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The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

So how is Corbyn perceived in the UK generally? Obviously a legitimate grassroots movement got him in and after Milliband's complete nothing burger on austerity he's kind of a logical step, and obviously David Cameron and Tony Blair think he'll destroy Labour/the country (don't care), but from all of this I've yet to get a sense of how popular he is with general public (like a favorability rating, or something).

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 18:47

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The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

SirEvelynTremble posted:

In the run-up weeks 100,000 people joined the Labour party (ie payed membership) just so they could elect Corbyn

In the 24 hrs since he was voted in, 20,000 people have joined as well.

Constant Hamprince posted:

This is what Corbyn supporters actually believe.

Well yeah, it seems like a common theme is that Corbyn will reignite enthusiasm and bring the disengaged back into the fold. This is usually a risky gamble, but after Milliband it makes enough sense to try - and the enthusiasm does appear to be a real thing. Also worth noting that this is one of Bernie Sanders' pitch lines, as well.

...but I'm still kinda confused as to how he's viewed amongst the whole population, though. Maybe that won't be relevant until a few months into being the opposition leader. I did find that at least some of his positions which the establishment would probably consider wacky are actually kind of popular. v0v

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 19:52

The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

d3c0y2 posted:

Corbyn actually does well across the board having secured higher support statistics than the other 3 candidates in polls conducted among self-identified UKIP, Green and Lib Dem voters. Only Tory voters rated Burham higher overall. Also if you dont realise that the vast majority of that non-voting part of the population is left-leaning then you've really got to get your head out your rear end.

Ah, see, that's actually interesting.

SirEvelynTremble posted:

lol

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 20:35

The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

Saga posted:

The Blairites and the Tories don't think he will do anything of the sort. The Blairites, aka the people who have heretofore had control of the parliamentary (westminster) Labour party, are horrified because they're basically a bunch of unprincipled carpetbaggers who came from the same places and went to the same schools as their Tory and Lib Dem counterparts and can't understand why Labour party members think the purpose of the Labour party should be to advocate for social democratic principles and politics, as opposed to whatever set of soundbites seems most likely to win them a seat, a cushy job in Westminster and a great post-parliamentary consultancy gig.

Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to tell a lot about how Corbyn is actually perceived, because the Westminster establishment and their pals in the press have been relentlessly anti-Corbyn. Even The Guardian was writing anti-Corbyn op-eds during the leadership campaign, presumably because their editorial staff don't actually know anyone on less than 100 grand a year. What I think we can fairly reliably predict is that the press will relentlessly demonise him and that any nuanced or non-neo-conservative position he takes on anything will be spun into negative headlines.

He may well end up leading Labour into the wilderness for a decade, but IMO that would be a good thing if it means we get an actual social democratic party to vote for, rather than 3 different half-baked versions of neo-conservatism fronted by 3 interchangeable upper-middle-class twits of the year.

Good post. Someone mentioned it on page one but I'm honestly curious how much power the establishment press will have in defining him. Certainly less than even 10 years ago (where I can't imagine he would've even gotten this far), but it's an open question. There's also the bigger question of whether his agenda legitimately appeals to a mass populace - but that definitely isn't going to happen if no one makes the arguments, even if it takes time to set the groundwork.

Y'all should probably stay in NATO, tho

(I'm an American watching this from abroad fwiw; I got interested after Labour bombed the election so hard and Corbyn's rise is fascinating)

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 21:25

The Landstander: Apr 20, 2004; I stand on land.

www posted:

champagne socialist

That really doesn't seem to apply here very much

# ¿ Sep 14, 2015 02:01

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