AusPol November: "love your neighbour, unless they're brown"

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Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

Kyrgyzstan is lovely this time of year

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 15:32

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 23:35

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

Dame Quentin Bryce, aka Bill Shortens mother in law

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:14

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# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:20

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VAT is highest in countries like Sweden, Norway and Denmark (25%). Malcolm Turnbull is actually a closet socialist.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:46

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Australians were so incensed by the palace intrigue that they elected Fraser in a landslide.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 03:21

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Worst crisis Australian democracy has ever faced, results in orderly election of new government

Start sharpening the guillotines

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 03:24

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starkebn posted:

Nah mate, Greens are just tree huggers with no policies

there is no reasonable explanation for not liking nuclear power

everyone loves nuclear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU-OycAb_Lg

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 14:40

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Yeah but that guy would say that, he's a wog

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 03:14

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fat people should not ride motorbikes

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 11:05

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Otoh uk labour is 1-0 down to a pigfucker

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 12:23

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if Dyson Heydon announced that Bill Shorten hosed a dead pig's head at uni it would probably improve Bill's approval rating

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 12:40

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

could be worse

could wait until middle age and buy a harley

otoh darwinism in action

Negligent fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Nov 3, 2015

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 15:06

Negligent: Aug 20, 2013; Its just lovely here this time of year.

the LAMS scheme does that anyway. keeps kids off litrebikes for year. the best selling ninja is the 250/300. you could buy one if you saved your youth allowance they are cheap as

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 15:57

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Name of country + name of religion + "lobby" is a known formula for having good logical opinions

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 05:06

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Annabel Crabb wrote a 100 page Turnbull bio/love letter a couple of years ago. She is the Andrew Bolt to his Tony Abbott.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 07:50

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David lion helm sucks tho

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 09:32

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lion helm comes off a production line of sandstone uni, student activism, traditional profession, consultant,

so, while he has the cv of an ordinary tory politician, because he is a lolbertarian nutbar he is different enough to be a valuable outsider because what we need is more people trolling ray hadley on twitter

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 10:49

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David Leyonhjelm ‏@DavidLeyonhjelm 8h8 hours ago
My advice to Ray Hadley and anyone concerned about being called a bastard, including coppers, is don�t be a bastard.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 10:52

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my name is A J Abbott and I'm here to help

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 13:10

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Australia would be vastly improved by deporting all the white people

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 03:11

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Australia has the equal 2nd lowest rate of consumption tax in the OECD

Notoriously poor-hating countries such as Finland have 24%, Denmark and Norway have 25%, Sweden 27% VAT.

Checkmate leftards

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 03:43

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In bill shortens younger days he organised an event where a bunch of members go to a pub with a tab as incentive and then go across to the road and vote. Predictably, they never made it, so he learned his lesson. Get them to vote first

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 05:39

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Julia Gillard calls for greater efforts to educate refugee children, chokes to death on own hypocrisy

ok i made up that last part. but her government did gently caress all for refugees

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 11:18

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Tl;dr Old reactors are old, new reactors are expensive, welp better give up nucfailures

Literally a list of dumb theories based on the wrong evidence. Seriously why does it matter that Canada's reactors are old? Jfc.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 03:15

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Dude talks about the human cost, okay fine, where are those nice cheap solar panels made?

China.

In huge factories using electricity generated by coal.

By workers who are literally choking to death on the air they breathe.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 03:22

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importing cheap turbines and solar panels from China will never ever backfire. like for example at night and when it's not windy there will still be good old coal

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:15

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You could always build more hydro oh wait you're the Greens your party was literally built on opposition to dams.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:20

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Birdstrike posted:

Australia had a decent renewables manufacturing industry, negating the import non-issue, before the government scrapped the RET

Bullshit, walk up to any pv panel in Australia and it will say made in China.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:22

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Wind works when there is wind

Solar works when the sun is up

Hydro works when there is water

Nuclear always works.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:25

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tithin posted:

Sort of a disingenuous argument mate, the sun will continue to rise, the wind will continue to blow, and I don't foresee any shortage of ocean any time soon. Exactly the opposite?

Almost as though having multiple sources is renewable power is a good thing?

it's not disingenuous, you're taking about a different time scale.

There is no way of getting around baseload power generation to meet round the clock demand.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:42

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Birdstrike posted:

Today your ravings are even dumber than usual. Did you fall into some nuclear waste?

Source

Renewable energy, Aussie job creator

You found 1 company that builds the turbine towers (ie the metal stick part) to refute a claim that pv panels are made in China. Good job talking past the point i guess?

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:45

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I think you will find that even if an Australian company builds the metal pole the other parts of the thing including the actual turbine itself are not made here. But good job copy pasting the first hit on Google

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 04:59

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Frogfingers posted:

There won't be a grid in like 50 years. Even business could generate and sell rooftop solar with enough panels and batteries available today. If anything, big power draws like factories (if they're still around) or shops will probably buy power from the neighbourhood. But it won't be interconnected on a state level any more. The power industry is done, the only thing it can do is switch to renewable products and put in some planned obsolescence features to sustain itself.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 05:54

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The idea of every building having its own solar cell/windmill is even dumber than the prediction of every house having it's own nuclear reactor and that was loving retarded.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 07:55

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Why have sewers when we can all have grids

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 07:55

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Frogfingers posted:

It's electricity that pays for itself. Solar power is going to be the next '99.8% of "poor people" have fridges'.

Yeah and it was awesome when no one had toilets that were connected to the sewer. Each building had it's own outhouse.

That awesome siloed model will totally work for electricity in an increasingly networked world and not fall down at all in situations where, for example, your building is in shadow. Which is like, a lot of buildings in cities with even modest density.

There are so many goddamn things wrong with your "solar for everyone" theory that have nothing to do with the price of acquisition.

Negligent fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Nov 6, 2015

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 09:17

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Frogfingers posted:

Yeah I just posed this exact problem in another post I made. The answer is obviously nuclear powered windmills.

It's like your dad got a grant to put solar panels on the roof and then you read about the tesla battery thing and now gently caress yeah free electricity!!!!1111

Except, all of the nopes.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 09:24

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bottled water is a fact of life in countries where you cant use the same water for a) drinking b) flushing your turds

wouldnt expect a white person to understand

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 10:57

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most Australians arent actually anti-refugee.

when it was announced we would take 12,000 Syrian refugees at a cost of $700m no one batted an eye. in fact I think there were even calls to take more.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2015/november/1446296400/robert-manne/slow-death

quote:

Without the close attention that many thousands of dedicated asylum-seeker supporters have paid over the past two years, the suffering being experienced by the 1500 people on Nauru and Manus Island would most likely have been ignored in Australia. For this, the highest praise is due. Pressure is mounting daily in the campaign to bring the asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus Island to Australia. So far, however, their supporters have seemed incapable of arguing the kind of case that has any chance of convincing the politicians or the military and intelligence officials in Canberra to revoke the Rudd�Abbott decision never to settle these refugees in Australia. While Abbott was prime minister this case would have had zero chance of success. Under Malcolm Turnbull there is some prospect of its eventually being considered. A plausible case, resting on more than compassion, is now needed.

Such a case should, I believe, begin with the recognition that Australians are not, in general, redneck racists hostile to refugees. What historical experience and evidence of the opinion polls have shown is that Australians� hostility is not to refugees but to asylum seekers who arrive spontaneously by boat. This is not a recent phenomenon. Under Malcolm Fraser, it was politically easier for the government to settle 70,000 Indochinese refugees selected by Australian officials from the camps of South-East Asia than it was for it to accept the 2000 Vietnamese who arrived in Darwin by sea. Professor Andrew Markus has conducted important empirical research for the Scanlon Foundation that consistently shows Australians are, on balance, favourably disposed to refugees but hostile to asylum-seeker boat arrivals.

If anything, over time that opinion has hardened. On this question, public opinion and the policies of both the Coalition and Labor are now settled. No government in Australia will do what the supporters of the asylum seekers want: to once more open Australia�s borders to boats. Many supporters believe that the enthusiasm shown for the Abbott government�s decision to accept 12,000 Syrians shows that the tide of opinion has turned on the refugee question. This represents a category mistake, a failure to understand the difference between opinion on spontaneous asylum-seeker boat arrivals and orderly refugee programs under government control.

Australians are very supportive of orderly arrival of people who are genuine refugees.

most refugee advocates dont understand this. they accuse the average Australian of racism and somehow think that namecalling will work. it's not about race. its about a perception of fairness.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 13:49

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 23:35

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game of thrones is alright

the tv show that is. the guy who wrote the book looks incredibly goony

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 15:27

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