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shadok posted:Hot take: no-one in baseball deserves a WS ring more than Jose Bautista. Carlos Beltran, ya dingus
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Continuing offseason Jays talk, it will be interesting to see what happens to the rotation. With Buehrle and (probably) Price gone, it leaves a fairly massive hole. There's also the (unlikely) possibility that Dickey's option isn't picked up and Estrada leaves as an UFA. Sanchez will probably get another chance at a rotation spot (he was getting better towards his last few starts, iirc), and Osuna could be moved there. Other than that, I guess we wait for some of AA's magic to be sprinkled on this team. I just hope the first few months of next season aren't spent fumbling around trying to figure out the rotation.
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Oct 24, 2015 14:49
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The Jays have 5 starters for next season in Stroman Hutchison Sanchez Osuna and Dickey but could have like 50 million if budgeting goes the way I expect it to. That's enough for both Price and Davis!!!
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Oct 24, 2015 16:47
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I know you're excited to bring Rajai Davis back, but I think the Jays could get him for cheaper than that.
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Oct 24, 2015 17:07
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I'm gonna miss that atmosphere in Toronto. Whenever there was a game going on, it was like the whole city turned into Blue Jay Land. It was crazy and ruled hard.
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Oct 24, 2015 17:30
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Rumor has it that Klentak got the Phillies GM job. From what little I've heard, he's a pretty good hire.
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Wait the Reds might actually trade Votto? Having an enormous Canadian star would be a marketing boon for Rogers and certainly worth taking on his contract (if, yknow, baseball reasons aren't enough to convince you to take on his contract, which they should be). Anyway, having the probable MVP at the plate with the go ahead run on 2nd & tying run on 3rd and the season on the line is pretty much ideal if you're going to be in that position, and losing to the best team in the AL isn't particularly shameful. Stoked as heck for next year.
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Oct 24, 2015 18:39
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FairGame posted:Carlos Beltran, ya dingus I agree with this surprisingly
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DannoMack posted:Wait the Reds might actually trade Votto? Having an enormous Canadian star would be a marketing boon for Rogers and certainly worth taking on his contract (if, yknow, baseball reasons aren't enough to convince you to take on his contract, which they should be). But it was an inside jooooobbbbb. There are actually a bizarre amount of people saying it's a conspiracy for ratings, or to blame the one strike call (not the right call) and homerun call (which was the right call) for the game. Sometimes you just lose by one run in a tight game, at least this WS run was exciting.
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Intruder posted:I would take Votto in a heartbeat he'd have the best OBP on the Astros by nearly 100 points He'd be a perfect fit for the Astros' situation and that is why I am convinced it won't happen
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Oct 24, 2015 19:31
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The idea that MLB would rig a game to make sure KANSAS CITY got in the World Series is a bit much for me.
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zakharov posted:The idea that MLB would rig a game to make sure KANSAS CITY got in the World Series is a bit much for me. Ain't like the smalltime New York market is going to help with ratings
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Oct 24, 2015 19:39
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I wonder if the Jays can sell high on Kevin Pillar in the offseason, and decide to go with Dalton Pompey as the starting CF. Then there's also the question of what you do with Chris Colabello.
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zakharov posted:The idea that MLB would rig a game to make sure KANSAS CITY got in the World Series is a bit much for me. This is MLBs vendetta for how the Canadian elections turned out.
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Hand Knit posted:I wonder if the Jays can sell high on Kevin Pillar in the offseason, and decide to go with Dalton Pompey as the starting CF. Then there's also the question of what you do with Chris Colabello. I was thinking about that too. Kevin Pillar was a badass this year, but I fear that he is, at his heart, still "Wave shittily at a breaking ball a foot outside" Kevin Pillar of old. Pompey just has such a better approach at the plate, is speedier, and as crazy as it sounds he should also be a better center fielder.
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Oct 24, 2015 20:33
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The Red Sox have hired Ruben Amaro, Jr. As first base coach.
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Ice To Meet You posted:The Red Sox have hired Ruben Amaro, Jr. I thought for sure you were making a joke, but I checked Twitter anyway, and welp
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Hand Knit posted:I wonder if the Jays can sell high on Kevin Pillar in the offseason, and decide to go with Dalton Pompey as the starting CF. Then there's also the question of what you do with Chris Colabello. Pillar was pressed into service as a starting outfielder this year because Pompey sucked so hard at CF he got sent down to the minors. By all means let him try again next year but right now Pillar is the better choice by a long way.
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zakharov posted:The idea that MLB would rig a game to make sure KANSAS CITY got in the World Series is a bit much for me. Not that there is a conspiracy, but Fox Sports certainly benefits from having an American team in the WS as opposed to a Canadian one. Half the invested fans would be watching on a Canadian sports channel with Canadian commercials. But there is no MLB conspiracy (30million Canadians buying MLB branded AL Champ apparel is good for baseball) and the booth was not favouring one team to another, Don Cherry is just crazy.
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shadok posted:Pillar was pressed into service as a starting outfielder this year because Pompey sucked so hard at CF he got sent down to the minors. By all means let him try again next year but right now Pillar is the better choice by a long way. It's not just about next year though. Pompey has always been the better prospect and shopping Pillar at what is likely his peak value is certainly worth exploring. And I get that this team's window is right now and that you absolutely go for it in 2016. But if you can swap Pillar for a mid-rotation guy or something that could potentially be a net positive both next year and down the line.
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Welp, with Mattingly and Dave Martinez becoming available in the past week the Nats have decided to give Dusty Baker a second interview. Fantastic...
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uhh hello off season thread, my old friend. Here's to hoping the Blue Jays can re-sign Estrada and some kind of ace starter. Maybe get a bullpen piece or two while they're at it. Next year needs to be the year; with Bautista and Edwin heading into free agency
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Trading Kevin Pillar is not a good idea imo. The Jays still need depth and Jose is gonna be a 1b on the not too distant future.
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MassaShowtime posted:Trading Kevin Pillar is not a good idea imo. The Jays still need depth and Jose is gonna be a 1b on the not too distant future. I guess with trades it's the always lame "well it depends on what they get back" but Pillar has to play CF to have value and if the Jays think any combination of "Pompey is going to be ready during 2016" and "Pillar is not actually this good" then I think that's a good reason to move him. Then there's also the fact that Pillar could be part of a package that brings back a relevantly-good starter.
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I see no reason that Pillar can't be a .700-.725 ops defense first cfer. He makes no money and the Jays need ofers as soon as 2017 when Revere is too expensive to be what he is and Jose is either gone or at 1b. If Pompey is a guy that can force the jays hand to move Pillar, great but the OF was a problem for most of the year once Saunders died and the Jays are one injury away from the same situation repeating itself next year. Pompey can get 400 abs rotating through the OF next year. Also trading for a starter seems silly when there's close to a dozen options on the FA market.
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Koruthaiolos posted:Welp, with Mattingly and Dave Martinez becoming available in the past week the Nats have decided to give Dusty Baker a second interview. Fantastic... The Cubs will gladly take your best starting pitching off your hands for cheap. You know, to save them from Dusty and all.
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ZenVulgarity posted:I agree with this surprisingly Except the fact that he is a Yankee.
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Reds old, Reds broke, Reds pitching bad. Reds rebuild. Saurez ended up being a decent stopgap to a light a fire under Cozart. It'll be great to get Mesoraco back. Frazier had a fantastic pre-ASG, lookin forward to seeing his 2016 campaign. Winker needs to be dealt or moved to AAA. Stephenson bats like a monster so that'll be nice, but we're already pretty decent at catcher. Gonna need a new ace pitcher. I don't pay a ton of attention to the entire farm system, but I know pitching development has been a sticking point in the organization for awhile. Diaz can gently caress off. The Redemption of JJ Hoover was wasted. Iglesias shows promise, as does Lorenzen. Chapman's PC will continue to rise and his shoulder will explode. Go Reds.
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No one on the Reds has actually said anything about trading Votto but you think they would be open to it if they are planning on being dogshit for the next few years. Frazier too. Sure he is owed a ton of money but I don't think his contract is outlandish for what will likely be a perennial MVP candidate for they next 3+ years. I think the team is in the sort of unusual position on not being competitive but having a lot of desirable pieces that should get back top prospects in return. Votto, Frazier and Chapman should get back an organization's topish prospect. Mesoraco too if they go full team implosion. GOOD TIMES ON METH fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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chilihead posted:Except the fact that he is a Yankee. It's more than that, it's that he's a highly visible Ring Chaser. Since he wound up on the 2011 Giants because he "wanted to be traded to a winner" he has gone to regular division winner St Louis and perpetual postseason contender NYY.
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Scob posted:i think the reds and brewers are in a very tough position where they have to be better then three teams that are clearly more talented now to compete, i mean sure one of the three are probably going to flop next season, but all three? If I were in the Cincy or Milwaukee front offices and looking at 3 teams ahead of me where most of their talent is locked up through 2019 or later there would be some hard discussions on committing to the suck, throw your MLB talents at contenders for prospects and hope to catch the beginning of the next decade when everybody on the Pirates and Cubs need to get paid I don't include St. Louis because they will somehow be perpetually good because reasons
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So this guy whoever he is thinks Alex Gordon's contract will be in the $12-13mm x 3 range. Is that in any way realistic? He's probably going to be a 4-5 win player for all of the next three years. I mean...I hope it is true, the Royals would almost certainly resign him at that price, but still. Seems...pessimistic to me.
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I would maybe quit following baseball forever if my team decided on a 5 year tank
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bewbies posted:So this guy whoever he is thinks Alex Gordon's contract will be in the $12-13mm x 3 range. Is that in any way realistic? He's probably going to be a 4-5 win player for all of the next three years. I mean...I hope it is true, the Royals would almost certainly resign him at that price, but still. Seems...pessimistic to me. This may be out there but Alex Gordon is going to get more money than Melky Cabrera
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bewbies posted:So this guy whoever he is thinks Alex Gordon's contract will be in the $12-13mm x 3 range. Is that in any way realistic? He's probably going to be a 4-5 win player for all of the next three years. I mean...I hope it is true, the Royals would almost certainly resign him at that price, but still. Seems...pessimistic to me. $12-13mil for Alex Gordon's production is too low. Even if he gets a little worse, he's still worth way more than that with his bat alone.
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bewbies posted:So this guy whoever he is thinks Alex Gordon's contract will be in the $12-13mm x 3 range. Is that in any way realistic? He's probably going to be a 4-5 win player for all of the next three years. I mean...I hope it is true, the Royals would almost certainly resign him at that price, but still. Seems...pessimistic to me. Alex Gordon will probably be closer to 20M per year given how well he's hit over the last five years. Durability isn't an issue either, no idea why that anonymous GM thinks Gordon is only worth 12-13M given that offense is still at a premium
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CubsWoo posted:If I were in the Cincy or Milwaukee front offices and looking at 3 teams ahead of me where most of their talent is locked up through 2019 or later there would be some hard discussions on committing to the suck, throw your MLB talents at contenders for prospects and hope to catch the beginning of the next decade when everybody on the Pirates and Cubs need to get paid This is the likely reason they hired a new GM. Doug Melvin is always in "win now" mode and the ownership recognizes that a proper rebuild is necessary at this point. Anybody who thinks Milwaukee is going to try to compete any time in the next 5 years is crazy. It's really likely that every single pitcher in next year's starting rotation will have been promoted from the minor leagues within the last 3 years. Outside of C/1b/RF, all of the positions will be manned by rookies or people who are just outside of rookie status. A team that thinks it can compete doesn't flip Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers for prospects.
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Groucho Marxist posted:I would maybe quit following baseball forever if my team decided on a 5 year tank It's really not so bad. You just don't tie yourself to baseball for a little while and see if you can come away with some of the fun stories that can still happen with scrub players (e.g. John Baker game). And who knows, maybe your team ends up better again ahead of schedule.
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The Mariners are doing a conference for introducing Scott Servais, so far he's said this: - The team needs to do a better job getting on base - Needs to focus on pitching and defense more - Says veterans "carry the load" but young guys "bring energy. And we need energy right now." - Says advanced metrics are important, "if you try to fight it, you end up losing" - Says Jim Riggleman and Dusty Baker are managers he admires  - He's a Packers shareholder So far some good stuff on OBP and advanced metrics in general. It's all fluff, but hey he doesn't seem like a complete total idiot!
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