Doctor Who Series 9 (Season 35): "What is happening?" "Same old, same old."

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Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The_Doctor posted:

Rigsy and Shona please.

I would be very down for this.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 11:24

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:47

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

It's on the facebook page as of forty-five minutes ago. Not sure why you can't see it.

You're not missing much. It's singularly uninteresting.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 13:00

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Thunderfinger posted:

I think the more important question is what was that cool little guitar riff the Doctor was playing when he spotted Clara? I know it was some classic rock thing but I can't remember what its from for the life of me.

It was Pretty Woman.

E; curses, beaten

# ¿ Sep 20, 2015 19:32

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Burkion posted:

Huh, that's interesting.

That one Classic Dalek in the back has the correct color scheme, compared to the two others. Not including the Emperor's Guard, as he's also correct.

I wonder why he has the correct shade of blue and they don't?

A wizard did it, Burkion.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2015 17:28

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Grouchio posted:

After watching the prologue on Karn, I wonder why the Doctor stopped there and why he's raising a death flag on himself.
Despite the fact that there's no mention of Capaldi going away...

...Is this just a cheap drama ploy?

Moffat has pretty much forgotten how to create drama any other way.

'The Doctor is going to die this time. For real. No really. For real. Not like the TARDIS blowing up, not like Lake Silencio, not like having his timeline wiped, not like Trenzalore. For real.

Just kidding.'

# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 18:11

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Matt Smith had absolutely hit his stride in The Eleventh Hour, it was relatively far into production. It's one of his best performances in the series.

The dalek one and the angel two parter are the earliest episodes, and it shows.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 09:12

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

gently caress yes.

Especially re: McGann, although I'm curious about what they'll do with the War Doctor.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 10:19

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Cerv posted:

remember when tennant did something sonic to a pair of 3D specs? was amusing as a one note joke, but I think making these shades an ongoing thing is a bit tedious.

and it's a bit weird them being such an obvious identifiable brand. if the BBC did product placement you'd be rolling your eyes at how it's a bit much. tennant wore converse but they didnt' shove it in the audience's face so.

My first thought when they turned up again was 'this will never last, they can't make merch out of Rayban sunglasses'.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 21:04

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

vegetables posted:

I know it's the nerdiest thing in the world, but an episode where 12 did indeed turn out to be the lead singer of John Smith and the Common Men* would make me very happy indeed. Bonus points if the Common Men were played by Capaldi's actual band from the 70s.

*It's a fictional band mentioned on the radio in the first ever episode of Doctor Who, if you're pretending you don't know what I'm talking about

He's already met them!

# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 16:32

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The_Doctor posted:

I think it's just that he's always had a craggy well-worn face. Even when he was young, he looked drat tired. He was nearly 40 when he did Alien.

John Hurt was also a serious drinker for most of his life. Down the pub every night for years and years and years. That will wear you a bit thin eventually

# ¿ Oct 14, 2015 19:20

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Oh poo poo, I really like Doctor Who again. And I'm also finally sold on Capaldi.

That was (mostly) great. Storywise a bit ropey, but so many great lines. 'I applaud your courage, but I deplore your stupidity" is Doctor as all get out.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2015 15:28

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Also, Lofty for new companion.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2015 15:44

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

qntm posted:

I loved that moment a great deal and I thought that whole episode was terribly underrated for what it was supposed to accomplish. If you come into that episode knowing as much about the Doctor as Amy Pond does, it sets up so much and explains everything so perfectly.

Plus there's

"Sorry. Checking all the water in this area. There's an escaped fish." [taps nose conspiratorially]

The Beast Below is probably, all things considered, and objective merit aside, my favourite episode of Series 5. It's Matt Smith at his most Second Doctor-y, and while I'm aware that it might come off as sentimental clap-trap (and probably also isn't true) the idea that getting old and losing a lot doesn't make you bitter, it makes you kind is a great message.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2015 11:44

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Cerv posted:

"purple - the colour of death!"
"no, the light of immortality!"

who writes this poo poo?

I had to rewind it to make sure I'd heard that right. This episode was bloody weird, and mostly dogshit.

jivjov posted:

This is probably the 10/Donna audios confirmation.

I mean, it's clear they have the ability to use characters from the revived series, what with the Torchwood stuff and River popping up in the next Doom Coalition, and the War Doctor audios. So this is either the 10/Donna stuff that was speculated/reported earlier...or if there truly is a god that wants me to be happy, it's a series of 9th doctor dramas.

I don't think the universe is kind enough to give us more Eccleston. Much as I wish it was.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2015 19:30

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

jivjov posted:

I'm guessing it's only three stories because they're having the same problem with Tennant/Tate that they do with McGann: it's harder to get active actors in the studio for long stretches of time to record audios. Hopefully these sell really well and they get him back for more!

Work permittin', obviously.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 11:43

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

MrL_JaKiri posted:

The Also People is quite good fun for Ben Aaronovitch going "hey, I like the Culture. Let's do that in Doctor Who"

Wait, what?

God help me, I might have to read a Doctor Who novel

# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 20:43

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

CobiWann posted:

You stop that right now.

I have my mouse over a negative Amazon review for The Caves of Androzani. All I have to do is click on this button, and history may change for the worse. Someone might see this review, skip over it, and end up buying a copy of Space 1999. Both seasons. To hold such power in my hand�

Just move away from the reviews, MrL_JaKiri, and no one has to get hurt.

To have in your reach such power...to know that the tiny pressure of your finger, enough to push the button, would end everything...that power would set you up above the gods!

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 19:02

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Yeah, this series so far has felt really weird and messy. Each episode has the same 'succession of disconnected scenes loosely strung together' feel as series 7. Even the Viking one, which is the only episode I've wholeheartedly liked, felt like two stories jammed together.

EDIT - actually, the underwater one was pretty tight, it was just also a completely bog standard and unsurprising base under siege.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 13:07

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Silhouette posted:

The hybrid is going to be The Doctor himself, since as we all know, he's half human on his mother's side.

I half exxpect it to be something to do with this, because continuity wank seems to be very much in vogue right now

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 17:29

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

MrL_JaKiri posted:

As for the rest of the episode, I'm really not sure what to make of it. It felt like nothing that was actually really set up, thematically, by either episode was really resolved. Meanwhile, the use of the ISIS imagery in the other episode was, if anything, made more distasteful by this episode - the reduction of all revolutionary conflict to "boohoo sometimes things suck get over it" is incredibly insulting. Very easy to say that as a middle class white guy who went to Oxford, less so if you've had the poo poo bombed out of your country on the orders of middle class white guys who went to Oxford.

Yeah, this was my main take away from the episode. Felt like being yelled at by your Dad about SOCIALISM=STALINISM!!!!! or suchlike.

For a bloke who's spent two thousand years toppling despotic governments across the universe, the Doctor's surprisingly conservative when it comes to London in 2015

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 22:55

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

And More posted:

I hate that he shouted her down like that. Capaldi was so fantastic, I really just wanted to love the episode. The way he belittled the Zygons as if it would all just be resolved once they stopped acting up was horrible, though. gently caress this episode.

What's especially galling is that all the 'wars are hugely counterproductive and should be solved via leaders actually talking to each other' was right on and good, and Capaldi nailed it. They should've just cut the 'who would make your ipads, huh, commie?' bit beforehand. It added nothing.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 23:17

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

MrL_JaKiri posted:

I think it can be argued that revolutionary wars, being inherently an inter-class struggle rather than intra-class conflict like, eg, the first world war, don't have that apply to them.

Oh yeah, certainly, didn't mean to imply otherwise, had the latter in mind

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 23:37

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jerusalem posted:

I enjoyed listening to ...ish so much that I immediately grabbed the next audio to listen to. It's The Rapture, written by Joseph Lidster.....

That was DoctorWhat, and it was a silly Toxx and he shouldn't follow through on it.

Don't listen to it. Just write it off as accidental loss. It's honestly not worth your time. Do something more useful for those two hours. Start learning scrimshaw or something.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 11:24

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

After The War posted:

McGann Season 2 is absolutely what made me a Big Finish fan, and I usually suggest people go straight from Storm Warning to Invaders From Mars. Somebody I'm just starting out asked me if there were really stories in between, since the two fit so well.

Chimes of Midnight made me a believer, Neverland made me a convert. If you're a McGann fan, you owe that one to yourself. But it's the culmination to an arc that starts off with things just a little off (that time trickery you like) and gradually escalating to full-blown catastrophe by end. Maybe Embrace the Darkness is a little out of place, but its a fine story that does what it wants to and succeeds better than anything from McGann Season 1. Time of the Daleks has way too much going on, but builds up season's main threat and has some cool ideas as well as giving is Manipulative Daleks for the first time since Troughton.

But Neverland, man... it was exactly what I wanted Big Finish (and Expanded Universes in general) to be: treating everything in "the Canon" (for lack of a better term) as a giant toybox to be played with as they saw fit, without fear of losing newcomers afraid of backstory (the first few RTD years) or falling into fanwank obsession (lots of the novels... and Zagreus, unforutnately). At the same time, there's a willingness to take all this in a new direction and make the stories very much their own. And, despite the infamously messy follow-up, it also gave us the Gallifrey spin-off to do those things even more.

Funny thing is, after Minuet, I was exactly where you are: "This stuff is okay, but ultimately it's your standard tie-in." Now I'm lost in the madness of my "listen to everything" undertaking, and those calm, simple days are but a half-remembered dream.

So maybe you shouldn't do Season 2.

How did you not mention the greatness that is Seasons of Fear in this here long old post?

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 19:13

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Attitude Indicator posted:

is this representative of big finish quality?

Sounds a bit wonky to my BF-accustomed ears, to be honest.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 18:29

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

And More posted:

What about Storm Warning? I heard that was supposed to be good, too.

Storm Warning is only serviceable, the reason it's recommended is that it's Charlie's introduction.

# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 01:11

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The second half of the speech (the anti-war part, rather than the anti-revolution part) should have been yelled at Kate, IMO.

The first part should've been done away with entirely.

# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 15:29

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

GonSmithe posted:

Chimes of Midnight won BF's fan poll got best BF Who story, followed by Spare Parts and Davros, which are now permanently $2.99 for download.

I'm glad it won, it's one of my favorite Doctor Who stories, period.

Those are all top tier audios, and everyone should listen to them.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2015 22:07

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jerusalem posted:

[*] Avoiding ONE cliche. This is a story filled with a number of cliches, but thankfully it avoids one of the more aggravating ones - the "remember who you are!" speech. Characters - including in the main cast - get taken control of and do horrible things, but at no point does the Doctor or Ace or anybody else stand up and say,"No, this isn't you, remember who you are!" enabling the victim to suddenly stop, shake their head and fight off the control. Instead, the mind control is shown to be terrifyingly effective as it should be to have impact - it removes the agency of the characters it affects entirely. By making it as complete as it is, it warrants the fear and rage the others feel to see their friends controlled, and makes the stakes the story plays with actually feel justified.
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Apropos of nothing else, I hate this cliche more than almost any other I can think of.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2015 10:57

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Spikeguy posted:

Man that kind of stuff freaks me out. Pulling too far out or zooming too far in really ruins the idea of self.

The 'self' is essentially a very convincing cognitive illusion :ssh:

Try not to worry about it. Or go and read some Thomas Metzinger or Bruce Hood, whichever

# ¿ Dec 3, 2015 21:08

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Why did the doctor spend two billion years not telling his captors who the hybrid is, only tell his captors who the hybrid is within two minutes of escaping?

Yeah, this didn't make any sense to me either. So I've decided to put it down to sheer bloody-mindedness on his part.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 10:54

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

2house2fly posted:

Presumably the idea is that 9 would have taken the place of War, being the one who was going to push the big red button. I don't like that idea much myself; given 9's comments about his appearance while looking in the mirror in his first episode it seemed like he was freshly regenerated, though I read somewhere RTD didn't mean to give that impression (what impression DID he mean to give?)

Edit:

It should've been Eight. McGann deserved more screen time than he got, it would have been more affecting to see poor old battered Eight push the big red button than a total stranger of an incarnation, and despite Hurt being good in the role, the War Doctor still feels awkwardly shoe-horned in.

# ¿ Dec 4, 2015 16:18

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

qntm posted:

Well, heck, we never saw a single frame of Christopher Eccleston's face when John Hurt supposedly regenerated into him, so obviously there's a second missing, secret regeneration between War and Nine which not even the Doctor knows about.

Yes we did?

# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 14:35

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

jivjov posted:

We saw Hurt's face start to de-age (beard disappearing, wrinkles fading), but it wasn't explicitly Eccleston's face. That plus the Ears comment makes it pretty drat obvious that there's not another regeneration hiding between War and 9 though.

Nah, the last few frames have Eccleston's eyes and forehead and that. Not that it's a big deal either way, of course.

EDIT - check it out

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Dec 9, 2015

# ¿ Dec 9, 2015 21:40

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

What they're trying to do is quite a nice idea, but that's such a busy, messy mix (like many of the BF theme versions).

# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 14:00

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Big Chrissy E returns to the role of the Ninth Doctor for a minute and a half long message to a sick kid.

And so did a bunch of other Doctors and assorted other folks. Sly's message is particularly amusing

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 10:50

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

To be honest, I expected nothing more than total conventionality and a slightly irritating amount of references and allusions to ~continuity~ from Briggsy. Maybe the next few sets will allow for some actual weirdness, as you say.

Will probably still pick it up, though, if only to hear more Hurt.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 13:18

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:47

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jamie Mathieson for showrunner. Yes, he's essentially an unknown quantity, and his last episode was only half good, but who the hell else is there?

# ¿ Dec 23, 2015 23:33

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