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Rougey
Oct 24, 2013
So Turnbull just showed up at the Commodore in North Sydney.

The throng of muppets swarming him is disturbing my lunch.

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Rougey posted:

So Turnbull just showed up at the Commodore in North Sydney.

The throng of muppets swarming him is disturbing my lunch.

I thought he caught trains not cars

Rougey
Oct 24, 2013
It's within spitting distance of the train station so...

Honestly, Camera crews rocked up and I pegged it as a media event, but I was surprised to see our dear leader show up at a pub I equate with really bad decisions.

The publican is probably one of his old mates.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

It's a holden commodore joke.

Rougey
Oct 24, 2013

Amoeba102 posted:

It's a holden commodore joke.

I wish.

At any rate the race is on and the crowd around him is so thick I'd be surprised if he can see the screen.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
We're number 1!

http://www.theage.com.au/business/the-economy/australias-gambling-obsession-in-one-depressing-chart-20150901-gjd2w1.html#ixzz3kYI70hQI

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




For the first time ever a woman jockey won the big horse race, in an industry that is cruel to horses and fuels gambling, at an event that promotes binge drinking culture, in Melbourne, who on winning said "I just want to say to those who say women aren't strong enough, get stuffed"

Way to split the left.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
she probably shouldn't be part of the organised horse murder industry though

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

confused, where is China on that graph?

edit: not suggesting Australia's gambling obsession is real bad but this is the second time one of these graphs have come out explicitly omitting China

thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth
Horse Racing is both cool and good.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

NTRabbit posted:

For the first time ever a woman jockey won the big horse race, in an industry that is cruel to horses and fuels gambling, at an event that promotes binge drinking culture, in Melbourne, who on winning said "I just want to say to those who say women aren't strong enough, get stuffed"

Way to split the left.

You'd have to have a pretty hazy understanding of your own beliefs to be conflicted by this.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




open24hours posted:

You'd have to have a pretty hazy understanding of your own beliefs to be conflicted by this.

So most people then

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

Lid posted:

confused, where is China on that graph?

edit: not suggesting Australia's gambling obsession is real bad but this is the second time one of these graphs have come out explicitly omitting China

Isn't it illegal for a Chinese national to gamble in the mainland? pretty sure these charts are just legal gambling


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Who would have thought women can beat an animal with a stick just as well as a man. Truly a great day for equality.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Zenithe posted:

Who would have thought women can beat an animal with a stick just as well as a man. Truly a great day for equality.

To be fair they're only mostly scaring an animal with the threat of beating them with a stick, because they've been beaten with so many sticks they know how much being beaten with a stick hurts.

Which, I don't know, seems somehow worse.

DAAS Kapitalist
Nov 9, 2005

Jackass: The Mad Monk

Don't try this at home.
The racing industry also has a long history of treating women about as well as it treats horses.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
The media will write about equality in sports. Meanwhile a horse gets stuffed into the back of a Ute to be taken back for more bone breaking training.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

DAAS Kapitalist posted:

The racing industry also has a long history of treating women about as well as it treats horses.

A damning condemnation of their treatment of horses.

Ahh Yes
Nov 16, 2004
>_>
I bet 2 bucks on her to win, so all is well imo.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
horses are people too!

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Birdstrike posted:

horses are people too!



Of course, of course.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

norp posted:

Isn't it illegal for a Chinese national to gamble in the mainland? pretty sure these charts are just legal gambling


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China

They just go to Macau

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
You say that like those that can afford to go to Macau would cause more than a tiny blip on the per capita figures of a country the size of China.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

open24hours posted:

Replace them with robot horses.

Motorbike racing doesn't have the entrenched gambling culture they want though

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Splode posted:

Motorbike racing doesn't have the entrenched gambling culture they want though

They're just not pushing it hard enough.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
is there some way we could get motorbikes to feel pain

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Seagull posted:

is there some way we could get motorbikes to feel pain

show them your post history

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Seagull posted:

is there some way we could get motorbikes to feel pain

:drat:

Birdstrike posted:

show them your post history

:vince:

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i saw a guy pop a wheelie on his kawasaki on dandenong rd today. i tracked him down and sucked his hot dick.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Orkin Mang posted:

i saw a guy pop a wheelie on his kawasaki on dandenong rd today. i tracked him down and sucked his hot dick.

I saw a guy suck off a guy who popped a wheelie on his kawasaki on dandenong rd today. I tried to track him down to suck his dick but lost him in traffic.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service

Rougey posted:

So Turnbull just showed up at the Commodore in North Sydney.

If he was a true man of the people he would be at the Crowie.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Man Ninja model motorbikes are everywhere. Literally the cockaroach of the roads.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

If he was a true man of the people he would be at the Crowie.

gently caress the Crowie.

Longy all the way.

AgentF
May 11, 2009

Anidav posted:

Man Ninja model motorbikes are everywhere. Literally the cockaroach of the roads.
Are the riders wearing helmets?

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

AgentF posted:

Are the riders wearing helmets?

this guy had a purple helmet

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
anyone at the hamishand andy thing yesterday in wederburn i was the guy int he chinos drinking draughts& sneaking wine sips from my friend he,heh,heh

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
fat people should not ride motorbikes

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Springboard into opposition forever.

MEANWHILE!

The common media narrative on the ‘left’ of the Labor Party is that it’s leaders, like Anthony Albanese, are unelectable. John Passant disagrees, both about the electability, and the ‘left’.

Is Labor Party luminary Anthony Albanese too left wing for his party to be electable if he were to replace Bill Shorten and become leader of the Opposition? Many media commentators certainly thinks so.

For example, according to Peter van Onselen in The Australian, Albanese is ‘probably too left wing for mainstream voters. From asylum seeker policies to his liberal attitudes towards social issues, Albanese lives the politics of his inner city electorate. His personality connects with outer metropolitan voters, whereas his politics may not.’

Most Labor Party members would disagree. Sixty percent of them voted for Albanese in the leadership contest. Shorten only won with the backing of the Caucus. It is likely that if a vote on the Labor Party leadership were held now Albanese would increase his membership vote and win more of the caucus vote, possibly making him leader.

So would Albanese lose a general election? It is a common trope of Murdoch papers that anyone left wing is unelectable. The barrage of propaganda against Jeremy Corbyn in the UK from the Murdoch, and to be fair, other media, is a case in point.

However the ascendancy of Corbyn to the leadership of British Labour has seen a massive increase in membership (more than 200,000 new members have joined) and re-energised the grass roots. Not only that but his politics have thrown the Conservatives off and he seems, from afar, to be winning many of the debates.

His pro-working class policies have seen a shift of former Labour Party voters, some of them bedazzled by the racism of UKIP, back to the Labour Party.

And it’s is not just the UK. In January, Greek voters elected the left-wing Syriza Party on an anti-austerity program. Canada has just thrown out the austerity of the Harper government and elected Justin Trudeau and his Liberals on a soft left program. In doing so voters rejected the move to the right by the formerly left wing New Democratic Party.

In the US, Bernie Sanders’ campaign for nomination as the Democratic Party presidential candidate has inspired millions. The more he talks about democratic socialism the more support he wins.

This shift to the left in comparable countries shows that various radical and progressive ideas can win support. This is not surprising. Poll after poll shows that on most economic and social issues Australian voters are well to the left of their politicians.

This helps explain the widespread dissatisfaction with neoliberal Labor in particular, and politics more generally in Australia. Given the right circumstances, a number of the disaffected and disillusioned would flock to a credible left wing party with anti-austerity and pro-working class policies.

The other problem in this ‘Albanese is unelectable’ propaganda is to imagine Albanese is left wing. That term in the Labor Party context does not reflect deep ideological differences over policy and the nature of Australian society.

Left and right in the ALP are now more about tribal divisions than principle. Albanese himself has been a key player both as a Minister and leading member of the party in its degeneration to the anaemic, scared of its own shadow party the ALP now is, bereft of any working class politics.

Indeed, at times the Party has been better able to deliver shifts in wealth from labour to capital than the conservatives could ever imagine.

Labor would not be unelectable under Albanese, especially if he adopted a left cover. However if elected to government Albanese’s real neoliberal agenda would become clear to people and they would reject it and him too, just as they rejected the neoliberalism of Tony Abbott and may well do of Malcolm Turnbull, given time and the lived experience of the deleterious impact of his anti-working class policies.

A genuine left wing party of the working class in Australia has not yet developed. Until it does we will remain in the Sisyphean oscillations between neoliberal Labor and pro-austerity Liberal governments.

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Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
Otoh uk labour is 1-0 down to a pigfucker

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