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Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...


My friends, from 1988 until 1999, there was a little show that touched all of us in one way or another. A show that showed all of us just how fun bad movies could really be if you had some friends to watch them with you...or at least a pair of snarky robot sidekicks. And now, almost 17 years later, we stand here about to receive the greatest gift we could have ever asked for. But let's cut to the chase.

I've been living under a rock for the past 30 years, what is Mystery Science Theater 3000?

Well, I'm glad you asked. MST3k follows a relatively simple premise: A mad scientist decides that in order to rule the world he has to suck out everyone's will to oppose him by subjecting them to the worst movie ever made. But in order to find that movie, he first sets up a test subject in orbit around Earth. That test subject takes parts of the satellite he is held hostage within and builds robot companions to sit through the movies with. A series of misunderstandings occur which allow the original test subject to escape the satellite, forcing the scientist to replace him with a guy he got from a temp agency. Eventually, the scientist's mother takes over the experiment along with her sidekicks, a super-intelligent gorilla from the future and a omnipotent sort-of-all-knowing pasty guy with a brain in a bowl.

Bottom line, schlubs are sent into space to watch the best worst movies of all time. And some of the absolute worst films of all time, I'm looking at you, Monster-A-Go-Go. And it's been immensely influential, popping up in things as random as Futurama to Arrested Development....and what may be the most out of left field reference of all goddamned time.

Your premise interests me. Where is a good place to get started on this series?

Glad you asked. Really, you can start in just about any era, whether it be right at the beginning in Season 1, or when the series was sort-of-not-really-rebooted on the Sci-Fi channel in Season 8. Personally, I recommend starting earlier, and getting a feel for the show before you tackle some of the truly legendary terrible movies the series featured. No man should venture into the depths of Manos: The Hands of Fate unprepared. No matter what, you'll start to pick a favorite era for each of the hosts.

Ok, so what are some episodes you recommend from each of these eras?

Well, that's gonna differ from person to person, but I'll sum up my own personal picks of good entry-level episodes.


The Joel Era

Featuring: Joel Hodgson as Joel Robinson, Kevin Murphy/J. Elvis Weinstein as Tom Servo, Trace Beaulieu as Dr. Clayton Forrester/Crow T. Robot, Frank Conniff as TV's Frank

The Crawling Eye
Robot Monster
Godzilla Vs Megalon
Gamera (and all the sequels)
The Amazing Colossal Man & War of the Colossal Beast
It Conquered the World
Teenagers from Outer Space
Bride of the Monster
Eegah!


The Mike Era

Featuring: Michael J. Nelson as Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy as Tom Servo/Professor Bobo, Trace Beaulieu as Dr. Clayton Forrester/Crow T. Robot, Bill Corbett as Brain Guy/Crow T. Robot, Frank Conniff as TV's Frank, Mary-Jo Pehl as Pearl Forrester.

The Brain That Wouldn't Die
Beginning of the End
Zombie Nightmare
MST3K The Movie/This Island Earth
Revenge of the Creature
Space Mutiny
Werewold

Joel's era as host does have more jumping-on points, but honestly, you can't go wrong with This Island Earth.

Hang on, does the thread title say something about a "revival"? What's going on there?


drat right there's a revival happening! With that, we begin the "Jonah Era" of the show. Show creator and original host Joel Hodgson announced a Kickstarter drive in November of 2015 to fund a new season of the show, with the hope that it might be picked up by one of the networks or streaming services. The drive raised over 6.3 Million Dollars, making the MST3k Revival the largest Film/Video Kickstarter of all time. Preproduction starts January 4th, 2016 with a target of 12 13 14 New Episodes with the new cast...and who are these lovely people?


Well, we have stand-up Jonah Ray as Jonah Heston, Hampton Yount as Crow, Baron Vaughn as Tom, Felicia Day as Kinga Forrester (daughter of Clayton), and Patton Goddamned Oswalt as TV's Son of TV's Frank! In addition, many celebrity fans of the show have expressed interest in appearing during host segments such as Jack Black, Neil Patrick Harris, Bill Hader, and - no joke - Mark Hamill! Once we have an actual airdate start, the OP will be updated with such.

How can I get caught up on the old episodes?

Well the good people at Shout! Factory regularly issue boxsets of at least 4 episodes a few times a year (generally you get 2 Joel and 2 Mike episodes per), and are now re-releasing the older sets originally published by Rhino Video. In addition, you can buy episodes from iTunes...but then they only work on your iOS device. For more flexibility, I personally recommend either the DVD's, or the good people and former cast members/writers of MST3k at RiffTrax release a new digital episode of classic MST every Monday for about $10 USD. Finally, you can go to The Official YouTube Channel to stream select episodes for free. (My advice is to turn annotations off because holy poo poo do they get inane and annoying.)

So please, sit back, grab some friends, catch up on one of the greatest shows of all time. Around here we mostly just quote it endlessly, with occasional interludes, but with work on the new episodes starting soon, likely coming out sometime this new year, we all have something to look forward to.



Wait, if they're on a satellite, where do the air and food come from?

Buddy, it's a television program. Calm down.

Ensign_Ricky fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 2, 2016

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Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

MrAristocrates posted:

I'm not allowed to talk to people who aren't in the movie.

Goodbye Joe!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
BUZZ OFF KID!!!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

CaptainYesterday posted:

The OP mentions Shout! Factory is re-releasing all the Rhino volumes. I know Volume 1 has already been re-released, but I didn't hear about the others. Is there a timetable?

Not that I'm aware of, but my understanding is that with Rhino gone, Shout is planning on doing new releases under their brand.

Sash! posted:

This thread already has the bacony stink of Canada all over it

How did you know I'm Canadian?

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

NowonSA posted:

My god, years of only using quotes when discussing MST3k has made it the only method of communication we can remember. What has science dooooone?!

We tampered in God's domain.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Literally Kermit posted:

Preeeesent, movie!

Gah, it's presenting like a mandrill!

edit: On that note, I updated the OP with a link to what I call "the most out of left field reference of all goddamned time":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvL39XfRXXM

Ensign_Ricky fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 2, 2016

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Sash! posted:

You know what, I'm just giving in and looking at the breasts

You know fellas, there's quite a lot of skin in this pitcha!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
So I checked and yes, this is a real app that someone put time and effort into building. Are you ready?




There's no way you're ready. BEHOLD!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Maxwell Lord posted:

Hey, kids! Today's secret word is "booger!" Booger booger booger booger boog-

Now we're gonna be hearing the word "panties" a lot, so let's just get all those giggles out.

Panties, panties, panties, panties...

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
And this week's MST3k release from Rifftrax is...The Black Scorpion!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Hijinks Ensue posted:

Super Bob Vila!

Now what we're doin here Bob is gettin killed by a werewolf...

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Dungeon Ecology posted:

I love the one about the car salesman

"We'll do it like my father told me:
You! -- Put a towel on your head, You! -- swat at imaginary flies!"

"But he bought the car!"

Hired!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
I desperately want the revival to tackle "Paper and I", which features the cellulose equivalent of Coily. I know Rifftrax also did it, but nothing says that they can't do a different riff.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

SirPhoebos posted:

G-guys, I had a horrible nightmare last night: I dreamt....I was Arch Hall Jr.! :cry:

AHHHHHH!

(I sincerely hope that the revival has another Arch Hall Jr movie. The guy's IMDB is loaded. )

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
I'd love for the revival to tackle either THEM! or The Monolith Monsters. Particularly the latter simply because the premise is so frigging nuts compared to most Universal monster films.


Alternate non-scifi/horror option: Hitler: Dead or Alive! Tarentino basically lifted the entire plot for Inglorious Basterds....but the original still has a mobster doing a flying drive-by on a German fighter plane with a Tommy gun.

Then later he shaves Hitler while calling him "Toots". It's loving amazing.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Sash! posted:

I'm not sure how its possible to not remember Ecks vs. Sever.

It should be written on our collective memory as something we should strive to overcome as a civilization. We should look back on it like "this is something our society produced," and work to better ourselves so something like it can never happen again.

The only thing worth remembering about Ecks vs Sever is that it was the first Hollywood movie to shoot in Vancouver...for a movie set in Vancouver.

But then you get to the whole thing about Vancouver being a hotbed of international intrigue and....no. Just no.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

BooDoug187 posted:

I would love it if they riffed on "Perversion for Profit". It's an anti porn PSA that links porn to the fall of Rome and a commie plot to destroy America! And also that men's fitness magazines are created by homosexuals to corrupt young boys into catching the gay and becoming homosexual too!

On that note, "Boys Beware".

Holy poo poo that one is such utter 1950s homophobia it's loving hilarious.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Action Jacktion posted:

Vilmos Zsigmond: Oscar-winning cinematographer who worked with such directors as Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, and Robert Altman, but before all that he was camera operator on The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies. And though he didn't work on Eegah he did work on several other movies with Arch Hall Sr. and Jr.

Just goes to show that it doesn't matter what piece of poo poo you worked on previously, you too could luck into being the cinematographer on goddamned Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

holttho posted:

Yea, and the second attempt didn't have any of the budget, script, actors, or any of those other pesky details that the first try had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_a_Go-Go

You know, considering HG Lewis's involvement, Monster-A-Go-Go could've ended up unwatchable for so many other reasons.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

holttho posted:

Ugh... Porn bill came in today...

I am learning a LOT about porn!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY!!

This year's Rifftrax Kickstarter is up...only listing one show for sure so far. Time Chasers and a special Rifftrax Live show with special guest stars Trace, Frank, Bridget, Mary Jo, possibly Joel & Josh...and the revival cast!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rifftrax/rifftrax-live-2016-mst3k-reunion-time-chasers-live

Ensign_Ricky fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 9, 2016

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

ixnay posted:

Two shows, Time Chasers is just Mike/Kevin/Bill in May, the MST3K reunion show is in June and it sounds like they'll be riffing a bunch of shorts for that one

My bad, I got over excited.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
At least Trace came out and admitted that he was just being snarky for the sake of snark.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Jack Gladney posted:

Has Jim Mallon said anything? Has he ever said anything after the end of mst3k?

"MALLON NEED MONEYS! MAKE lovely WEBSERIES ABOUT BOTS BUT NO RIFFING!! ARGHGHAHGHAR!!"

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Big Mean Jerk posted:

My uncle worked on Hobgoblins and gets extremely bitter whenever you mention the MST3K episode. He also (at one point) worked for the guy who produced Girl in Gold Boots and made a big show of defending "his artistic vision".

:laugh:

Oh no no no, you don't get off that easy. Now you have to tell us exactly what he did on Hobgoblins.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Big Mean Jerk posted:

how Ted Mikels was unfairly slandered by MST3K because they didn't understand the nuances of his filmmaking.

I almost did a literal spit-take at this. Shall we consider the filmography of one Ted V. Mikels? Here's a sampling:

Dr. Sex
The Black Klansman
The Astro-Zombies
The Corpse Grinders
War Cat (Don't let the name fool you, it's a cross between Rambo and I Spit on Your Grave.)
Apartheid Slave-Woman's Justice

Then again, the guy lived in a castle near Vegas with live-in strippers for several years, so what the hell do I know.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
SQUEE!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Powered Descent posted:

It has come to my attention that I have utterly failed my nephews (my sister's sons) by not introducing them to the wonder that is MST3K. These boys are now ten and twelve years old.

So I ask you, thread, what are the best experiments to introduce kids of this age to the wonderful world of MST3K?

My first instinct is to show them the terrible movies I knew and loved in the 90s. Particularly the Joel episodes, for the backstory. Cave Dwellers, The Amazing Colossal Man. Maybe Mitchell for continuity. Then some wonderful Mike episodes like Prince of Space or Space Mutiny.

My biggest fear here is that the Bob Packwood jokes will just go right past them and they'll say, in effect, "meh". MST, with its silly puppet robots, sits in that weird intersection between childish and adult humor, and I don't want to accidentally hit them with college humor in middle school, or the other way around.

But I don't know a drat thing about kids. I just want my nephews to laugh at Tom and Crow with me. Help me, MST thread. You're my only hope.

My daughter loving loves Revenge of the Creature. She first saw it when she was five, and two years later still laughs her rear end off at it.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Diabolik900 posted:

Is she in heaven?

She's some gal!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

SeedyV posted:

My patent papers are at a slight angle Sam, what's going on?

Sam, my patent papers are wondering why we stopped!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Evil Mastermind posted:

This can't BEEEE?!

You're invisiblllllllle?!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
So Kim Cattrall has now stated she wants to go to the MST reunion.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Twenty years ago today, MST3k the Movie hit theatres!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Suddenly I have a refreshing mint flavor!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Dungeon Ecology posted:

came here to post this

It's probably one of the top 5 MST riffs of all time I'd say, just based on how much it still makes me laugh.

Powered Descent posted:

GI Joe action set!
Nerdy Joe not included.

Into the Weenie-Mobile.....WEENIE MAN AWAY!!!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Then I ram my ovipositor down your throat and lay my eggs in your chest...but I'm not an alien!!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
Eat my photons, small-heads!

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

BooDoug187 posted:

I'm hiding in one of these boxes Joe, try to find me!

We'll start here...at goofy clown face.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...
I'm still miffed that the scene of the German guy getting zapped by Brack was cut for the film. Exploding German riffs write themselves.

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Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
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Seems like a good time to repost this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXibTZcUDUQ

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