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Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

quote:

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-will-defend-move-to-declare-ttc-an-essential-service-in-court-challenge-1.2628181

Ontario will defend move to declare TTC an essential service in court challenge

TORONTO -- Ontario's Liberal government said Monday it would fight a union attempt to strike down a 2011 law that declared the Toronto Transit Commission an essential service and took away its workers' right to strike.

The Amalgamated Transit Union asked the Ontario Court of Appeal to declare the TTC's essential service designation unconstitutional. The measure bans strikes and lockouts at Canada's largest public transit system.

"The right to bargain with your employer about the value of your skills, knowledge and effort is meaningless if you cannot legally withhold your labour as part of the bargaining process," said ATU local 113 president Bob Kinnear.

He accused the government "of using the power of the state to force people to work against their will" and said the union expected the case to eventually end up before the Supreme Court of Canada.

"The Charter of Rights and Freedoms would be hollow if it could be ignored because it may be inconvenient to get around the city when the transit system is down," added Kinnear.
But Labour Minister Kevin Flynn said 1.5 million people rely on Toronto's transit system every day, and in the government's opinion, it remains an essential service.

"Certainly in a cosmopolitan area like this, in this day and age, the transit system of a major city is an essential service," he said. "That view was shared by the Ontario legislature and it continues to be our view."

Flynn said the province enacted the TTC essential service designation four years ago at the request of Toronto city council, and the government "intends to defend itself" in court.
The union said the Supreme Court broke new ground in February with a ruling involving the Saskatchewan government that found the right of public sector workers to strike was an essential part of the collective bargaining process.

"We did pay attention to the ruling and wondered what the future may hold as a result of that," said Flynn. "Whether that prompted this action today, whether there is a direct relation between the two or whether there is a relationship that can be proven in court, we have yet to see."

The New Democrats said they generally oppose essential service legislation because "it's a pretty heavy-handed thing to take away people's bargaining rights," but the Progressive Conservatives support the idea.

PC Leader Patrick Brown said he'd also like to see the government add the essential service declaration to GO Transit, which transports about 250,000 commuters into and out of Toronto every weekday.

The same arguments made to declare the TTC an essential service would apply to people from Barrie, Kitchener-Waterloo, Hamilton and Niagara who use GO trains and buses to get to work or school every day, he added.

"A lot of people rely on the GO to get to work too, so obviously that's a conversation that has to be had," said Brown.

But Flynn said the Liberals have not considered declaring GO Transit an essential service like the TTC.

"I think people have other options to get into the GTA," said Flynn. "It's once they get into the 416 area specifically that the TTC comes into play in such a big way."

More fallout from the SCC decision in February to side against essential services legislation. I've read 4 other terribly brief articles about the same thing, and this was the first to actually point to the SCC decision as being behind the court challenge. Booooooring

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Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Jordan7hm posted:

Good new thread.

Do you have links to articles from security / privacy people who say that the suggested c51 changes don't go far enough?

They are merely adding committees to the bill, it's terrible. Keep in mind the Canadian Bar Association says the bill is hot garbage.

http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/05/08/Bill-C-51-Oversight/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/parliament-must-reject-the-anti-terror-bill/article22932072/

https://cdnantiterrorismlawaudit.wordpress.com/

http://www.macleans.ca/authors/john-geddes/two-profs-take-on-the-harpers-anti-terrorism-bill/

# ¿ Oct 26, 2015 21:48

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Baird can be as queer as he likes, however cosying up to the reformers is somewhat pathetic to see. Sorry if you don't agree.

Edit: while we are talking Baird, has anything concrete come from those Twitter rumours?

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 01:39

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Cultural Imperial posted:

Why do we need national security when there's nothing worth protecting in this country

Weed

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 15:17

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Kafka Esq. posted:

I'm already thinking of closing this thread.

Don't be a fascist

Thread title: people who contribute to oppressive political movements should be criticized imo

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 15:19

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Prior to outright repealing C-51, which should happen, there should be made a report that outlines the number of events prevented, and whether or not the information gathered under c-51 as being the root cause for that preventative action. Blackout the events all you want, I want to see concrete examples and numbers made public as to the efficacy of the blanket charter abuse to date.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 15:41

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Poizen Jam posted:

I know you're not this naive but drat is it ever cute when people think partisan politicians actually give a poo poo what policy analysts say.

I have a dream where politicians are actually out to empower the citizens that elect them.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 15:47

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Ikantski posted:

Well excuuuse us for believing a school teacher could do a good job. Joke's on you though, rural people move into a place and never leave. It's city people who move into a 700 sq ft condo and then realize they can't raise a kid there so they buy a townhouse and then the house is too small and crime too high and he gets a promotion so they move again out to the suburbs.

I think municipal land transfer tax is dumb because they already have municipal property tax. If they need more, just raise that and tax everybody, why the extra tax on people who are moving? People generally don't move houses just for fun, it isn't a consumption tax. You also raise the barrier to new homebuyers aka potential property tax payers. And it's an extra tax on seniors downgrading and makes them more likely to stay in their home forever so you plebes never get to buy them and are forced to rent or live in the suburbs oh now I like this tax.

Anything that actively depresses house flippers and real estate speculating is good policy imo.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 16:28

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-forces-ombudsman-to-review-canadian-rangers-program-1.3289755?cmp=rss

EXCLUSIVE
Canadian Forces ombudsman to review Canadian Rangers program

Review will take 6 to 9 months to complete and will look at entire northern patrol program

The Canadian Forces ombudsman will conduct a full review of the Canadian Rangers program, CBC News has learned, following stories about deaths among members of the military's northern patrol units.

The military ombudsman is finalizing the scope of the investigation, but it will include health care, fitness and the reporting of injuries.

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Canadian Ranger Moses Kigusiutnak of Arviat, Nunavut, looks out at a bay near Resolute, Nunavut. The Canadian Forces ombudsman is launching a full review of the Canadian Ranger program. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

Jamie Robertson, spokesman for the ombudsman's office, told CBC News the review is expected to be launched within the next 90 days and will take six to nine months to complete.

49 Canadian Rangers have died since January 2011
Canadian Rangers: A closer look at our 'eyes and ears' in the North
CBC News reported earlier this year that 49 Canadian Rangers and Junior Rangers have died since January 2011, a trend the military chaplain responsible for the North called "significant" and raised as a concern in a report for the chief of the defence staff and chief of military personnel in early 2014.

According to the Department of Defence, one of those 49 deaths was service related, while the rest can be attributed "to health and hazard issues common in the larger population of the communities in which they live � such as accidents like drowning and health-related causes like heart disease and diabetes."

The military noted that unlike regular Canadian Forces members, Rangers do not have a compulsory retirement age and therefore may be dying of natural causes.

The review of the Rangers comes as the ombudsman releases a series of investigations over the next few months that focus specifically on Canadian Forces reservists, the part-time soldiers who are called upon for domestic operations or to augment and support the military's regular force.

'Eyes and ears' of the North

The Canadian Rangers are part of the Canadian Armed Forces Reserve, but are not considered reservists. Generally they are part-time volunteers from the remote communities where they serve. Rangers are responsible for reporting unusual activities, collecting data to support military operations and conducting surveillance when required.

Canadian Rangers fire Lee-Enfield rifles
Members of the Canadian Rangers from Fort Resolution, N.W.T., fire their Lee-Enfield rifles. The Second World War era rifle is being replaced with a newer rifle being made by Colt Canada. (Combat Camera/Department of Defence)

They have been integral to Canada's Arctic sovereignty strategy and are often referred to as "the eyes and ears" of Canada's North.

Many of Canada's Rangers are aboriginal. They do not have the same access to services, including medical services, as regular Forces members and reservists � unless they are injured on active duty, in which case they would have access to benefits provided by the Canadian Forces.

The military has also been criticized for providing Rangers with decades-old weapons to use. The majority of the force is still carrying the Lee-Enfield rifle that dates back to when the organization was created in 1947. The military is in the process of providing newer rifles being made by Colt Canada.

There are currently about 5,000 Rangers who serve in more than 200 communities. The largest unit is the 1st Canadian Ranger Patrol Group, with 3,400 members. It covers Nunavut, Yukon, Northwest Territories and the community of Atlin, B.C., which make up about 40 per cent of Canada's land mass.

The program Harper wanted to significantly expand.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 17:08

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

vyelkin posted:

"We failed to better communicate the nature of second class citizenship."

https://openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-24/

Sponsor
Chris Alexander Conservative

In case anyone was not clear he is a totally delusional.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 20:26

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

The entirety of the CPC has no ethics whatsoever, none.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 20:27

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

:weedlordbrothels: should be the liberal logo

# ¿ Oct 27, 2015 20:45

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

PT6A posted:

Neither smoking nor drinking, nor illegal drug use in fact, is morally wrong. They are all amoral.

I think I get what you're saying. You want legal weed and are willing to pay more than tobacco taxes for that privledge.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 01:22

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Do it ironically posted:

nice of notley to rack up 16 billion in debt for my province and then claim it will balanced after their term is over hmmm yes

though i am loling over the tabacco increase

Did you also vote Harper?

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 02:07

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

flakeloaf posted:

Serious question, at what point does the Sun run so far afoul of basic journalistic standards that someone holds them to account?

Consider them a British tabloid at best

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 16:16

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Do it ironically posted:

I voted Trudeau, Notley, voted for Nenshi twice, and so did my wife shocking to you I know because most on this sub forum only hang around with their online friends, or if they do have real life ones they all only share the same opinions as you but if you go out into the real world and actually meet people you'll see that you can disagree with a politician but still overall agree with them and that doesn't make you crazy

notley is just doing the same failed thing that the PCs did which is she's banking on oil prices going back up, that's the only logical explanation for how their budget will eventually get balanced and it will be the NDP downfall when it doesn't happen, i'm fully expecting them to leave office with Alberta in debt problems after seeing this budget

A lot of

to answer a question, and don't presume to realize where I was going with my question either.

The problem is not with Notley or oil prices, it's with Alberta's lack of revenue generating tools outside of energy royalties.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 16:44

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

cowofwar posted:

What would be the income tax adjustments to balance Alberta's budget without oil royalties?

Actual progressive taxation of personal income. Look at what they are proposing, granted it is a toe into socialism. The revenue shortfall was forecast at 5b , but will likely be higher at 6-6.5b. The personal income tax revenue was 11b out of a 50b total. http://finance.alberta.ca/publications/budget/budget2015-october/fiscal-plan-revenue.pdf

code:

Taxable income		Rate
			2015	2016
$125,001 � $150,000	10.5%	12%
$150,001 � $200,000	10.75%	13%
$200,001 � $300,000	11%	14%
>$300,000		11.25%	15%

Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Oct 28, 2015

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 18:38

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Ontario is pushing the top rate to 53.5% in 2016, good times.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 19:28

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Boring content, great title

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-liberal-constitutional-laws-1.3292120?cmp=rss

Liberals must decide which Tory laws to fix, which ones to flush

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 20:45

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

It's not a cost issue, cars easily cost 4x as much or more than transit, and people still drive.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2015 22:22

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Ikantski posted:

That's what the opposition is saying but it's obviously impossible to prove. Some money flows in to the union from the OLP and other money flows out to political campaigning. It's annoying but it's not illegal. I think the unions look especially bad to the teachers. Interestingly, one union, the ETFO, the one who is going to be docked pay if they don't call off work to rule, is the only union who hasn't ever accepted any cash from the OLP. Good on them.

Hammond is a moron and ETFO will end up with less than OECTA and OSSTF like last time. Docking the unionized members pay will just to them filing for conciliation and striking 5 days afterwards.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 15:16

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Ikantski posted:

What would you do if you were Sam Hammond?

Seppuku, or just accept the same offer as the other teachers. Without unity you have no leverage.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 15:33

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Ikantski posted:

What's the point of having separate unions then? I thought their big issue was that the large class sizes are a lot harder to manage for elementary teachers than they are for secondary, that makes sense to me? Isn't it ultimately up to the teachers too? Hammond must have a pretty good idea of what they want. His union is 50,000 teachers, I'd think his leverage is fine.

Keep in mind the class size numbers are 'averages'. You will still see some classes well past the official class size numbers. Especially in the earlier junior grades where students are not as 'focused' its a poo poo show. Kindergarten at least has an ECE now, but having 30 grade 3 or 4 students under a single teacher is a nightmare. You simply cannot provide enough 1 on 1 time to those students that need it. Don't forget they also add in special needs students to regular classrooms now, sometimes without the appropriate staffing to help them succeed.

Other issues are being told what work is acceptable for their planning time, and to some extent monetary issues. I don't have any direct information about the ETFO talks so I can't elaborate more, just from my sources.

They can strike sure, but a province wide strike from ETFO/OECTA/OSSTF is serious business. An ETFO strike only effects half of the provinces primary/junior students, notwithstanding those private schools and the French boards.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 15:56

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Coolwhoami posted:

Right, except you can't have unity without, you know, unity. If there are major differences in bargaining positions between the different unions (such as the class size issue mentioned above) that one group might be willing to sacrifice for other things but another doesn't, some group within is going to be unhappy about whatever choice is made and made the outward projection of solidarity weaker, which entirely defeats the purpose of doing that to begin with.

There aren't 'major' differences between the deals, feel free to elaborate if you feel like there is. Hammond will end up with a weaker deal like in 2008, he is playing hard ball with Wynne to make up for that probably. Wynne was the MoE in 2008 when she 'negotiated' the deal for the ETFO holdouts which was less than OSSTF and OECTA.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 16:20

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Do it ironically posted:

taxes on alcohol and smokes are loving stupid unless you tax sugar/fast food/whatever as well

They do in Ontario, HST is applied to non essential grocery and prepared food over $4.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 16:42

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

quote:

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/how-much-income-tax-could-canadas-top-1-pay
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/newsroom/news-releases/room-hike-federal-taxes-1-study

Room to hike federal taxes on the 1%: study
OCTOBER 29, 2015

OTTAWA�The new federal government has plenty of room to raise the taxes of Canada�s one percenters, according to a new study by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (CCPA).

The study, released in the wake of a federal election that handed the Liberals a majority government, concludes there is plenty of room for the new government to make good on its election promise to raise the top marginal income tax rate on those earning $200,000 or more to 33%. In fact, the findings suggest there is room to do more higher up the income scale.

How Much Income Could Canada�s Top 1% Pay?, by internationally respected CCPA Research Associate Lars Osberg, shows Canada�s richest now pay a lower tax rate than in the 1990s even though their share of total income has increased dramatically.

�The top marginal income tax rate has been well over 50% for most of the time Canada has had an income tax. In fact, during Canada�s high growth years between 1940 and 1980, the top marginal income tax rate was well over 70%. Now the top federal income tax rate is 29%,� says Osberg. �Our federal government used to ask more of Canada�s richest one per cent. There are plenty of reasons to do so again.�

Among the report�s findings:

Canada, on average, has become a low-tax jurisdiction for the affluent compared to the U.S. When provincial income tax is added to federal income tax, the average total top marginal income tax rate on labour income was 45.7% in 2013. The average top marginal income tax rate across American states was 47.9%.

Special tax treatment for capital gains and dividends and other features of the tax code meant that the top one per cent of Canada�s tax filers actually paid much less than the nominal top 45% marginal tax rate. Averaging over five years, 2008-12, the top one percent (those earning $205,460 or more) paid an average actual tax rate of 33.2%.

Introducing a new 65% marginal tax rate for income in excess of $205,000 would roughly double the current actual marginal tax rate at the top and could yield between $15.8 billion and $19.3 billion in additional tax revenue. The median top one percenter with taxable income of $289,000 would see a $27,000 increase, on average, in taxes.

If capital gains income was also taxed, the yield in additional revenue could be between $21.8 billion and $26.1 billion.

To put these revenue gains in context, in 2012-2013 the total tuition revenue of Canada�s colleges and universities was $8.1 billion and federal infrastructure spending was $5 billion. Total provincial and federal income tax revenue was $176.7 billion.

The paper finds scant evidence that higher top tax rates would prompt a rush of �job creators� or �the best and brightest� to emigrate.

I wonder what Trudeau will do with regard to the partisanship of the CRA auditing process.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 18:04

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Ikantski posted:

So you advocate abolishing tax on the profits of corporations and making that up by massively increasing personal income tax on people making above $30,000?

This is the Nordic model

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 18:46

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Ikantski posted:

But I want to work extra hard and make lots of money?

Own a business, or nfp. Tax shelters, game on.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 19:08

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

I see that the Hydro sale will be Wynne's 407. After all this is said and done, I am not looking forward to the cuts under Brown.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 21:15

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Don't worry about justin, he has more than enough to eat at home.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 21:38

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Hal_2005 posted:

Show of hands, anyone remember what C-51 was ACTUALLY about? Bueller? ....

You quoted nothing related to C-51, nothing
Italy shared wiretaps with us, legitimacy will likely need to be tested to see if it violated charter rights
Mobsters aren't terrorists, terrorism is "bad for business"

tl;dr Get a loving [domestic] warrant for wiretaps shitlord

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 06:15

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Kafka Esq. posted:

I was just going to say, "do you?" But yours was better.

Edit: eugh, Harper's drummer was found guilty of sex acts with a 13 year old. Steve really had no idea who he was working with.

I guess he's sided with the child pornographers :sigh:

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 15:08

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Kafka Esq. posted:

It's easy if they plea bargain!

This only works if you are a Senator

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 16:46

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Ikantski posted:

What a bunch of babies, whining that they're entitled to binding arbitration like doctors in 8 other provinces are. They should just take whatever scraps the province throws them, times are tough, they're lazy and easily replaceable.

If there is no money for teachers/nurses, why should other public sector workers get raises?

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 17:31

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Ikantski posted:

They aren't asking for raises, they're asking to not have their fees cut by 2.6% and again by another 1.3% in one year.

Edit: And teachers and OPP officers did get raises

Net zero raises aren't increases to funding, they are cannibalizing their own budget to pay staff more.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 17:39

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Ikantski posted:

A tad low? I can make 90k as an OPP officer with no post secondary after 3 years on the job or 95k as a school teacher with a bachelor degree in lesbian basket weaving and 2 year B.Ed and I'm only working 8 hours a day, 9 months a year.

I think it's closer to 15% but yeah, part of the allure is the high pay. You're right though, we should open up the system. Let in way more doctors so capitalism can sort it out. To accomplish that, make the med schools for profit enterprises, there's no reason we should be subsidizing these future money havers. If there is such a demand for it, more schools should open to accept the volume. Then we can also stop subsidizing health care because there'll be a guy on every street corner qualified to take out your appendix. Capitalism

To be fair, Teaching is a teachable bachelor 3-4 years and a BEd 2 year.

On the same vein, the doctors shouldn't run their own College whereby they get slaps on the wrist for basically sexual misconduct and whatnot.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2015 19:06

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Ikantski posted:

It's not often that you see an entire post that is wrong but here we are. The dividends don't make a huge difference, here's an example. Yeah, they can dividend out to family members but so can any small corporation and you still need to pay corp tax on that at a minimum. I don't think it's the huge tax loophole you're making it out to be.

You neglect all the benefits of having a corporation, you can deduct pretty much everything. Other posters have pointed out that you can income split between family members, consider some families have more than 2 shareholders :ssh:

Paying family members 40-50k means they pay basically nothing in tax, which you then funnel into a 'family' account afterwards.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2015 23:26

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Rime posted:

Excess of applicants for the foreign investor visa, otherwise known as "buying Canadian citizenship". These guys were planning to turn a ghost town into a passport-mill by abusing that system.

Is this the first you heard of that program? It's existed for quite a while, and only recently had it's citizenship cost increased.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 07:18

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Rime posted:

Holy gently caress are you guys, like, totally retarded, illiterate, or a combination of both?

Of course I know about the loving program, it is the context of this failed scheme which is outrageous.

It's no different than starting a subway or another franchise. The business immigrant investor in both cases parts with their money, however in the case of a franchisee or non-failed business to start they actually stand a chance to recoup the cost of citizenship over time. You're making a big deal out of nothing.

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Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

It's easier to control the message when there is no possibility of an independent way to fact check where he was taking us.

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