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Voting is done! Click here to see the results! Hey, it's back! Welcome to the second year of the SAS MLB Hall of Fame. Before we get started, let's take a look at our inaugural class from last year: Jeff Bagwell Craig Biggio Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Randy Johnson Pedro Martinez Mike Piazza John Smoltz Larry Walker Good job, guys  So what is the SAS MLB Hall of Fame Ballot? Well, every year the BWAA votes on the MLB Hall of Fame, and every year we watch as they inevitably gently caress it up. With all the talk, I'd like to see who we would put into the hall. I'm going to keep track of this through multiple years, so when we induct players and the writers don't, they won't appear on the next ballot (and vice versa). I also changed the rules a bit, because the BBWA is dumb. A player must be on at least 75% of ballots cast to qualify for the SAS MLB Hall of Fame There is no limitation on players you can vote for. You want to vote for 12 guys? Go for it. Only three are deserving? Then only vote for them. Because of this, the bar for entry has been raised, and players will fall off the ballot if they fail to reach a certain percentage, based on how many years they've been on the ballot. - First year: 25% - Second year: 50% - Third year: 75% - three strikes and you're out It's a pretty simple system so the rules aren't difficult! Last year had nine inductees, nine who moved on to this year, and sixteen who fell off. Here is the list of 2016 hopefuls. Garret Anderson Brad Asmus Luis Castillo David Eckstein Jim Edmonds Troy Glaus Ken Griffey Jr. Mark Grudzielanek Mike Hampton Trevor Hoffman Jason Kendall Jeff Kent Mike Lowell Edgar Martinez Mark McGwire Mike Mussina Tim Raines Curt Schilling Gary Sheffield Sammy Sosa Mike Sweeney Alan Trammell Billy Wagner Randy Winn Voting is absolutely subjective, but feel free to post about why you feel guys should or should not be hall of famers in here, as you have until 11:59pm EST on December 30th to vote. I plan on revealing the results, as well as all the ballots, on New Year's Day. And here is your ballot. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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TheFlyingLlama posted:quick question, how to I protest vote for pete rose? Just an all blank ballot or what? Pete Rose is banned from baseball and also is a terrible person so you should have no sympathy for him. But I guess if you want to vote for like Randy Winn he's probably just as deserving as Rose so he's a good protest vote.
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Dec 1, 2015 02:14
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bawfuls posted:Do you have vote percentages for the guys returning from last year's ballot so we can see how close they are to falling off or getting in? Shouldn't matter. Vote based on if you think they are a hall of famer, not just because you want to bump someone over the edge or keep them on the ballot. Same reason why I didn't tell you in the OP who the second year guys are.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:37
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JoeRules posted:Sheffield was on the ballot? He's not listed in the OP, so I didn't give him consideration. poo poo, my bad. I can add him to your vote retroactively if you want. OP is fixed now.
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Dec 1, 2015 14:24
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MourningView posted:This plus Sheffield and Jim Edmounds was mine This plus Kent and Wagner for me. Nice spread on the ballots so far, several that go over ten and a few that are as small as three.
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Dec 1, 2015 18:52
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Bob Shabazz posted:If Billy Wagner isn't a Hall of Famer then basically no reliever but Mariano is. This is sort of how I felt. Wagner dominates Hoffman in basically every stat but saves, and ultimately I voted for him but left Hoffman off. Hoffman was good through his whole career so I can't call him a compiler or anything, but I think the bar to get in as purely a reliever has to be super high and I don't feel like the rest of his numbers bear that out, whereas I feel like Wagner's do.
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Dec 1, 2015 20:16
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MourningView posted:He was a very good hitter at a premium position that he played really well. Probably not as well as the highlights indicated, but a lot of people have overreacted way too far the other way to that in an effort to sound smarter than the average baseball fan. Seriously, dude had a career OPS of .903. That's higher than Sosa (.878), for reference.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:33
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Calm down guys it wouldn't be an authentic Hall of Fame voting process if it didn't have a few ballots based on terrible opinions.
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Dec 13, 2015 22:39
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tadashi posted:I did this, too. Yeah, Schilling's postseason success is what tipped him into HoF for me. I might have still voted for him anyway but it made it less of a decision, at least. Especially because I can't claim that I wouldn't have let his off field actions cloud my judgement if it was a close call.
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Dec 14, 2015 17:49
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MourningView posted:Well McGwire was a way better hitter so He also didn't have like a four year peak with bad seasons on either side
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Dec 15, 2015 18:44
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Mr. Fix It posted:Was on the fence about Trammel, but he really had a good 1980s from a premium defensive position. Might vote for Edmonds next year. What exactly would make him any more worthy next year than this year?
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Dec 16, 2015 15:28
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Mr. Fix It posted:Just not first ballot material, sorry. What does that even mean
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Dec 17, 2015 14:43
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MourningView posted:it means he doesn't want to vote for him the first time he is on the ballot My point is that the "first ballot prestige" is dumb and he should feel bad 
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Dec 17, 2015 16:04
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Mr. Fix It posted:Well, excuse me. I thought the was thread where we role-play sports writers.  IcePhoenix posted:So what is the SAS MLB Hall of Fame Ballot? Well, every year the BWAA votes on the MLB Hall of Fame, and every year we watch as they inevitably gently caress it up. With all the talk, I'd like to see who we would put into the hall. I'm going to keep track of this through multiple years, so when we induct players and the writers don't, they won't appear on the next ballot (and vice versa). I also changed the rules a bit, because the BBWA is dumb. If that's how you want to do your ballot though, then you do you  At least I understand why you used that reasoning.
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Dec 18, 2015 05:07
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On the positive side we're up to 64 ballots cast so hopefully we're going to pass last year before the final push (there were a good amount of ballots cast in the last couple days last year)
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Dec 18, 2015 05:12
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Unless it's the difference between falling off the ballot or staying on, I'm probably only going to add the Sheffield votes because that was me legit loving up and leaving him out of the OP. Also we're up to 65 responses and last year had a late rush on the last couple days so we might break 100 votes 
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Dec 18, 2015 18:02
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10 days left and we've matched our vote total from last year 
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Dec 21, 2015 14:56
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Eric the Mauve posted:And then of course there was 1999, the year Rafael Palmeiro won the silver slugger at DH and the gold glove at 1B. This is my favorite one. chilihead posted:Also in our day and age i think we have to vote in some relievers. They are very important and are no longer simply starters who failed and are moved to the bullpen. That era ended long ago.  Trying to figure out where to set their bar is hard, though.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:09
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Nathan's 2004-2009 were completely absurd but I don't think you can put a guy in off of six years.
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Dec 22, 2015 17:43
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The Pussy Boss posted:While we're talking about relief pitchers and the HoF, would you guys put in Kimbrel and/or Chapman if they keep doing their thing for another 5-6 years? Yeah absolutely. That kind of dominance for 10-ish years is an easy case.
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Dec 27, 2015 21:01
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DeepDickPizza posted:I just put together a ballot in like 5 minutes. Hope my cursory glance at stats to validate my gut feelings didn't gently caress up!!! These ballots are the most fun to look at so don't worry about it 
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Dec 30, 2015 21:25
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Thanks for voting, everyone! I'll post the results sometime on Friday. Final ballot count was 103 
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Dec 31, 2015 06:00
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I'm probably going to put Rose on the ballot next year since Manfred made it pretty clear that even though he's banned from baseball he doesn't care what the HoF does. I mean, I'm not going to vote for him but I may as well give people the option.
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Dec 31, 2015 14:40
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Tony Phillips posted:Can there just be a new SAS can vote for permanently ineligible players if they see fit? All aboard the Rose and Jackson poo poo storm. Yeah, sure, why not. Outside of Shoeless Joe and Rose who else was banned? e: actually after looking it up I'm just gonna leave it at Rose. Also seeing that Mantle and Mays were banned for two years in the 80s was kind of interesting. IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 16:35
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Something kind of funny about the ballots this year is that there was nobody who had a vote percentage in the 10s, 20s, or 30s.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:09
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 RESULTS Ken Griffey Jr. 99.03% Edgar Martinez 88.35% Mike Mussina 84.47% Mark McGwire 79.61% Tim Raines 77.67% -------------------------------------------------- Curt Schilling 72.82% Alan Trammell 69.90% Gary Sheffield 67.96% Sammy Sosa 47.57%  Jim Edmonds 45.63% Trevor Hoffman 44.66% Billy Wagner 43.69% Jeff Kent 40.78% David Eckstein 5.83% Jason Kendall 5.83% Mike Sweeney 4.85% Randy Winn 4.85% Garret Anderson 2.91% Brad Asmus 2.91% Luis Castillo 2.91% Troy Glaus 2.91% Mark Grudzielanek 1.94% Mike Hampton 1.94% Mike Lowell 1.94% Here are the ballots Congrats to the SAS Hall of Fame Class of 2016!
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Jan 1, 2016 20:04
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Infidel Castro posted:Good, gently caress Gary Sheffield. Not only that but he submitted his ballot on CHRISTMAS
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Jan 1, 2016 20:18
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Pancakes posted:The result sucks, Trammel belongs in the Hall. That being said, I guarantee SAS gives Trammel a higher percentage than the writers. he went up a bit from last year so he still might get in on his last chance next year (I know this is his last year in the real world but I'm ignoring that because the real world uses Dumb and Bad rules) It's real silly that Jeff Kent won't get that chance though
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Jan 2, 2016 01:38
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