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Tesseraction posted:Likewise the way that at no point does Four Lions make fun of Islam itself, but on perceptions of Islamic terrorists as being pure evil super-geniuses who have everything planned out well in advance over a hatred of western freedoms. e: 6 - Rome does a bunch of stuff. (Kegluneq?) Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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I started talking to some actual self-described communists/marxists recently rather than just socialists and let me tell you they are loving nutbar.
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Let me tell you your posting in this thread is really bad.
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I like how The Saurus can't go a page in this thread without trying to provoke a stupid argument.
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Guavanaut posted:e: 6 - Rome does a bunch of stuff. (Kegluneq?) Judea becomes part of the Roman Empire; they do a census that doesn't go down well?
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Guavanaut posted:Also about how people can get radicalized without knowing a drat thing about what it is they're radicalizing to, shooting down the idea that there's something specifically toxic about Islam as a faith that turns are kids into terrorists. If anything it's neoliberalism (perhaps specifically where it intersects secular social liberalism) that causes radicalisation. The common thread between everyone that's drifted in that direction lately seems to be along the lines of "I don't know what the gently caress the world is even about any more, but these guys do and I want to be part of that".
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Tesseraction posted:I like how The Saurus can't go a page in this thread without trying to provoke a stupid argument. Sorry, I'll try and post less shittily. I've just never met people who defend everything north korea, mao and stalin did with total sincerity.
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Renaissance Robot posted:If anything it's neoliberalism (perhaps specifically where it intersects secular social liberalism) that causes radicalisation. The common thread between everyone that's drifted in that direction lately seems to be along the lines of "I don't know what the gently caress the world is even about any more, but these guys do and I want to be part of that". I did make a half-formed argument a while ago that the neo-liberal right's continuous crushing of left-wing movements in the 20th century has laid the trail for a the radical right to rise unhindered, whether it's the American Tea Party, UKIP or (in a very extreme case) Islamic Fundamentalism. Obviously mentioning the first two in the same sentence as the latter is something that needs more than a single line and that's why I started writing up about it but then got depressed so I cheered myself up by reading Killing Hope. Which didn't help.
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The Saurus posted:Sorry, I'll try and post less shittily. I've just never met people who defend everything north korea, mao and stalin did with total sincerity. Mate, there are people on this very forum who defend everything that Hitler did with total sincerity. People will defend anything someone did no matter how much evidence is thrown in their way.
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Perhaps because of such evidence.
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Somebody tried to radicalise me on the bus once.
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Pissflaps posted:Somebody tried to radicalise me on the bus once. tell us the story pissflaps one time an old lady sat next to me on the bus and started complaining about how my generation uses calculators in maths class and that makes us thick, then started talking about how in the war there were a load of "free french, free dutch, yanks and negro yanks" who came to the area. On the islamist radicalisation thing it's pretty loving rich of the western governments to cry about them now after they supported them for decades against secular leftists in middle eastern countries.
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Were they trying to sign you up to a pyramid scheme? It would explain a lot.
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The Saurus posted:tell us the story pissflaps I was sat on a bus several years ago and a guy sat next to me and passed me an a5 flier with Arabic writing on it and suggested I 'come along' to an event that was being held. I smiled and said 'maybe' and pocketed the flier but inside I was screaming 'no loving chance'.
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The calculator I used at school you could play Mario on, not so stupid now is it, old lady?
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Pissflaps posted:I was sat on a bus several years ago and a guy sat next to me and passed me an a5 flier with Arabic writing on it and suggested I 'come along' to an event that was being held. I smiled and said 'maybe' and pocketed the flier but inside I was screaming 'no loving chance'. What did the leaflet say?
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Pissflaps posted:I was sat on a bus several years ago and a guy sat next to me and passed me an a5 flier with Arabic writing on it and suggested I 'come along' to an event that was being held. I smiled and said 'maybe' and pocketed the flier but inside I was screaming 'no loving chance'. One time I was on a plane and this african lady was sat next to me and tried to talk to me about christianity and gave me a pamphlet. I told her that I'd actually read the bible from cover to cover and she increduously asked "You've read the entire bible and you still don't believe in God?!" The rest of the flight was a bit awkward.
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serious gaylord posted:What did the leaflet say?
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serious gaylord posted:What did the leaflet say? Haven't a clue it was all just squiggles.
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Pissflaps turned down a 'we swear we aren't terrorists - come see!' party invitation over his fear of the filthy sand people.
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I remember seeing leaflets around here that said Valentine's Day was haraam in, I think, 2008? It was more funny than anything.
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Do you resemble someone who looks like they might speak Arabic pissflaps?
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The Saurus posted:Do you resemble someone who looks like they might speak Arabic pissflaps? What do you mean?
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You know, dusky skin, almond eyes, beard, that sort of thing.
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The Saurus posted:You know, dusky skin, almond eyes, beard, that sort of thing. Is this racism?
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Kinda feels like, to be honest.
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Pissflaps posted:Is this racism? Political correctness gone mad.
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If we have to boot many more people out of the thread for being racist we're going to run out of posters.
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OwlFancier posted:we're going to run out of posters. don't really see the downside to this tbh
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It's completely racist to suggest that people of middle eastern descent are more likely to speak and read Arabic than people of white british descent.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:I see Facebook is getting quite upset about some video from 2013 of Corbyn saying he doesn't see the point in commemorating the First World War.  ....yep These people are allowed to vote 
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tbf if I was a Muslim guy handing out flyers in Arabic only on public transport in the UK I'd be looking for cultural cues that the person would be receptive, regardless of their race. Around here there's a fair few people that would be able to read it, but also people that would launch into some 'we speak English around here you dirty bastard' tirade or worse, so I'd err on the side of caution.
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The Saurus posted:It's completely racist to suggest that people of middle eastern descent are more likely to speak and read Arabic than people of white british descent. While it is not strictly racist to suggest that other people might be being racist in judging someone else's ethnicity and linguistic skills based on whether they look "a bit dusky" it's possibly a bit weird when you do it in those terms.
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Guavanaut posted:tbf if I was a Muslim guy handing out flyers in Arabic only on public transport in the UK I'd be looking for cultural cues that the person would be receptive, regardless of their race. Around here there's a fair few people that would be able to read it, but also people that would launch into some 'we speak English around here you dirty bastard' tirade or worse, so I'd err on the side of caution. I guess I'm a friendly, approachable guy?
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Guavanaut posted:tbf if I was a Muslim guy handing out flyers in Arabic only on public transport in the UK I'd be looking for cultural cues that the person would be receptive, regardless of their race. Around here there's a fair few people that would be able to read it, but also people that would launch into some 'we speak English around here you dirty bastard' tirade or worse, so I'd err on the side of caution. So, no handing them out to skinheads with a Flag of St. George T-shirt, likewise tattoo and Combat 18 patch on their trou?
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OwlFancier posted:While it is not strictly racist to suggest that other people might be being racist in judging someone else's ethnicity and linguistic skills based on whether they look "a bit dusky" it's possibly a bit weird when you do it in those terms. p. much, I mean if you're someone who matches the description posting about it it's more understandable, but asking someone about their ethnicity out of the blue can be p. troubling imo
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Tesseraction posted:So, no handing them out to skinheads with a Flag of St. George T-shirt, likewise tattoo and Combat 18 patch on their trou? I was wondering why I never get any leaflets on buses
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Tesseraction posted:p. much, I mean if you're someone who matches the description posting about it it's more understandable, but asking someone about their ethnicity out of the blue can be p. troubling imo This happens a lot in the Scottish thread.
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Pissflaps posted:I guess I'm a friendly, approachable guy? Did he notice you'd chosen doner kebab meat as your parmo topping that day?
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The Saurus posted:Did he notice you'd chosen doner kebab meat as your parmo topping that day? If he knew I prefer pork parmos he'd never have asked.
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