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The Hardhome scene loving owned from front to back in my opinion.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2015 18:27 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:25 |
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None of the people that were stabbing Jon were people that would be talking to any of the wildlings in the night they had been back. I doubt many people were just shouting about seeing their dead family members stand up on the beach and look at them. Jon only told Sam about what happened. The attackers had been planned the assassination while Jon was gone. There was little time for any talk from his return until his demise. It's entirely reasonable that the men who have been conspiring against Jon Snow did not talk to him or any of his friends in the night after his return. It's not like he had been back for weeks and they had strategy meetings discussing the looming threat. He gets back home, talks a bit with his confidant, and then gets shanked by people that had been planning for days/weeks.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 17:57 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:Jon & other NW members actually saw it happening. There is no way the NW could not know about it. They had just got back and a lot of people probably hadn't spoke about the horrors they saw yet. It's not like they had been back for weeks.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2015 18:20 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:The NW comes back with lots of casualities and some thousands opf wildlings and nobody had the idea of asking "WTF happened out there?". They did had time to set up the stabbing, Im inclined to believe there was more than enough time to ask Jon or any of the survivors about what they saw. The conspirators didn't give a gently caress about what happened while he was gone.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2015 19:18 |
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He doesn't give a gently caress about the book and isn't working appreciably towards finishing.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2015 19:58 |
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Chris James 2 posted:lol at anybody who still honestly thinks he finishes both books before he dies same op
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 18:12 |
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I'm glad they left him out of the show. Quintin Martell, too. There really arent too many people that were left out that I miss. Generally speaking, HBO has done a great job of telling the story without stupid tangents.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 18:09 |
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Austrian mook posted:Funny ppl say that Aegon and Quentyn are tangents, despite knowing nothing about the upcoming plot details The people that do know about the plot details decided it was better to not use them at all, though, meaning they are either irrelevant in the long run or easily assimilated into another character. Take Coldhands or Jeyne Poole, for example.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 20:55 |
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What do you mean there's indications that stannis will beat the boltons? The pink letter is all we have in the books and it looks like it was legit.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 17:09 |
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Ginette Reno posted:What makes you think it was legit? It's pretty clearly a fake. Because Ramsey defeated Stannis.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 17:18 |
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The letter may still come in the show. It's what will lead to the battle of the bastards.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 17:31 |
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Or Jon is going to stab longclaw into his chest and pull out a flaming sword.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 00:06 |
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Or he just gets beat by Ramsey.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2016 22:28 |
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the pink letter is still gonna happen
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 03:01 |
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I dunno I enjoy the TV show versus the aimless meandering without ever actually getting to the point.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 14:28 |
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kater posted:The show can't even get to the point. Every character was left with a cliff hanger last season except Myrcella. That's standard soap opera stuff.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 18:09 |
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I'm posting in the tv forum why would the hell would I read?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2016 03:49 |
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Apoplexy posted:Canon: Stannis burns Shireen because of a cold front; Bad Pussy; 20 Good Men Correct.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2016 18:17 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:That's just stupid. Even in fantasy people shouldn't just be brought back from the dead all the time. What kind of schlock garbage writing would that be? Right?
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 17:28 |
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That's because gunpowder changed war drastically. It becomes your primary goal because it's simply the best.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2016 16:22 |
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lifts cats over head posted:Did the show even mention all that valuable king's blood they wasted when they executed Mance? Looking back I think they should have had them execute him for some magical purposes but Jon's sympathy arrow ruins the process. Mance is a false king. His blood is useless as he's just a common man.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 14:55 |
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It's roose and fat wanda
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 18:44 |
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Stannis had no intentions of returning to Castle Black. Why would he leave his child and wife behind if he wasn't going back?
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 16:12 |
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So It Goes posted:It would've helped if the show actually bothered to have establishing shots of a blizzard decimating his army or something. Instead, we had discussions in tents about it being cold and then Ramsey's team of magical teleporting fire ninjas destroyed "all" the food (again not shown, just the aftermath). Alternatively, if they didn't give Stannis the scene earlier in the season establishing without a doubt that he did care about his daughter, then you could maybe buy that he was just a terrible person. Instead, you get scenes in a tent where people say its cold and food is gone and Stannis is like, welp, better burn the daughter that I was established as legitimately caring for. It was such a wet fart of an arc. Like, I kinda get what the show creators were trying to go for, but the actual execution of the arc was just terrible. Pretty similar to Dorne in some ways. I feel like last season could have been improved a lot if the show wasn't forced to make yearly deadlines. They have a couple of scenes with Davos and Stannis talking about how dire their predicament is.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 17:21 |
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NutritiousSnack posted:So is Snow dead or not?
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 12:32 |
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Its very hard because most nerds can't act. Actors are generally shallow empty people that take direction and can put on any face well. Their job isn't to understand or know what someone's backstory is. Rather they're supposed to say lines in exact way the director wants them to.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2016 00:27 |
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I also like how she dealt with the emissary at yunkai or wherever that offered her gold and ships to leave.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2016 16:24 |
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Apoplexy posted:Nope, just watched that episode. I can't speak to book bran, but show bran seems to be done with anything going on south of the wall family or otherwise at that point. He has the chance to see Jon, and instead chooses to deliberately not talk to him because it will pull him from his quest. The fact that his oldest brother and father are dead is irrelevant. He died when he fell. His only purpose right now is to seek the raven.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2016 16:00 |
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Tywin asks that she be brought to his chambers after Cersei points her out at the wedding or whatever.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 20:49 |
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I had to go look it up. At the royal breakfast in season 4 episode 2 cersei points out shae to tywin. Tywin asks that she be brought to the tower of the hand before the wedding. He absolutely knew who she was and it's silly to think otherwise.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 21:14 |
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Awfulapp does that some times, but your theory is crackpot and doesn't really follow what happened. Sorry.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2016 21:32 |
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Varys' motivation is hard to suss out sometimes because he acts upon both his own wills and the will of the current king he serves. Like in season 4 Tyrion asks Varys to lie for him, and Varys says that he'll do no such thing because any lie from him to those in power is basically his own death. Regardless of his support for Dany or Viserys, he was bound by keeping his own head on his shoulders that he execute King Robert's orders.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2016 04:57 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What is even the point of Bran and Bloodraven? What do they even add to the story? If you were to remove all traces of their plot nothing would change. Easy plot mechanic for flashbacks or God modding.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2016 04:40 |
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The targs killed off a ton of people just 300 years ago plus the countless wars before it that would certainly thin out the herd.
Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Apr 20, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 01:07 |
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raej posted:I'm going to laugh so hard when they don't bring Jon back at all, and everything the cast has been saying is true. That the leaks of Jon riding in Stark attire is a red herrings to rile everyone up. This is basically my dream scenario but is certainly not what is going to happen.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 17:31 |
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CPFortest posted:Lol they just went gently caress the bullshit with Dorne It's beautiful.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2016 23:25 |
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Well the episode title is the battle of the bastards.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 06:50 |
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Reading that it makes it seem like the sand snakes are not the ones that kill Trystane. EDIT: missed a word or got autocorrected not sure. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Apr 24, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 17:08 |
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canepazzo posted:Maybe, but what's their plan after that? Who's there to take over? Ellaria's a bastard, and so're the Sand Snakes, doubt Dorne would rally behind them. Quentyn or Arianne making an appearance? Darkstar? Faegon? I misspoke. I don't think they killed him. I didn't actually read the script though and just went off of what she said to Doran.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 17:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 19:25 |
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Zero One posted:My cable company isn't doing the free trial and subscribing to their HBO is almost twice as much as HBO Now. But HBO now isn't available on my smart TV or PS4. Does your computer have an HDMI cord? You can sign up for HBO now and do it that way.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 17:48 |