AusPol November: "love your neighbour, unless they're brown"

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Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Doctor Spaceman posted:

It's true, they've completely gotten away with it without anybody noticing or caring.

I woke up this morning and the gst was 100% and nobody said a fuckim thing what the gently caress m8

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 09:26

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Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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MaliciousOnion posted:

So in order to offset the GST hike they'll increase concessions to low income earners and the unemployed?

lol

# ¿ Nov 1, 2015 15:18

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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MysticalMachineGun posted:

What's the point of tax breaks for low income earners if for the next six months their already on the edge grocery bills go up? Wow, it'll be great in July/August when we get an extra ten bucks back, shame I've gone without toilet paper since January.

They're not going to give low income earners tax breaks.

Also Turnbull is getting rid of knights and dames. Smart move, makes idiot swing voters and labor voters caught up in the cult of mal think he is undoing Abbotts damage without doing anything to the policies which actually gently caress up the country and world.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 00:14

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Vladimir Poutine posted:

Australian swing voters are the most racist people in the southern hemisphere, barring maybe some group of fat Boer Pride guys circling the drain somewhere in South Africa one glass of Carling Black Label away from death.

idk I find a lot of the real racist south africans left the country and moved to perth.

As to who is first against the wall? Just turn the whole continent to glass.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 00:39

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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open24hours posted:

Of course the Queen agrees. If she didn't she wouldn't Queen for long.

She has managed to stay on another 40 years after involvement in a coup against a democratically elected australian government so I don't think knights and dames was going to be the tipping point m8

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 01:57

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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open24hours posted:

Is there anything to substantiate that?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...023-gkhb1a.html

quote:

John Kerr decided to remove Gough Whitlam in the week before the Dismissal and was in secret discussion about this with Malcolm Fraser.

This is the most explosive revelation of a new book that throws in doubt the 40-year-old claim that the Governor-General acted alone.

Monash University political scientist Jenny Hocking said new research showed Kerr acted with the foreknowledge and implied consent of the Queen, and with the knowledge of the Chief Justice of the High Court of Australia Sir Garfield Barwick, High Court justice Sir Anthony Mason and the Leader of the Opposition to oust a democratically elected government.

She said the West Australian Liberal senator Reg Withers had left a posthumous record of communications between Kerr and Fraser in a previously unpublished interview conducted two decades after the dismissal and embargoed until after his death.

"Withers reveals that not only had Kerr decided to act against Whitlam in the week before 11 November 1975, but that both he and Fraser knew this," Professor Hocking said.

"Withers confirms that the Governor-General and the Leader of the Opposition were in secret telephone contact, using their secure private numbers.

"Withers recounts that he was in Fraser's office in early November when Kerr contacted Fraser, using the private number for the Leader of the Opposition's parliamentary office.

"'Nobody knew what his private number was except Tamie'," Withers said.

"Fraser told the caller that he could be contacted on that number at any time ... Fraser then asked the caller for their number, repeating as he wrote it down, 'I can also ring you on his number?.... As Fraser hung up he said to Withers. 'You never heard this conversation'."

Professor Hocking said the secret communication was the most serious possible breach of the central constitutional and political relationship in a parliamentary democracy that the Governor-General acts on the advice of the Prime Minister, not the Opposition Leader.

Whitlam died a year ago last Wednesday, Fraser last March, and Professor Hocking's book, The Dismissal Dossier: Everything You Were Never Meant To Know About November 1975 comes out on the eve of the 40th anniversary of what many people still believe to be the biggest political crisis in Australian history.

In another revelation from a long-embargoed interview, Fraser challenges our fundamental understanding of the dismissal of the Whitlam government in relation to the question of Supply.

"It now appears that the very basis of Whitlam's dismissal, and Fraser's appointment, as Prime Minister � the need to secure Supply � was a constitutional and political charade," Professor Hocking said.

"In this previously unpublished interview Fraser makes the extraordinary claim that the provision of Supply was not in fact a condition of his appointment as Prime Minister at all." Fraser makes this devastating admission in his interview conducted in 1987 with former Labor Minister Clyde Cameron for the National Library of Australia that has only recently been made available. "Asked specifically whether the provision of Supply was a condition of his appointment as Prime Minister, Fraser replied without any hesitation, 'No, it wasn't'.

"In a further dramatic historical unravelling Fraser then revealed that, even had he not secured Supply through the Senate on the afternoon of 11 November 1975, Kerr would not have dismissed him as Prime Minister and that he would have gone to the 1975 election as Prime Minister, without Supply. A shocked Clyde Cameron drew out the implications of this startling exchange in his immediate response to Fraser: 'You would have gone to an election without Supply, and you would have been in breach of one of the conditions that Kerr had laid down.' Fraser did not disagree with this, suggesting that the Coalition might even have won a few more seats had he done so.

"Despite Kerr's insistence that securing Supply was at the heart of the dismissal, Fraser maintained that his own failure to secure Supply would not have led to his dismissal and that Kerr would not have dismissed him for a denial of Supply as he had dismissed Whitlam: 'I don't think the Governor-General would have had much other course � I think it would have been a little difficult sacking a second (laughing) Prime Minister and re-appointing the first one sacked'."

Professor Hocking said that Kerr's private papers clearly show that the Palace knew that Kerr was considering the dismissal months before it happened. The Palace did not counsel Kerr against the dismissal scenario, did not advise him to warn Whitlam of the possibility of dismissal and, most significantly, did not themselves alert Whitlam to the fact that the matter had been raised by the Governor-General.

She said the Queen's private secretary Martin Charteris had also written to Kerr establishing a "secret arrangement" between the Palace and Yarralumla to delay acting on the advice of the Prime Minister to recall the Governor-General, should Whitlam have decided to remove Kerr.

"This extraordinary vice-regal manoeuvring presents Whitlam as a political ingenue, utterly unaware that among those he considered nothing more than post-colonial monarchal relics, his future was being determined with all the calculated anti-democratic sentiment of monarchs through the ages," she said.

In her 2012 book, Gough Whitlam: His Time, Professor Hocking revealed the critical document in Kerr's private papers describing the pivotal role that High Court Justice Sir Anthony Mason had played in advising Kerr over several months prior to the dismissal, although he remained a shadowy presence in the political crisis for four decades.

In response, Sir Anthony has said he told Kerr he should warn Whitlam before terminating his commission and the first he knew that Whitlam had not been warned was when he read the news reports on November 11.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 02:13

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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The queen is basically tolerated on the understanding that she behaves purely as a ceremonial figure. These revelations indicate that this is not what actually happens.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 03:12

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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LNP definition of regressive taxes is taxes on things that actually matter like businesses and real estate.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 07:06

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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So what are the greens actual policies re roads and development in Brisbane

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 09:35

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Seagull posted:

eric abetz is a senior member of the liberal party

also weren't a number of labor ministers in the previous government cia informants?

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 12:04

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Lid posted:

over on sky news the australians for constitutional monarchy have come out of their cacoon to announce Turnbull removing Knights/Dames is republicanism by stealth

as to why abbott putting the honours back in thats allowed because he was the prime minister and that gave him the peoples mandate to have done so

yes

plebiscites on everything!

athenian democracy or bust

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 15:03

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Birb Katter posted:

AFR runs story saying NTATA called Gillard after getting rolled by his own party and Gillard ignored the call. While his heart and his mind may say he didn't make this phone call the facts may say otherwise.

when u call bae and she screens

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 23:45

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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who among us has not on at least two occasions served human teeth to people in our care

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 01:54

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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jesus gently caress that made me actually wince

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 01:59

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Anidav posted:

The article also implies they didn't even check for insects until teeth were found.

Now they remove the insects.

Maybe the teeth were the work of a false flag operation by the parasitic advocacy industrial complex, now that insects have been removed from the food no doubt some disgusting opportunistic lefties will be complaining about the drop of protein in the food. Makes me loving sick.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 02:13

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Birb Katter posted:

This needs to get out there, racists need to know they have a pro islam, pro immigration tattoo.

Quick tell hitler he is actually Buddhist that'll learn him

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 03:13

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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What do you think of the pay dispute between the border force and immigration minister peter dutton?

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 03:12

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Guys did you know Jesus was Jewish :aaaaa:

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 06:19

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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leyonhjelm obviously chasing the auspol vote

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 09:13

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Seagull posted:

it's hosed up that leyonhjelm is actually muyb

e: gently caress

I actually have a head of hair which is both luxurious and nutritious. Also cats are poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 09:19

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Woah weird rich man proposes tax to benefit rich at expense of poor

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 23:54

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Birb Katter posted:

In today's edition of "Why was this America and not Australia"

democracy stubby

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 05:12

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Renewables are useless unless you dumbo lefties have discovered some magical way to store energy in another form so checkmate

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 10:18

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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I bought myself a water bottle to refill and reuse because I want to pretend I am being environment conscious while not having to face the horror of being more than one second from potable water at any stage in my life.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 12:06

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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I guess children trying to kill themselves is just a speedbump on the road to racial purity

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 12:23

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Personally I'm shocked that someone who likes anime, game of thrones and eve online is actually a piece of poo poo.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 15:11

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Institute capital punishment for corrupt union officials imo. Unions are loving vital in protecting the needs of workers and these fucks undermine the whole process for their own personal gain.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 07:35

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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So is Birb snorten not corrupt or just not being referred to police for corruption

# ¿ Nov 7, 2015 09:49

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Other hot takes from Henry Ergas: we should only accept Christian migrants, we should abolish capital gains tax, the productivity commission is too leftist, negative gearing is good for everyone.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 07:22

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Hey this economy seems to be at risk of recession *raises consumption taxes, lowers unearned income taxes*

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 07:23

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Birdstrike posted:

just lol at susan lay wanting to get rid of medicare and give the alp something to stand for

it's not giving rid of medicare it's just giving people more options :mensch:

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 01:55

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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my stepdads beer posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-10/car-free-melbourne-city-council-considers-12-hour-ban/6926072

how dare you suggest we not drive into the CBD on a sunday

I too think that the disabled should stay the gently caress out of my CBD

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 03:10

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Birb Katter posted:

Given the disabled are a billion dollar drain on this country this is a good idea.

Surely you want to draw them into a central area for relocation. This is counterproductive

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 03:22

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Not sure if trying to split turnbal from conservatives or just stupid

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 03:24

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Honestly I don't see why we need judges at all, let's just let police, bureaucrats and spies decide guilt of all crimes

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 10:19

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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I'm guessing this must be a regulatory change rather than legislative then, given it's been made solely in the senate?

# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 23:44

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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norp posted:

The article says it has to go back to the house. Presumably they have altered an existing bill that's passed the house already

oh, missed that. In that case all the talk of it being such a grand victory in the fight against tax evasion seems like horseshit.

"Both bits of legislation are part of the same law, and when it gets back to the House of Reps, they may be voted down. Even with the government's 90-55 majority, the Coalition may agree to one or both, as it is no doubt more sheepish about helping billionaires and multinationals hide their wealth while simultaneously riding shotgun for the GST, a tax which hits lowest income earners hardest."

The idea that the coalition will be shamed into betraying it's primary backers when riding an opinion poll high is pretty laughable.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 00:23

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Why should those chinese with enough money to import babby food be given that opportunity when clearly the most needy are those who can't afford to pay formula smugglers

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 06:42

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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If you are a boss and you can ring one person who sometimes gives sexual favours or another person who sometimes says sorry i have a partner or I've got a headache, should there be an actual law against picking up the phone and calling the first person by preference.

If you are a boss and you can ring one person who almost always says yes or another person who sometimes says actually you need to be paying money into my super fund even though I'm a casual employee, should there be an actual law against picking up the phone and calling the first person by preference.

If you are a boss and you can ring one person who almost always says yes or another person who sometimes says sorry you need to provide me with a mask even if you promise it's only a little asbestosy in there, should there be an actual law against picking up the phone and calling the first person by preference.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 06:46

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:36

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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they should just get in the automated checkout queue like everyone else

# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 06:55

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