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Item Getter posted:I never read the first two books, I think I know generally about the Tower of Joy but what would the other young Ned flashback be about? Might be the Knight of the Laughing Tree.
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If I had to guess, they're gonna use it to establish Ned and Lyanna's bond before showing Tower of Joy. Kid Lyanna's gonna say "Promise me, Ned." about something unimportant. Lycus fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Dec 29, 2015 08:46
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Lycus posted:If I had to guess, they're gonna use it to establish Ned and Lyanna's bond before showing Tower of Joy. And then the camera will zoom in slowly on Young Ned's face as he slowly nods and says, "Keeping this promise, like all promises I will make with you, is super important to me."
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Dec 29, 2015 14:30
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Lycus posted:If I had to guess, they're gonna use it to establish Ned and Lyanna's bond before showing Tower of Joy. The first flashback will be a recall of the dialogue in the crypts with the added information that she is into Rhaegar. It's really important that the viewer knows that she was not abducted and raped before the ToJ. Up to this point the show viewers only know that Rhaegar really was in love, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Lyanna did love him too.
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Dec 29, 2015 14:47
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GaussianCopula posted:The first flashback will be a recall of the dialogue in the crypts with the added information that she is into Rhaegar. It's really important that the viewer knows that she was not abducted and raped before the ToJ. Up to this point the show viewers only know that Rhaegar really was in love, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Lyanna did love him too. Most show viewers probably don't know who the gently caress this Ray Garr chap is at all - he's not exactly been mentioned very frequently.
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Dec 29, 2015 14:57
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LemonDrizzle posted:Most show viewers probably don't know who the gently caress this Ray Garr chap is at all - he's not exactly been mentioned very frequently. Fair point but the fact that they killed of Barristan the Expositor shows us that they feel like they have sufficiently introduced that character. Unless of course they have no loving clue what they are doing, which is an alternative explanation I would accept.
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Dec 29, 2015 15:39
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TOOT BOOT posted:
When Bran takes over someone's body, they'll swap in Bran's actor still in the original guy's clothes, like the body-switching stones in Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Universe. Then they'll find some random low-level foot soldier schmuck, introduce him, and 10 seconds later Bran will warg into him and we'll only ever see Bran and never see that original guest actor again, because Bran is sort of evil now and wants his legs back etc., and the writers got bored with his actual book storyline and want Bran to "do things."
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Dec 29, 2015 15:39
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:You imagined it. He claimed he would have it out by the end of 2016, but it looks like he already missed that window. Naw, he's missed the window for getting TWOW out before season 6 if you assume it would take the same amount of time between announcement and release as ADWD did. But he hasn't missed his chance to get it out in 2016 in general, whether you think the chances of that happening are likely or not.
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Dec 29, 2015 16:22
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DirtyRobot posted:When Bran takes over someone's body, they'll swap in Bran's actor still in the original guy's clothes, like the body-switching stones in Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Universe. Theorizing that one could greensee within his own lifetime, cripple Bran Stark stepped into the Heart tree cave and vanished... He woke to find himself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not his own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. His only guide on this journey is Bloodraven, an observer from his own time, who appears in the form of a three eyed raven that only Bran can see and hear. And so Bran Stark finds himself warging from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next warg will be the warg home…
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Dec 29, 2015 16:22
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lifts cats over head posted:Theorizing that one could greensee within his own lifetime, cripple Bran Stark stepped into the Heart tree cave and vanished... He woke to find himself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not his own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. His only guide on this journey is Bloodraven, an observer from his own time, who appears in the form of a three eyed raven that only Bran can see and hear. And so Bran Stark finds himself warging from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next warg will be the warg home… I would watch the poo poo out of this show.
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Dec 29, 2015 17:43
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lifts cats over head posted:Theorizing that one could greensee within his own lifetime, cripple Bran Stark stepped into the Heart tree cave and vanished... He woke to find himself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not his own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. His only guide on this journey is Bloodraven, an observer from his own time, who appears in the form of a three eyed raven that only Bran can see and hear. And so Bran Stark finds himself warging from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next warg will be the warg home… *wargs into Hodor* "I'm retarded?"
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Dec 29, 2015 18:32
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Ague Proof posted:*wargs into Hodor* Fixed that for you.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:50
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Who knows what Bran will be doing. I mean originally he was meant to be a wizard or something. A boy sitting in a dark cave all alone (for the most part) can be interesting in a book but I'm not so sure they can pull it off on television.
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Dec 29, 2015 21:04
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Im going about my day and I randomly think of the Bad Pussy line and just start cracking up. It seriously rivals "I don't like sand." in the all time worst lines ever written.
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Dec 29, 2015 21:31
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Mischitary posted:A boy sitting in a dark cave all alone (for the most part) can be interesting in a book but I'm not so sure they can pull it off on television.
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Dec 29, 2015 21:39
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Im going about my day and I randomly think of the Bad Pussy line and just start cracking up. It seriously rivals "I don't like sand." in the all time worst lines ever written. Nah, "I don't like sand" is not supposed to be a punchline while "you want a good girls but you need a bad pussy" is. It's cheesy and cheap but the audience at least reacts the way the authors intended while "I don't like sand, [...] it gets everywhere " is not intended to make you groan and hate Anakin.
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Dec 29, 2015 21:39
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Homeboy is not going to walk. Bloodraven specifically tells him "you will never walk again". I lol'd at this reference though 
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Dec 29, 2015 22:40
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Im going about my day and I randomly think of the Bad Pussy line and just start cracking up. It seriously rivals "I don't like sand." in the all time worst lines ever written. Anakin had it right though, because after Season 5 I don't like Obara, Tyene and Nymeria Sand.
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Dec 30, 2015 00:54
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You want the good television, but you need the bad pussy.
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Dec 30, 2015 06:01
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GaussianCopula posted:"I don't like sand, [...] it gets everywhere " is not intended to make you groan and hate Anakin. Yeah it is, unless you like whiny teenagers.
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Dec 30, 2015 06:29
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Homeboy is not going to walk. Bloodraven specifically tells him "you will never walk again". I don't understand this at all since he could just walk with the exact same methods he uses to be able to fly. GRRM is a poo poo writer.
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Dec 30, 2015 07:10
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I don't understand this at all since he could just walk with the exact same methods he uses to be able to fly. Skinchanging another human is an abomination, and presumably Bloodraven and the CotF would be pretty pissed if they found out Bran was doing it to Hodor.
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Dec 30, 2015 07:16
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Soup du Jour posted:Skinchanging another human is an abomination, and presumably Bloodraven and the CotF would be pretty pissed if they found out Bran was doing it to Hodor. There are creatures besides human beings which can walk.
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Dec 30, 2015 07:59
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I don't understand this at all since he could just walk with the exact same methods he uses to be able to fly. Maybe he's speaking like a drug dealer and he knows that Bran is going to get so high on that Jojen paste!
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Dec 30, 2015 14:03
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lifts cats over head posted:Fixed that for you. He'll speak English but everyone else will hear 'Hodor': like that episode where he's a chimpanzee in a cage RoboChrist 9000 posted:There are creatures besides human beings which can walk. Wun Wun is apparently dumber than Hodor. Giant time
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Dec 30, 2015 16:52
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Soup du Jour posted:Skinchanging another human is an abomination, and presumably Bloodraven and the CotF would be pretty pissed if they found out Bran was doing it to Hodor. Bloodraven definitely knows that Bran's been entering Hodor. Dude sees everything
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Dec 30, 2015 18:13
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Soup du Jour posted:Skinchanging another human is an abomination, and presumably Bloodraven and the CotF would be pretty pissed if they found out Bran was doing it to Hodor. That is what some Wildling said. We have no clue whether Bloodraven and the CotF have the same skinchanging codex.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:15
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"It's fine as long as they're mentally disabled, like everything else in life" - Bran, Bloodraven and by extension GRRM
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Dec 30, 2015 18:16
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The real question is how they are going to get Jojen's body back from outside so they can feed Bran Jojen shakes.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:18
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Ague Proof posted:He'll speak English but everyone else will hear 'Hodor': The post makes a lot more sense now.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:30
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Steve2911 posted:"It's fine as long as they're mentally disabled, like everything else in life" - Bran, Bloodraven and by extension GRRM Bran's warging of Hodor is always portrayed as a horrible, exploitative thing. The text really emphasizes that Bran is doing something evil.
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Dec 30, 2015 18:37
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In It For The Tank posted:Bran's warging of Hodor is always portrayed as a horrible, exploitative thing. The text really emphasizes that Bran is doing something evil. Not only that but that Bran is rationalizing it. He very much talks about it the same way an addict would discuss their drug of choice. "Just one more and then I'll stop".
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Dec 30, 2015 18:55
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speshl guy posted:Bloodraven definitely knows that Bran's been entering Hodor. Dude sees everything Eeww
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Dec 30, 2015 19:06
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lifts cats over head posted:Not only that but that Bran is rationalizing it. He very much talks about it the same way an addict would discuss their drug of choice. "Just one more and then I'll stop". I'm rereading ADWD at the moment and this is spot on. Bran talks about Hodor going away and retreating into his own mind like an abused dog cowering from his owner that beats him. It's legitimately creepy and foreshadows bad stuff to come from Bran I think.
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Dec 30, 2015 22:15
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Solice Kirsk posted:The real question is how they are going to get Jojen's body back from outside so they can feed Bran Jojen shakes. They might have to leave it, Jojen Shakes bring all the bones to the yard. 
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Dec 30, 2015 23:51
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They will tunnel to his corpse and slurp him through a straw in the snow
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Dec 31, 2015 00:00
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Bloodraven wargs into at least one dead human body, so he and his rules can get hosed
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Dec 31, 2015 00:13
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I cant wait to see what role Oly has going forward! You know, I honestly thought that they were going to have Oly try and warn Jon in an attempt to subvert the most obviously telegraphed expectations ever. But no.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:25
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Someone asked the forbidden question on notablog and GRRM said he might give an update tomorrow in his year end post.
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Its gonna depend on whether the Jets make the playoffs or not. If they don't he's gonna throw out everything and start over. So an entire days work.
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