LemonDrizzle posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/sep/30/huge-pension-shortfall-facing-uks-young-adults

Best squirrel them pennies away.

Phoon posted:

Its funny because if (in the event of parole uprising) the megarich flee to new zealand it wont matter, we can still seize all their assets that arent in new zealand and then theyll just be people living in the middle of nowhere with no income

JosephWongKS posted:

David Cameron seems to have be almost completely unscathed by all of Mandelson's Ashcroft's allegations so far, up to and including the allegations involving his carnal knowledge of a severed pig's head. How? How? Are Labour and the other opposition parties that weak, or does David Cameron / the Tories truly have that much of a stranglehold over the levers of power in the UK?

Zephro posted:

Prediction time: this will not damage Cameron significantly

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Terrorism isn't an existential threat to the continued existence of a sovereign state like the UK

Guavanaut posted:

A lot more people (especially outside of academia) care a lot more about the continued existence of themselves and their family than a sovereign state like the UK. I don't especially disagree with them either, if there were some sort of WMD like a Proudhon bomb which would kill states and leave people standing, it would be better than nuclear weapons or even standard warfare.

The key here isn't arguing that terrorism isn't a threat to the UK state apparatus, but arguing that there are massively bigger threats to them personally like drivers over 70 or an underfunded NHS or even the anti-terrorism measures themselves, but you'd be arguing against the media and state apparatus that depends on that fear for its own perpetuation.

Zohar posted:

There were people in D&D last year mocking Democrat voters in the US because a higher portion of them believe that climate change is an existential threat than that ISIS is.

Oberleutnant posted:

Graun homepage. Theresa May is going to say that migrants are stealing our jobs, threatening our "national cohesion" and are to blame for low wages.
I only got one word and pissflaps washes my mouth out with fairy liquid every time I use it so figure it out for yourselves.

Oberleutnant posted:

no, it's "poo poo your old racist relative says at the family bbq".

quote:

Anyone who argues that, as a political force, socialism is dead, ought to visit the Netherlands. The Socialist Party of the Netherlands (SP) is the fastest growing political group in the country.

They won 25 seats in the last general election - an increase of 16 seats - and made huge gains in last year's local elections. They are now the third largest party in Holland in terms of members and could well replace the Dutch Labour Party as the main alternative to the Christian Democrats.

Why are they so successful? I would suggest that it is because they are a socialist party that actually has socialist policies. They oppose the privatisation of public services, advocate higher taxes on the very wealthy and have condemned the "the culture of greed" caused by "a capitalism based on inflated bonuses and easy money". They oppose war and Nato and the nascent European superstate. They were the only left-wing Dutch party in Parliament to oppose the new EU Constitution in the 2005 referendum.

[...]

Part of its popularity with the voters lies in one particular policy which differentiates it from British or other European parties of the left: they oppose large scale immigration. The SP see the 'free movement of labour' as part of the neoliberal globalist package - something which benefits big business but not ordinary people.

Tesseraction posted:

Eh, it's neither a left nor a right-wing position. You can complain about wages being low from a right-wing position, and the 'taking our jobs' rhetoric is straight-up right-wing fearmongering.

Total Meatlove posted:

buzzfeed of all people did some investigative journalism

Oberleutnant posted:

Yeah, it's the kind of point made by people and groups who accept that capitalism is a done deal and the only option is to make the best possible space in it for your lot.

Tesseraction posted:

See: 'not left-wing'

Oberleutnant posted:

One of the most fundamental aspects of class politics is internationalism - class solidarity trumping national identity, and accepting that members of the proletariat or working class have more in common with each other regardless of nationality than they do with the bourgeoisie of their own nation or culture. You can't really pull a No True Scotsman over this. It's a crucial part of the concept.

Tesseraction posted:

No, the 'understands what the term left-wing means' strategy of diction.

Left-wing politics are about equality, right-wing politics are about hierarchy. That is all there is to the terms. If you don't see how 'gently caress you, got mine' is a hierarchical system then there's little that can be done.

Zephro posted:

OK, you're right. "Left wing" is a term that can only be applied to people who believe in every one of a long list of specific policies, specifically including universal freedom of movement, rather than a broad brush that takes in people with lots of different beliefs, some of which may not be shared with other people who self-describe as left-wing.

Ddraig posted:

This is always weird to me, since it's pretty much a creation of lovely practices by the councils or whatever. I used to live in an area of Cardiff that was predominantly Asian. My little sister went to the local school, which by necessity, it being the only school around, predominantly had Asian children going there because it was the closest school.

I know this isn't the case elsewhere and there are examples of the polar opposite in some areas since when I went to school there was about 2 Asian kids in our entire year and I think about 2 black kids in the entire school. That's because the catchment area predominantly had white families living there.

I guess it makes for a good right wing scare story about how the browns are taking over, but as far as I can tell this has always been the case that there's certain parts of any given city/town that have more of a specific type of ethnic background than others.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere about the UK doing the opposite. The forced relocation of immigrants in social housing to different council areas specifically to break up ghettos and increase social capital. Which when you're a reactionary fuckwit who thinks ghettos aren't simply a transitionary defence mechanism, but an attempt to start a parallel fifth column Muslim society, sounds great.

Kegluneq posted:

Wasn't that supposedly a diktat issued from above that took most of the editorial staff by surprise?

The Indy has been strongly pro-Corbyn, there have been a load of positive stories shared through Facebook.

TomViolence posted:

EDIT: Racking my brains and I just can't for the life of me think of anything significant that happened in a year ending with '39.

Coohoolin posted:

Right, because England is a tropical paradise.

Prince John posted:

May I invite you down south to the English Riviera? I had to take a photo to show my (funnily enough, Swiss) tutor at uni that we had palm trees, he was so disbelieving.

JFairfax posted:

The children of a British man have called on David Cameron to intervene to save their father from being subjected to 350 lashes in Saudi Arabia. Karl Andree, 74, faces being publicly flogged as part of a punishment imposed after bottles of homemade wine were reportedly found last year in his car by Saudi police enforcing strict laws prohibiting alcohol.

The family of the oil executive, who is being held at Jeddah’s Briman prison, say he is already weak as a result of cancer and fear that the flogging will kill him. They said in a statement reported by the Sun: “Our father has given 25 years of his working life to Saudi Arabia, and this is how he is treated. Until his arrest, he has always been happy working there and felt safe.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/karl-andree-briton-350-lashes-saudi-arabia-david-cameron

quote:

A cabinet row has broken out between two senior ministers over the fate of a controversial prisons deal with Saudi Arabia.

Michael Gove, the lord chancellor and justice secretary, was accused of naivety by Philip Hammond, the foreign secretary, over his demand that a £5.9 million deal with Saudi Arabia be scrapped. The dispute became so entrenched that it was raised at a meeting of the National Security Council, The Times has learnt.

Jedit posted:

That blogger who got sentenced to 1000 lashes still hasn't had his second fifty because he's not in good enough health to withstand them, and he started out young and fit. What do you think will happen when they flog a cancer survivor in his 70s? The Saudis are intent on literally killing a man for possession of alcohol - something that doesn't violate any kind of Islamic law, which only cares about you consuming it. If you aren't complaining about that poo poo, then gently caress off.

JoylessJester posted:

regularly going into deflation. PARTY OF ECONOMIC STEWARDSHIP.

Jack the Lad posted:

Jose posted:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/14/gchq-monitor-communications-mps-peers-tribunal-wilson-doctrine


owned lmao

Angepain posted:

penopodes

ThomasPaine posted:

It's pretty well accepted that scientific and medical elites used knowledge of latin/greek, among other things, in order to control access to their fields, ensuring that only those they admitted could get a foothold. This was particularly apparent as they professionalised and you had exams/certification etc becoming a prerequisite to getting a job. Prior to this things would be recorded in whatever language but afterwards always in the classical ones. All about maintaining professional legitimacy and keeping the riff raff out in order to do so.

Oberleutnant posted:

Never not use emotes imo

Tesseraction posted:

In Greek it would be hoi polloi.

Kaislioc posted:

Losing child abuse dossiers, having suspects go free, having guns mysteriously fly to the other side of the room without any fingerprints, having people tragically fall into and self-zip bags, immediately and permanently deleting information related to child abuse etc. etc.

The evidence is overwhelming. The United Kingdom has fallen victim to a coordinated ring of butter fingers.

Edit: Whoops! Just accidentally buried an axe in my own head. Egg (or axe as the case may be) on my face.

JFairfax posted:

I thought doggerland was the durdham downs