AusPol November: "love your neighbour, unless they're brown"

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hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Seagull posted:

never have i been more disrespected

RIP Captain Seagull.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 05:37

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:54

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Grouchio posted:

So is Australia still going to hell in a handbasket because Turnbull sucks only slightly less than Abbot, and because China won't stop imploding fiscally?

We could survive one maybe, but not both.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 09:12

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Les Affaires posted:

Either way, Prince Philip can be all "gently caress you, got one's" about his knightship.

Pretty sure if you're a prince you don't give a single poo poo about some backwater knightship you got granted by a huge idiot.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:06

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Nibbles! posted:

If you're going to raise the GST and then compensate those under x income why don't you just...... raise taxes on those earning over x income?

Most likely as it will be easier to rip the compensation away later.

Exactly this.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:45

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Anyone who cares that our democracy is compromised by foreign meddling is already well aware that our democracy is compromised by foreign meddling without this coming to light (TPP, ISDS, F-35 etc.).

Everyone else doesn't care.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 03:02

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Front Cover Stories on the West.

Fuckheads posted:

BEGGAR BOOM
Begging in central Perth has become so rife that visitors avoid parts of the city and business owners are considering shutting their stores.

Local retailers say most beggars are chasing money for drugs which they use in the city�s carparks or on the streets.

Documents obtained by The West Australian under Freedom of Information laws last year revealed a reported rise in �forceful and co-ordinated� begging that City of Perth parking officers suspected was drug-related.

In August last year, Lord Mayor Lisa Scaffidi met Attorney-General Michael Mischin, Police Minister Liza Harvey and Police Commissioner Karl O�Callaghan to discuss policing and legislative solutions, including outlawing begging.

Begging is illegal in most States in Australia but WA�s laws were repealed in 2004.

The meeting resulted in the formation of a working group that was expected to produce a report by the end of last year, but it is now unclear when it will be released.

More than 14 months after that meeting,The West returned to the city to speak to business owners and find out if the situation had changed.

We found the practice of begging � both passive and active � had increased dramatically.

There were at least 10 beggars in the train station precinct and more dotted throughout the city, particularly near the Pier Street carpark.

Some sit behind signs that tell passers-by they are homeless, pregnant or terminally ill.

Others approach strangers and ask for cash, seemingly targeting young women, seniors and foreigners.

Shop owners near the Pier Street carpark say they are helpless to stop the area degenerating further without more police patrols.

Having grown familiar with the daily routine, shop owners are under no illusion about the motivation of most of the beggars � drugs.

They say the City of Perth�s new CitiWatch surveillance program has proved ineffective and their complaints go unheeded.

But Ms Scaffidi said the council had received fewer complaints about antisocial behaviour around carparks in the past 14 months.

�Increased security measures at City of Perth carparks include static guards at carparks where the highest volume of antisocial behaviour has been identified, namely Pier Street, Citiplace and the State Library,� she said.

�The City has also increased mobile security presence across all City-operated carparks.�

Ms Scaffidi said people who wanted to help the needy should donate to registered charities.

Fall asleep on the train tracks posted:

Regular beggars are not so hungry
He sits there day in, day out, texting or talking on his mobile phone while compassionate strangers drop coins in his cup.

Sheltered by an electrical box metres from the pay stations at the Pier Street carpark, he is well placed to attract spare change.

They say beggars can�t be choosers but donations of food and drink are left to spoil in the sun.

Local business owners say the man treats begging as a full-time job and reaps substantial rewards.

�He drives in to South Perth and catches the ferry across because he doesn�t want to pay the parking,� one shop owner says.

�He smokes, talks on his mobile phone � there are people working who wouldn�t have the money to spend that he�s got.

�Up to $200 a day is what I�ve been told and I believe it.�

When the man realises he is being watched byThe West Australian , he shoots furtive glances in our direction before leaving the area.

There is no evidence this beggar is spending money on drugs but his actions are questionable to say the least.

Younger beggars who loiter on the footpath and in the alley nearby are less aware of their surroundings.

They, too, seem uninterested in gifts other than cash and there�s a straightforward reason for that, according to retailers who did not want to be named for fear of reprisals.

�They�re begging for drugs,� one says. �You try to give them food and they don�t want food.

�Sometimes it�s the nice guy method � �G�day sir, could you spare a few dollars� � but when they�re a bit more strung out, it can be more aggressive.

�They pick the mark, too, usually an older person or Asians are a favourite target because they can be a bit meeker.�

The shop owner says the Pier Street carpark and toilets are popular places for dealing and taking drugs.

He knows because he sees it happen every day.

His testimony is verified by following one of the blurry-eyed young men into the toilets and hearing the �click click� of a lighter coming from a cubicle.

The shop owner says he sympathises with the parking officers and cleaners because he has seen them deal with everything from racial abuse to a man brandishing a used syringe.

�They�re scaring away the normal people,� he says.

Another shop owner says she is closing her business because of declining sales, shoplifting and the antisocial element outside.

�One hundred per cent (they buy drugs) � it�s right there on their face,� she says.

She believes there is a degree of organisation to the beggars with cardboard signs because she has seen one who carries a book full of names and times.

A few hundred metres away at Perth railway station, beggars with cardboard signs are covering all entrances.

On the walkway between the station and the Art Gallery of WA, four beggars take turns swigging from a goon bag.

The sign in front of them reads, �Homeless and pregnant. Any spare change is appreciated for food and accommodation.�

On the main concourse of the railway station, two young men appear to be working as a pair and pointing out potential targets.

One with bleached hair and a neck tattoo asks a group of young women for cash for a train fare, claiming his bag has been stolen from the State Library.

He then moves on to an older couple, repeats the story and receives more money.

When his friend realises they are being watched, he becomes aggressive and confrontational.

At the Citiplace car park pay stations, parking officers are speaking to a man asking people for spare change.

One of the officers approaches The West Australian and asks why we are there and whether we have the City of Perth�s approval.

Despite what his colleague is dealing with over his shoulder, he describes the issue as a "beat-up".

Shoppers and shop owners disagree.

The West: Australia's Worst Newspaper.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 03:57

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Solemn Sloth posted:

athenian democracy or bust

Our democracy is headed for an athenian bust.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 16:15

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freebooter posted:

So I guess it turns out they don't bury the bodies of the asylum seekers who drown at sea after all

Soylent Browns.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 02:25

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Holy poo poo. It's real!

That looks like a perfectly fine meal once you pick out the human teeth. Also they have internet on their phones!

Poor_people_fridges.jpg

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 03:46

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Zenithe posted:

Who would have thought women can beat an animal with a stick just as well as a man. Truly a great day for equality.

To be fair they're only mostly scaring an animal with the threat of beating them with a stick, because they've been beaten with so many sticks they know how much being beaten with a stick hurts.

Which, I don't know, seems somehow worse.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 06:20

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DAAS Kapitalist posted:

The racing industry also has a long history of treating women about as well as it treats horses.

A damning condemnation of their treatment of horses.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 06:27

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Seagull posted:

is there some way we could get motorbikes to feel pain

Birdstrike posted:

show them your post history

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 08:07

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Orkin Mang posted:

i saw a guy pop a wheelie on his kawasaki on dandenong rd today. i tracked him down and sucked his hot dick.

I saw a guy suck off a guy who popped a wheelie on his kawasaki on dandenong rd today. I tried to track him down to suck his dick but lost him in traffic.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 08:26

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Can't even pay their jackbooted murdering thugs correctly mr speakah.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 04:43

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Orkin Mang posted:

my new chin mods disagree

Orkin Mang, shitposter. A mang barely alive. Mods, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic dickchin. Orkin Mang will be that poster. Shitter than he was before. Longer...thicker...poster."

The 6 Million Dollar Dickchin.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 11:01

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freebooter posted:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...106-gkt0mo.html

I am so loving tired of this poo poo. Stop pretending, stop bullshitting, stop acting like you care. Just admit what this is really about.

I like that former liberal prime ministers are now more left wing than former labor ones.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 11:51

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Scott Ludlam and Julian Assange discussing despair and defiance.

Worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVGf9EV55aY

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 19:51

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SwissCM posted:

I've attempted suicide in the past because of me perceiving my disability as a "burden" on others. Literally the word I used.

I'm really sorry to hear that, and that reasoning is pretty common. The vast majority of our newspaper industry deserves to be taken out the back and loving shot.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 03:15

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Vladimir Poutine posted:

No one on the DSP should feel like they're a burden because it's an infinitely better use of money than the billions of dollars of subsidies given to the mining industry or the money wasted by investor welfare like negative gearing.

Far better investment than torturing refugees. The whole reason I pay tax and the whole reason I agree with a social welfare system is that it makes it better for everyone. Everyone benefits from the pool of money that we put into the government, and people on the DSP are just benefiting from our decision to socially fund things like everyone else does. There's no burden, there's no guilt, no more than anyone driving on a state funded road should feel, or going to a public hospital.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 03:40

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Graic Gabtar posted:

I guess he should stayed where he was then.

That's assuming he wasn't intending to check out.

He probably should have never left him home country where he was at risk of torture and murder as well.

Honestly, probably shouldn't have even been born, should have just self aborted.

Really he brought it all on himself.

Congratulations on your response being the emotional equivalent of a prolapse I guess.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 12:00

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

If you aren't storming Berlin to shoot Hitler in the face you shouldn't be writing articles about how it's pretty bad that he's slaughtering all the jews, gays, roma, performers, academics and political opponents.

If you aren't chained to a tree, you shouldn't talk about deforestation.

If you aren't batman, you shouldn't talk about crime.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 04:01

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Negligent posted:

When they came for the jews, I posted about it on the forums.

Checkmate, Hitler

The reason I post about this stuff here is to use this place as a knowledge bank. There are some really well educated people in this thread, and we pool our knowledge to be able to take it out into the world. I volunteer for the greens, I talk to my friends about refugee issues, I encourage people to vote for the greens, I go to protests about refugee issues. I resist misinformation and confusion with information and facts. The people posting here have taught me a lot of stuff that I use to try and change the thoughts and discussion about refugees in Australia.

So when you say "post about it on forums" you don't realise that it actaully helps. It means I'm aware of how many refugees we've killed, of how many boats we've turned back, of how much damage we're doing so I can educate others, because I see that as a social responsibility.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 04:17

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Negligent posted:

I believe the government is torturing people but I'm not Batman so I'll just post about it on the internet.

Those children in detention will be so grateful that I gave myself a pat on the back for taking the time out of my busy schedule to write some words about their suffering for other people to read and also do nothing about.

Together, we can truly salve each other's consciences while mutually reassuring one another that we couldn't possibly do anything more to help.

I know, I'll throw poo poo at people who post on the internet about things they feel powerless to change but hate that the country does. That makes me better than those drat slacktivists.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 09:36

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SeekOtherCandidate posted:

auspol ~insider~ update: the australian greens just had their national conference, it was cool + good and we updated something like a thousand policies (not an overstatement though a lot were quite small wordsmithing changes) including some very excellent moves on palestine and housing and basically fixed everything except for drugs which we'll probably do at may.

of particular interest to the forum is the ever-growing contingent of goons (at least four by my count, making it the gooniest political conference in this hosed-up country's history) and the fact that according to the national secretary who has contacts in the alp through his union connections i'm apparently considered a "factional warlord" which: fukken lmao

Groon Faction

For: Neckbeards, Arguments, Bicycle Helmets.
Against: Washing, Bicycle Helmets.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 10:52

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thatbastardken posted:

Yeah sounds good, I'll be the faceless man.

Too gendered, Faceless Person.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 11:26

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Anidav posted:

Walker Texas Instruments Ranger.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 02:04

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Ever_growing_ironicat.gif

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 05:59

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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Dudes, I love to walk.

I love dudes.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 07:35

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

I think that advocacy of genocide provision is going to be the doom of all of us.

Kill whitey.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 09:21

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iajanus posted:

Only if we run the country like a big game of Mafia.

##Vote Hambeet

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 15:03

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Filthy loving, dirty cheating, money stealing unionists.

*spits on picketer on his way into the asbestos mine*

If unions should be held to the same standards as companies, should companies be held to the same standards as unions?

Feder... al... ICAC.... now?

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 03:06

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Orkin Mang posted:

*goes for honk*
*achievs shorten*

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 05:08

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Bifauxnen posted:

I have had actual engaging debate and discussion with Graic on an occasion, or a couple others back in the day, by deploying the shocking strategy of appearing willing to debate and discuss. The constant drone of "don't talk to so-and-so" is easily as tiresome as any of their posts and is a big reason I barely post here except in occasional spurts. What is there to say to the people who already agree with me on almost everything, except chatter better suited for the crew thread?

Cartoons suggestion of just addressing their arguments indirectly is a good one, if you're that convinced that someone is completely hopeless to engage with.

(That said, Neglijerry can still get stuffed.)

The problem is that it generally isn't a debate and discuss, it's a shitpost, shift the goalposts, fall back on "common wisdom" and then go silent strategy. That's not debate and discussion. That's shitposting, and shitposters should be ignored.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 15:49

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BBJoey posted:

at least with business as usual there's a variety of shitposts between infodumps, as opposed when graic is engaged in a circular argument that goes on for 10 pages. I think most people can tolerate the former but when the latter occurs my brain just switches off and blindly scrolls through each page, missing any and all Actual Good Posts (rare as they are) in the process.

someone should post the chess argument analogy. not me though I'm just the ideas guy.

DO NOT STEAL.

Actually Goodes joining the ALP would be a pretty good litmus test based on the response.

Disappointed in ALP : Racist
Disappointed in Goodes: Non racist

hooman fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 12, 2015

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 01:13

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Cartoon posted:

Not sure what you are addressing or asking for justification of.

Paperworkless arrests I believe.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 02:04

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

I really like that bicycle helmets and lever action shotguns is what has libertarian idiots up in arms in this country.

Unlike things like 4 hour, paperless detention for things like swearing.

Australia has problems with the state, but believe me when I say the destructive part of that problem isn't "nanny".

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 03:38

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open24hours posted:

What do you call those people anyway? Champagne socialists are to socialism what lifestyle libertarians are to liberty?

I really like the term "Lifestyle Libertarians". That is great.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 03:52

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starkebn posted:

I'm with Negligent on this one. Give me as many potatoes at I can shovel down my gob without regulation.

RIP from inevitable potato plague.

# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 05:38

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Bill Shorten: Crashing in the polls and into poles.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2015 02:55

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:54

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SynthOrange posted:

Muslim Party 'will divide nation' says the grandmother behind the Love Australia or Leave Party.

But what if I already love "the cock"? There isn't room in my heart for two huge groups of dicks.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2015 05:45

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