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raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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I wonder if that's how they'll be doing the intro from now on.

Also, I didn't hear Dog on Fire. Where is Dog on Fire? :ohdear:

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raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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I like Trevor and the correspondents and I think the show has been great.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Murdered children is sad and all, but what about the terrorists???

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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The whole "sneaker market" has always been the dumbest loving thing to me. It just baffles me that people care that loving much.

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Feb 21, 2001

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IRQ posted:

If he'd cried about the terror attacks they'd be all like "Look how weak Obama is what a terrible leader showing how weak America is that loving pussy weak surrender monkey."

Obama can't win no matter what he does.

Which is why it's good that he's finally taken the step of Not Giving a gently caress.
I wish he had started doing it years sooner.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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This segment is fantastic and I hope they do more of them.

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Feb 21, 2001

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Botnit posted:

That wasn't even the worst thing to me, it was this happening in Sandy Hook


Our six year olds have been conditioned by now to recognize what the gently caress is going down before anything is even coming close to being done about it. Bananas.

That in turn is not nearly as bad as the conspiracy theorist shitbags who think a bunch of dead children were all just actors.

GreenNight posted:

Are you kidding me? Those assholes don't have limits, they'll poo poo on Obama even if it was his kids that died. They give no fucks. They are absolutely terrible.

Honestly I'm surprised they haven't devolved into TMZ-level obsessive snarkiness over the Obama kids in seven years.

...this is the part where someone links an example of Fox News doing exactly that.

raditts fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jan 9, 2016

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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IRQ posted:

You didn't see the vaccine episode did you?


I really don't like Trevor's new stand in front of a screen thing for the first segment. I also don't like the new song.

CHANGE FRIGHTENS AND CONFUSES ME

The standing thing is fine. The new song / remix / whatever is straight loving garbage though. It seems so... Poochie-esque, like I half expect Trevor to put on sunglasses when it starts up.

Echo Chamber posted:

Larry to his credit pretty much called anti-vaxxers idiots in that episode. Too bad that point got washed away in the panel.

Nightly doubled down on Jordan Carlos' Rodman impression last night. Ugh.

The first segment is usually watchable enough for the 5-6 minutes before Colbert starts and I flip over to that, but I've long given up on the rest. It's weird because I think Larry himself is pretty funny outside the context of the show, and that first segment is usually okay as long as he doesn't have any of his terrible correspondents doing terrible impressions (or anything else, really), but the show in its entirety is a loving dumpster fire.

Gyges posted:

Trevor has to build up his reputation to the point where Jon was, which was part of why the guests were generally good by the time Jon quit. Of course Jon did still have guests you don't care about, but you forgot about them over time so you have a skewed view of the average Daily Show guest. Most of the time the guest portion is the weakest part of the episode anyway and the most common viewing recommendation is to watch the first two segments and either fast forward to the moment of zen or turn it off.

I usually only keep the third segment on because I don't feel like changing the channel. I think Trevor's okay interview wise, I probably actively paid attention to an equal number of Trevor interviews as I did Jon interviews in his last year.

raditts fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 13, 2016

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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"We had socialism for 100 years and it didn't work out"? What the gently caress is this dipshit talking about.
On the one hand I wish Jon was here to destroy this mealy-mouthed fucker, but then again if Jon were here this guy wouldn't have the balls to come on this show.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Narcissus1916 posted:

That Sanders puff piece was not very good. At all.

No real insight or analysis, reheated jokes... ugh.

And I liked Monday's show, weirdly enough.

Well, this is the first episode I've seen where they've talked about him in anything but a mocking fashion, so I guess they're playing catch up now.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Oh please. The first couple years of Jon's run loving sucked.

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IRQ posted:

It's not as good as the Report but it's not bad at all, aside from the dumbass band.

The first 15 or so minutes are enough to sate the still-lingering heartache from the Report ending. The interviews are mostly boring, but then they were never that great on TCR either so I can still turn my TV off around midnight.

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Mendicant posted:

you know what i want to hear more about in the next episode of TDS that i will not watch: africa

Thank god you showed up in a thread for a TV show you don't watch to inform us you do not watch said show

how would we have gotten by without this vital information

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Gyges posted:

What the fact is good, but talking about O'Malley wasn't good. Poor guy's entire branding looks like some sort of Buddhist knock off Miracle Whip. It's text book punching down, like making fun of the fat smelly kid when his mom doesn't pick him up after school.



That was nothing next to Wolf Blitzer going full Mean Girl on Lincoln Chafee.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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I'll box your eyes out, you benedict cumberbatch!

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Feb 21, 2001

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Echo Chamber posted:

That children's book is lovely and racist not just for how it portrays slavery as a whole, but because we know specifically about house slaves who hated their treatment from the Washingtons that they escaped.

(I feel guilty when I have more to say about last night's Nightly than Daily.)

The hilarious part is that Hercules, the happy slave chef portrayed in this book, was one of those slaves who escaped.

On George Washington's birthday.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Clearly nobody ever told Trevor about Ted DiBiase.

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Dr Christmas posted:

Was that Jon doing the Gitmo voice?

Gonna go out on a limb and assume that it's more likely that someone who is not Jon did the easily imitable Elmo voice as opposed to Jon coming back solely to do the voice for a two-second Elmo parody except for actual Elmo and not the Elmo parody character.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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God, can Melting Canadian Wax Figure go one single goddamn day without looking and acting like a giant poo poo?

Pillow Hat posted:

I thought the gold segment was hilarious.

Yeah, I don't know what the gently caress he was watching.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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The only real problem with that Whitesboro seal is that it looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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That was some Archie Bunker level poo poo right there.

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Feb 21, 2001

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Pillow Hat posted:

I'm glad the seal was changed because despite a (surprisingly) reasonable explanation that (surprisingly) checks out, it's important to consider how it looks regardless. It's sort of like people who get swastika tattoos for Buddhist reasons (which, by the way mcbexx, would have been a much less asinine comparison). Like sure, maybe you're not racist and maybe it's a symbol of peace in your mind -- but you sure as hell look like a racist rear end in a top hat.

Yeah, it's like it makes sense when you know the story behind it, but if you need to give a backstory for why your picture is not as bad as it looks then you may want to consider you have a perception problem.

As for the buddhist symbols, those are called manji and the difference is that they are set at a 90-degree angle while swastikas are tilted at a 45-degree angle. I feel bad for cases like that because it preceded swastikas by hundreds of years (and I'm told that maps in Japan don't use them to mark actual Buddhist temples anymore for that very reason), but unfortunately it's much harder to clean up an image when some rear end in a top hat ruins it with things like genocide.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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JazzFlight posted:

I find the problem is that Trevor Noah is almost a non-entity. He reads a bunch of jokes in a row in a jovial manner. It seems fake. I want him to say something off the cuff or get fired up about something. Hell, talk about interesting things going on in Africa that us Americans might not know about. I like John Oliver because he gets pissed about stuff and uncovers interesting stories that the media glosses over.

The only reason to currently watch TDS is the correspondent pieces.

He talks about and references Africa all the time. I mean poo poo, a couple pages ago in this very thread someone was crying specifically because he talks about Africa.

RugClockVexx posted:

Could it be Slate's piece?

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/cover_story/2016/01/why_america_isn_t_paying_attention_to_the_daily_show_with_trevor_noah_in.html

"..I am the exact kind of person the new Daily Show is targeting...yet I have found The Daily Show milquetoast and broad, diverting in the soothing way I associate with the Jimmys of network late night. On Trevor Noah’s Daily Show, outrages are an occasion for bemused laughter, not righteously funny indignation." - Willa Paskin, Slate Person

That's right folks, milquetoast, bemused and righteous funny indignation. We're through the looking glass people.

The most surprising thing about this is the idea that people actually give a poo poo about Slate articles.

raditts fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jan 26, 2016

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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TNS is the same as it ever was. Great when it's an issue Larry cares about, shitawful otherwise, unwatchable whenever they do a bit with one of the side characters.

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Feb 21, 2001

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Pillow Hat posted:

He got all serious just the other day when Fox was giving Obama poo poo for crying about the murder of first graders. I thought he did a great job of it, too. The audience seemed a little unsure of how to react, though -- like they kept expecting him to make a joke but he was just serious.

There's also the two or three mass shootings that happened weeks after he came on board.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Did Larry just say "twat"?

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Pillow Hat posted:

Plus, I would add that although his standard American voice is not awesome, every other nationality he has done has been spot on to my ear. All Jon really had was the Brooklyn guy.

His Ben Carson impression is great.

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Botnit posted:

Jon knew his impressions were complete poo poo, Trevor thinks his are amazing judging by him laughing at himself after each one.

His impressions are good though.

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Madkal posted:

It's pretty much shown that Trump has absolutely no crossover appeal whatsoever. The guy has pretty much built a platform on that by pissing off everything to appease a few nutjobs. The Republican Party knows this and the Democrats would love nothing more than to run against a nutjob. The idea of Trump toning it down if he gets the nomination will probably do poo poo all come election time. Every stupid thing he has said is now out there in the open for everyone to see, and we know Trump won't back down or apologise.

I'm still not totally convinced that Trump even intends to win, or that he's doing anything other than as an egocentric commercial for Donald TrumpTM as is everything else in his pathetic life. The only thing about this is that he's actively making everyone who might care about that kind of thing loving hate him. A bunch of hateful right wing hillbillies aren't going to do anything for him besides maybe watch whatever vanity commercial masquerading as a reality gameshow he manages to land next.

That said, either the GOP establishment is going to manage to oust him and put up one of the other bumblers in their sideshow to lose the election, or it's too late and they've already lost all control because they've fed the beast too much. Either way, there's gonna be a meltdown, and it's gonna be glorious.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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I had a chat with someone on Facebook yesterday who was asserting that Sanders won't get any traction with minorities because he refuses to address the issue of reparations, and Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote some big thinkpiece on it or something. Is this a widely held thought? Because I haven't heard much of his other thoughts regarding race issues, but I don't think it diminishes him against literally every other candidate who also is not addressing the issue, and reparations doesn't crack my personal top 10 as far as "issues as a black person in America." Yet this person was convinced that this was the singular thing that would make him unelectable.

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Toxxupation posted:

Sanders' refusal to acknowledge that yeah, blacks deserve reparations is weird, but it could very easily be a totally pragmatic move since he mine as well insist on wiping out the debt of the bottom 50% of Americans and/or make all educational services free if people actually think that blacks will get reparations ever

See, this is what I think too, it's just not going to ever loving happen. It would be nice if it did, but nobody who matters is gonna be the first one to ram their head against that wall. But this dude was insistent that given the right people, it would be no more complex than putting universal healthcare into effect or providing free education services, which is an absurdly loving naive assertion.

e: And yeah, the most bizarre thing about it to me is that he seems to be the only one that has to answer these questions while literally every other candidate gets a pass. It makes no sense, isn't saying something about any issues better than saying nothing at all? Or is this one of those millenial tumblr generation things I'm too old to understand where they're so fickle that a single wrong word turns the tide completely?

raditts fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jan 28, 2016

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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Gave it a read, he makes some good points in there re: the varied aspects of institutionalized racism but it seems to only complicate things further because Coates seems to be of the mind that reparations should go beyond slavery to "literally every hosed up thing white people have done" and then just dropping the mic to leave it to someone else as to how the logistics for any of that would be remotely possible. It seems to be the basis for his argument and yet he acknowledges right off the top that there's no way it would ever happen, but then insists at the end that it has to happen. The whole thing feels really intellectually dishonest to me.

I guess I'm just of the mind that while acknowledging these issues is important, addressing them is a matter far beyond "throw enough money at it and it will be fixed" and to focus on that is a waste of everyone's time.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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So Trevor made another Africa parallel. Someone let me know if we are criticizing him for talking too much about Africa today or for not talking about Africa enough.

Pillow Hat posted:

Yeah I understand your criticism but at the same time why should the onus be on black people to try to figure out the logistics of how we can begin to address the continued legacy of slavery?

I don't think it should be on black peopleTM. I think it should be on him in particular, since he is making guidelines for what he thinks should be covered as part of reparations. It's hypocritical for him to criticize Sanders for proposing education reform without (in his opinion) a realistic plan for making it work, then turning around and saying "all this poo poo needs to be accounted for" and then also providing no realistic plan for making it work.

Eiba posted:

That's not really what I get from it. Just the opposite actually. It sounds like he's saying we should bother to look into obvious injustices in living memory. That's what "reparations" are to him, it seems. Not "every drat thing" beyond slavery, but, you know, the things that actually happened to people who are still alive. If that's an overwhelming task... well that's all the more hosed up, but it's kind of all the more immediate and necessary. It sounds really reasonable to me. At least as reasonable as the socialism of Bernie Sanders that I find myself vocally supporting (though I'm still surprised anyone remotely mainstream is expressing it).

If that is the case, he has a far different idea as to what comprises "reparations" than anyone else I've ever talked to.

raditts fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jan 28, 2016

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Eiba posted:

Check it out yourself. I may be misreading him, but he does say, "My case for reparations was not centered on long-dead enslaved black people, but actual living African Americans who’d been wronged, well within living memory."

I think that just makes it further intellectually dishonest to have a personal definition of something, then to criticize someone without considering they are not looking at it with the same definition you are.

Pillow Hat posted:

I respectfully disagree. I think people often fall into the trap of thinking that the inability to solve a problem precludes accurate analysis of it in the first place, but I don't see it that way. It's been probably over a year since I read that Coates piece, and I should definitely return to it. But I think it's reasonable for an author to say in broad terms what he sees as important steps to take without having all the supportive logistics figured out.

Listing important steps is one thing, saying "you haven't figured out how to address these important steps and therefore you're a phony" is another.

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On the other hand, Sanders is running for office, not writing think pieces. He should have an actionable plan to achieve his goals. Just my two cents.

For all you know, maybe he does. Coates seems to be assuming he doesn't based on the word of Krugman.
And asking questions is fine. Myself, I'm not out to defend Sanders here so much as to criticize Coates's viewpoint, which seems like an unfair one to me.

raditts fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Jan 28, 2016

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Pillow Hat posted:

I just mean since Fiorina in particular gave such an impassioned speech about it. Regardless of your opinion on the matter, she bought into it hook, line, and sinker (at least publicly) and it turns out it was completely fabricated. It's like it was her first time on the internet as a naive child and she believed everything she saw even though it was posted to /b/ by a user named AbortionIsDelicious420Guy.

You say that as though she didn't know it was totally fabricated and she wasn't faking the funk to get a piece of that sweet right-wing lunatic chedda.
She kept on with that "VIDEOS OF BABYS BEING CHOPPED UP WHILE STILL ALIVE" horse poo poo long after it was proven to be a hoax. She's not that clueless.

raditts
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haveblue posted:

This thread doesn't seem to like admitting it watches the Nightly Show. Still, that was pretty great.

Oh, was there a good part? I usually watch the first / sometimes second segment before switching over to Colbert, but whenever one of his sidekicks is playing one of their lovely unfunny characters I immediately tune out and they brought one of those like 3 minutes in last night.

raditts
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Neil has StarTalk, which manages to be drier and more boring than TNS.

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Maxwell Lord posted:

The Golden Girls theme really is the best.

Just edged out by the "I'm Black Ya'll" song from CB4 over an ad with zero black people in it.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

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IRQ posted:

Bernie had a name recognition problem when you're talking about Hillary Clinton who was a high profile person 20 years ago and never really went away. Bernie has been pretty consistently marginalized so unless you were already buying what he was selling you didn't know who he was. In the last couple weeks I've had minority coworkers say hey that Bernie guy has the right idea*, so maybe the more exposure he gets the better he does? It's not like very many people are enthusiastic about Hillary.


* No I am not one of those annoying sanders evangelicals.


e: autocomplete badness

Somebody I know has been talking about how she is voting for Hillary based upon how "Bernie bros" act online. I'm sure there's some insufferable contingent of Sanders supporters as there is for every candidate, but is it to a Ron Paul-ish degree where they've earned a label for themselves?

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raditts
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I used to enjoy watching reruns of it when such at home on summer afternoons with nothing better on between Who's the Boss and whatever else they used to show. It's the second best tv theme I can recite verbatim behind Fresh Prince.

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