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MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Samurai Sanders posted:

Aw, I wanted to hear the logic of why only a godly person can defeat radical Muslims.

Remember that the three forms of Satanism are Satanists, Atheists, and Islam.

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Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Samurai Sanders posted:

I'd feel worse for them if they weren't so influential in politics.

I dunno. I think that with different leadership in their church they likely would be directing their efforts in a much more socially productive manner. But angry rants telling them that everything isn't their fault and that actually their godliness and that of a few stalwart members of society is all that is holding back a tide of evil fills pews and keeps collection plates full.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Remember that the three forms of Satanism are Satanists, Atheists, and Islam.

You joke but evangelicals believe that if something doesn't come from God then it comes from Satan. All the other religions are deceptions created by the father of lies.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Samurai Sanders posted:

I'd feel worse for them if they weren't so influential in politics.

The thing that makes me chuckle is how the news actually reports on whether or not a president goes to church in a secular country.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
I can't wait for a Muslim president :unsmith: they will be more awesome than the JESUS TOLD ME TO gently caress REFUGEES shills and it will kill off the remaining freeper population from suicide/rage-induced strokes.

Too bad it won't happen for a long time. :smith:

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
We have the magic number: 1237

That is the number of delegates needed to win the GOP nomination, per Call of the Convention just issued.

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES

Logikv9 posted:

I can't wait for a Muslim president :unsmith: they will be more awesome than the JESUS TOLD ME TO gently caress REFUGEES shills and it will kill off the remaining freeper population from suicide/rage-induced strokes.

Too bad it won't happen for a long time. :smith:

I don't quite understand why the solution to a Jesus Krispie is a religious Muslim.

Ring me up when we get an agnostic president who openly tells the public "I ain't got time for this nonsense."

Amergin fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Dec 1, 2015

Sardine Wit
Sep 3, 2004

ComradeCosmobot posted:


[*]Martin Shkreli continues his quest to be the worst man in America.

This is a great read and holy poo poo why would short selling stock be legal? Is there any benefit to the economy at large?

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Sardine Wit posted:

This is a great read and holy poo poo why would short selling stock be legal? Is there any benefit to the economy at large?
The idea is that people who think a stock is loving worthless can still participate in the market for it, and it's basically a good idea in theory. The downside of course is that price manipulation becomes a lot easier.

Shorting should be legal IMO, but only in a perfect world where day trading is punishable by death and all investments must be held for a minimum of thirty days before they can be sold again.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Sardine Wit posted:

This is a great read and holy poo poo why would short selling stock be legal? Is there any benefit to the economy at large?

Shorting has its purpose in lowering the value of an over-inflated stock, theoretically stopping speculative bubbles before they can form. It just gets press for all the other schemes people use it for, including :psyduck: stuff like "naked short selling."

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

Logikv9 posted:

I can't wait for a Muslim president :unsmith: they will be more awesome than the JESUS TOLD ME TO gently caress REFUGEES shills and it will kill off the remaining freeper population from suicide/rage-induced strokes.

Too bad it won't happen for a long time. :smith:

Obama's already president though?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Sardine Wit posted:

This is a great read and holy poo poo why would short selling stock be legal? Is there any benefit to the economy at large?

it's just another form of financial speculation. unless you want to ban that outright there's no reason for it not to be

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Short selling is fine, this story is short selling combined with blatant market manipulation.

Isn't this guy already under investigation by the SEC?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

haveblue posted:

Isn't this guy already under investigation by the SEC?

Yes, and a pending lawsuit from his previous pharmaceutical company.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
If we are talking Martin Shkreli here, do we also want to talk about the insanity that is Dryvying?

Or should we maybe have a separate thread for this kind of insane bullshit?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

What I want to know if Shkreli is able to manipulate the market by dint of the amount of money he's throwing around or if he's leveraging his media-built persona as a ruthless shark to make more money.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Fried Chicken posted:

If we are talking Martin Shkreli here, do we also want to talk about the insanity that is Dryvying?

Or should we maybe have a separate thread for this kind of insane bullshit?

What is dryvying?

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

Crain posted:

What is dryvying?

http://dryvyng.com/

not to be confused with

http://dryving.com/

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Fried Chicken posted:

If we are talking Martin Shkreli here, do we also want to talk about the insanity that is Dryvying?

Or should we maybe have a separate thread for this kind of insane bullshit?


zoux posted:

What I want to know if Shkreli is able to manipulate the market by dint of the amount of money he's throwing around or if he's leveraging his media-built persona as a ruthless shark to make more money.

As if that wasn't enough, he's basically saying "No, I won't drop the price on the drugs that are exclusive to us, but we will setup a patient assistance program (loan program) to purchase said drugs.

I really REALLY hope the FDA revokes his patent.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

quote:

“I read his book, and I was just awed,” Mike says, referring to “Gifted Hands,” Carson’s book about his rise from impoverished child to world-famous brain surgeon, in which he describes a God who answered his every prayer, no matter how urgent or mundane — from taking away his anger to giving him exam answers to locating his passport. “He believes there’s a higher power.”

“He has to have a higher power to do what he does,” says Toni, who saw the movie version on a Christian TV channel. “Anybody would know that.”

I wonder if they know what apophenia is.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Crain posted:

What is dryvying?

It's some kind of ride-sharing app run by an MRA ex-revenge porn baron.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Kilroy posted:

The idea is that people who think a stock is loving worthless can still participate in the market for it, and it's basically a good idea in theory. The downside of course is that price manipulation becomes a lot easier.

Shorting should be legal IMO, but only in a perfect world where day trading is punishable by death and all investments must be held for a minimum of thirty days before they can be sold again.

There are regulations against day traders short selling but I don't remember what they are beyond needing a certain amount in your account, margin trading can't be under 25%, and regulations say if you do it too often they'll do a margin call on you and ban you from trading for 90 days if you can't deposit enough cash to cover the margin, since the potential losses on a short sale are infinite.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

CommieGIR posted:

As if that wasn't enough, he's basically saying "No, I won't drop the price on the drugs that are exclusive to us, but we will setup a patient assistance program (loan program) to purchase said drugs.

I really REALLY hope the FDA revokes his patent.

You think that he's the only one falsely inflating the price of a drug or procedure, or do you think that's literally every pharma and medical company in America?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

zoux posted:

You think that he's the only one falsely inflating the price of a drug or procedure, or do you think that's literally every pharma and medical company in America?

I think it's more the sheer audacity of it with this guy. 5000% was the number I think? It's going to be bad if the pharma companies realize they can get away with even more than they already do.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
E: DP

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

zoux posted:

You think that he's the only one falsely inflating the price of a drug or procedure, or do you think that's literally every pharma and medical company in America?

:ssh: When other major pharmaceutical companies are going "Woah now, we're not THAT evil", you've gone too far.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Talmonis posted:

I think it's more the sheer audacity of it with this guy. 5000% was the number I think? It's going to be bad if the pharma companies realize they can get away with even more than they already do.

Well he's about to have the Senate take a big ol' dump in his mouth so hopefully that won't happen.

it already works that way

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

CommieGIR posted:

:ssh: When other major pharmaceutical companies are going "Woah now, we're not THAT evil", you've gone too far.

It's because he is a convenient scapegoat and infringing on their territory. Once he is dealt with by the government, the thirst for blood will be sated and your Merck pills will go up another 400% while people blame Obamacare.

Old James
Nov 20, 2003

Wait a sec. I don't know an Old James!

Mr Interweb posted:

Ugh. I was watching my local channel 7 news and they ran a segment that was indistinguishable from something you'd see on Fox. This "congressional reporter" got a hold of some stupid report by a Republican who found $100 billion in "government waste" and said she wasn't able to find a single person who could defend the things in it (you know, the typical high-lariously useless sounding projects that conservatives love to tout like $5 million on mating habits of fruit flies and such). It was so Fox News-y that they even had lovely stock music playing in the background signifying how shady and wasteful the government is. The "reporter" ends the segment by saying that the "American people shouldn't expect answers any time soon".

I know you aren't the one asking the question, but if you know how fruit flies mate you might be able to figure out a way to interupt them and therefore reduce their populations and spoilage. So $5 million in scientific research may save billions over the years in lost production.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



I know we're all hoping Shkreli winds up in a federal pound-me-in-the-rear end prison, but come on, let's be serious here. He's gonna get fined, and that'll be the end of it. Because our justice system loving sucks. :smith:

heard u like girls
Mar 25, 2013

Whats up with the coal references?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
Research also isn't a goddamn tech tree. We have no idea what seemingly useless research may pay dividends later.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Well, looks like Trump was right about the 9/11 videos and we were all fools.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Humans Among Us posted:

Whats up with the coal references?

Paris Climate Talks.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

You know, I was thinking about Carson talking about the Pyramids being used for grain storage. Isn't that what they did in the Civilization games? It'd be hilarious if Carson got his knowledge of ancient wonders of the world from a videogame.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

zoux posted:

Well, looks like Trump was right about the 9/11 videos and we were all fools.

Pack it in everybody, unknown radio show host said he saw it too.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

What if instead of showing people saying they remember the videos, what if they just showed the video for proof? Why aren't they showing the video itself????

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Gravel Gravy posted:

How many until America gets a free sandwich?

Obama's already served America a footlong.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


DeathSandwich posted:

You know, I was thinking about Carson talking about the Pyramids being used for grain storage. Isn't that what they did in the Civilization games? It'd be hilarious if Carson got his knowledge of ancient wonders of the world from a videogame.
It isn't constant. In the first one it allowed you to adopt any Govt without anarchy.

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Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


CommieGIR posted:

As if that wasn't enough, he's basically saying "No, I won't drop the price on the drugs that are exclusive to us, but we will setup a patient assistance program (loan program) to purchase said drugs.

I really REALLY hope the FDA revokes his patent.

He doesn't have a patent. The drug is generic just nobody else bothered to go through the approval process to make it because the return just wasn't there for a specialty drug at $14 a pill. Even at the current $750 per other companies probably still won't try to get approval both because Mr Douchebro changed the distribution so it is harder to get the drug to do bioequivalence testing (which is one of the reasons he is under investigation) and because he can wait for them to do all the work and then crater the price to drive them out of the market.

Fun little side note since you brought up patents: pharmaceutical companies area freaking out at the moment because hedge funds have started doing a rather nasty thing to make money at their expense. The hedge funds short the stock and then file challenges to critical patents the company has using a newly instituted review process at the Patent Office. The stock dips and they make money, and stand to make even more if the patent gets invalidated because some pharmaceutical companies basically only exist due to one or two drugs.

But the pharmaceutical industry has largely hosed itself by being greedy and burning any political capital in favor of stuff like tax inversions and sky high near-term returns.

Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 1, 2015

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