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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Alcohol is illegal in most of the communities up there. Warehouses for the alcohol permitted for some citizens and establishments is kept under guard. You can make over $200 for a bottle of Smirnoff.

Per capita the three territories lead Canada in rape, murder, alcoholism and assault.

People go missing/freeze to death all the time up there after drinking and wandering off.

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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On the one hand, the Reserves up there are awful and filled with alcoholism, sexual assault and violence. One the other, any attempt to help is decried as Colonialism and the White Man's Burden.

Personally, I'd like to figure out how to smuggle rum up there and make enough to buy a car for a case of Captain Morgans.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Q: If I filled a mid-size SUV with Vodka and drove up from Ontario, what are the chances of being intercepted by the RCMP?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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SmokaDustbowl posted:

they get drunk and murder each other

Million Ghosts posted:

the national passtimes in nunavut are drinking and shooting yourself in the fuckin head

So far, so good.

Noblesse Obliged posted:

You would hope to be caught by the rcmp because the dudes who run that racket right now would make you eat your own blackened and frostbitten toes and feet before you learn that a beaver will eat a living meal.

Hmm. Would they not also be the local drunks?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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It was the only way to get them to read and be able to participate in modern society. As has been pointed out, Reserves are Hell, so how would anyone be able to leave and be technologically literate if they were just left to their own devices?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Dyna Soar posted:

it exists b/c those ppl have lived there for thousands or at least hundreds of years and don't want to leave. why they're so poor and have a lot of social and economic issues is because your goverment sucks, basically.

Yeah lots of money in trading seal blubber in the modern globalized economy. They're poor because hunting and gathering is fine to live off of at a subsistence level, but it doesn't compete with agriculture let alone industrialized society.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Dyna Soar posted:

lots of other arctic aboriginal peoples living in their ancient lands aren't poor. the sami for example

The indigenous Sami population is a mostly urbanised demographic. They realized that herding reindeer is less profitable than selling mineral and oil rights and moving into the cities and towns of Norway.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Subyng posted:

but that's how they were living (hunting/gathering) before colonialism anyway so I don't get it

They were poor before colonialism! They had skins, and antlers and bones. That was all they needed. They still have those things.

They live in an area that cannot support agriculture or industry, so of course they survive on a primitive level of development.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Dyna Soar posted:

how about full rights to the natural resourced in the arctic as well as fishing quotas and such?

They signed The Numbered Treaties, they have the rights they agreed to.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Dyna Soar posted:

oh come on, those treaties are a complete sham. are you trolling or are you being serious here?

quote:

Through centuries of interaction First Nations view the Numbered Treaties as sacred. As an expression of this association, First Nations in Canada and members of the Federal Government will regularly meet to celebrate milestone anniversaries, exchange ceremonial and symbolic gifts, and discuss treaty issues. Treaty Days are celebrated in Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Bag Smokes are pretty funny. Because tobacco is sacred to natives, there's no regulation. As a result, there's a massive industry of manufacturing cigarettes.

A pack of 200 costs $10.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/cheap-smokes-flood-canadian-cities-1.601307

http://www.lfpress.com/2014/10/28/campaign-targets-illegal-smokes

http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/5160899-clearing-the-smoke-surrounding-first-nations-cigarettes/

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Cheap smokes make it hard to quit the habit and there's a financial cost to governments as well. The federal and provincial governments lose $2 billion a year in tax revenue when people buy tax-free native cigarettes.

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Senator Hugh Segal, an outspoken critic of contraband tobacco, maintains the police are afraid to enter native reserves and arrest the ringleaders because they fear a repeat of the Oka crisis from 20 years ago. Back then, violence erupted when the Quebec police and later the Army went onto the Kanestake reserve to enforce a municipal bylaw. Subsequent confrontations across Canada have led to blockades and violence. He believes that it's a situation Ottawa and the provinces want to avoid.

Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Dec 14, 2015

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Dyna Soar posted:

hey, would you look at this racist gently caress right here

Have you ever been near Rama? Natives in bands with casinos or other sources of quick cash are "Hood Rich" as hell. New snowmobiles every winter, new trucks and cars when they turn 16.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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The U.S state department has Travel Advisories for the Canadian North.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Bring back Residential Schools. Just don't put the Catholics in charge.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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Their "culture" lol

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

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naem posted:

Haha hee "child rape" heh

That's one thing they sure didn't learn from the white man. They kept that tradition alive!

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