah none, because the FPP system doesn't give a poo poo if you get loads of votes nationwide, you need to get them in the right seats. UKIP is a great example of this, 15% of the popular vote and 2 seats. So who cares if Labour lost hard left votes to the Greens when that's so spread out it doesn't effect election results. The hard left is a minority in this country and always will be.

So yeah the idea Labour lost because they are Tory lite and the idea that Scotland is something we can win back are daft ideas. Scotland is lost to the nationalists now, there's no way of getting it back.

No one in any of those English marginals voted Tory instead of Labour because Labour wasn't left wing enough. They voted Tory because they weren't confident in Labour's economic plans, they were concerned about the SNP having an influence over UK policy, and because Labour had allowed the Tory party to dominate the public debate meaning they either had to agree with Tory policy or be branded clueless by the media (which is then believed by the public).

Corbyn isn't going to win an election, he's going to ensure the Tories get at least another 5 years of loving the British people over.

lol

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Look at all these words in GBS




Just say "No gently caress you!" and be done with it and go back to your job as Anonymous Confessions Thread Commentator

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

haha yeah it's pretty funny that after they lost all influence on the world that the english turned on themselves

those dirty indigenous poors

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Kitchner posted:

I'm a missionary from civilisation trying to educate the savages.

Rev. GBS: Spreading the Light of how this thing that is good is actually bad you guys

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Top Tip: Don't read anything printed by Englishmen for Englishmen

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

yweah literally hitler

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Quote-Unquote posted:

holy gently caress I just saw that quote and goddamn that is a lot of words that basically just say 'nuh uh'.

kitchner is the only person i have ever put on ignore because his posts are always very wordy and boring.
see: the anonymous confessions thread where he responds to every single loving confession with a bunch of advice for the people in the obviously fake funny stories


TEAYCHES posted:

you are a complete garbage piece of poo poo fucker if you dont understand that the iraq war was clearly a war of aggression. gently caress you loving scumbag, hundreds of thousands of people died and millions were displaced and now you will outright misrepresent the grave crime that was the invasion of iraq. i hope your parents and relatives are murdered by cluster bombs, i hope your nieces and nephews are orphaned, i hope someday you feel an ounce of the suffering that tony blair has inflicted on the middle east you idiot bitch. reconsider how smug you feel about it then


TEAYCHES posted:

you are right, i forgot that was him. he really is just an obtuse retard but there sure are a lot of them out there with lots of wordy bad opinions

Yeah all that and he's really terrible

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

lol what a thread

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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Drone_Fragger posted:

2 billion in uk sales?? Sorry but all this poo poo was licensed from Ireland at a 2,000% markup from A company we have no affiliation with, not-google ltd, so actually this year we lost money and you owe us tax credits, thanks.

Huh, guess we'll have to cut funding to social programs, we cannot be seen as anti-business.

Corporate Welfare makes me really angry, loving vampires should be destroyed but if you ad an "Inc" to the end of anything it becomes A Good Thing

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