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Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

I think City have been pretty patient with their managers really. It's pretty rough sacking old Manuel but if Pep is available I think they had to do it- doubly so because two of their biggest rivals for the league need a new manager.

Will be very interesting to see what United and Chelsea do now. Jose to United and Simeone to Chelsea are perfect fits tbh and would make the league a very interesting place. I hope United do something stupid and give Giggs the job and Chelsea hire Hughes.

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Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Hardflip posted:

garde considering his future

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...le-signing.html

gonna guess it's a case of "we're going down anyway, why even try"

Villa are hosed under Lerner.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Homura posted:

In all honesty, it might be better for them to go down and get rid of that crop of shite they have on their payroll

Last time I said this everyone gave me poo poo.

I mean getting relegated would undoubtedly be a bad thing but if it meant Lerner sold up to an owner that cared about the club and got rid of the high earners that don't contribute then long term maybe it would be for the best.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

straight up brolic posted:

All of the Villa supporters groups I'm a part of on facebook are melting down the nth degree it's loving pathetic. We were down 8 weeks ago, why bother signing someone that'll insist on a relegation release clause?

To be fair, if Lerner had promised Garde funds and reneged then I'd be pretty angry too.

You can buy now for next year in the Championship. Villa still have pulling power given the league they're in- next year won't be as easy.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

sassassin posted:

Tim Sherwood has done a good job at every team he's managed. No one could have done better with Villa's players this season.

Would you like him to manage Swansea?

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Unless Lerner sells to someone competent Villa aren't coming back any time soon. There are some talented teams in the Championship who are happy to spend and whoever else gets relegated is likely to be more ambitious (with a better starting squad) too.

Seriously who in Villa's squad is actual Premier League quality? Amavi looked decent before he died and Gil and Traore could potentially be very good but other than that there is very little talent.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

straight up brolic posted:

lmao if you think we can't outspend all the teams in the championship. Reminder that Rudy Gestede was a loving world beater in that division.

Oh you can...it's a question of Lerner actually doing that though. Also your track record of bringing players in has been bad for a long time now.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Dunban posted:

Klopp is a massive fraud and I'm doing all the moves

Considering he hasn't bought a single player and our two best players are injured I wouldn't quite go that far.

We need to basically rebuild the entire squad and I can't think of too many manager I'd rather be here to do that. As long as the transfer committee doesn't gently caress everything up they will

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

straight up brolic posted:

It's gonna be sick when Leicester/Spurs win the premier league and everyone melts down.

I think everyone would love if Leicester won tbh

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Given the poo poo we've bought in the last few years I'm glad we are actually taking our time to evaluate this properly before buying. The last thing we need is to spend for the sake of spending and bring in sub par players. Lord knows we have enough of those already.

Honestly there isn't a single player in the tear at the moment that I'd she'd too many tears over if they left. Coutinho and Sturridge are the closest things we have to great and the former is wildly inconsistent and the latter is dead (or crazy). Everyone else is either serviceable or poo poo.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Hegay posted:

Liverpool and their transfer committee is probably the worst decision ever (they got rid of it. right?). That squad has zero tactical cohesion and Klopp will have to offload like 10 players. Also why haven't they recalled Lazar whatever? I thought Klopp loved fast wingers

I don't think we were able to. Also I've never seen a player with such little confidence as Markovic. He's obviously talented but seems scared to take any kind of risks. I'm hoping we see a bit more of him next season but I could honestly see him being sold if someone put in a decent bid.

I can't imagine someone with the reputation of Klopp would take a job that is probably beneath him if he didn't have a big say in transfers. Especially given the 'committee's' record. Guess we will find out in the summer. I'm optimistic things will be better but I'm under no illusions this will be a slow process.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Hegay posted:

Lol Liverpool has spent £291m in transfers the past few years?? jfc, that's the worst scouting ever

Yep, horrendous stuff really.

Rafa made huge changes to the youth and scouting team and thing got a lot better but all that work has been undone sadly. They should give him a director of football role and let him run the club without having to deal with the media and players.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

julian assflange posted:

Yes but Manchester United spent A QUARTER OF A BILLION POUNDS!

And that's just on Januzaj's wages!

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

julian assflange posted:

He makes me mad in the same way Nani did

Nani actually did stuff sometimes. Januzaj is the biggest myth ever. He'll end up at Stoke or Newcastle next season before going back to Belgium.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Redundant posted:

The ridiculous player turnover is part of the reason Liverpool are so gash. It's hilarious OP, and what's even better is that the fans want more of the same. Truly a great time to be alive.

Actually most of us in here were pretty happy we weren't spending money this window.

The squad is the worst it's been since it got Hodgson'ed (even then we still had some world class players though) so an overhaul is needed but it needs to be done with an actual plan. Not a plan that involves Downing and Adam hitting long balls to Andy Carroll though.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Brony Car posted:

Man, I yearn for the days of Jay Spearing, Joe Cole, Paul Konchesky, and Christian Poulsen...

We might just be using different terminology, but I don't think the squad is as bad as you say it is. It's just horribly imbalanced. There are no defensive-minded midfielders besides Lucas and no actual wingers. Fullback cover is almost non-existent. There are way too many No. 10-style players who have to get shoehorned into roles they aren't great at and too many box-to-box runners full of industry (but not creativity or goals). That being said, there's a lot of technical skill in the side and many players are young enough that they will improve and become more consistent.

I wonder how much of this imbalance comes from Liverpool trying to use stat-heavy Billy Beane bullshit. Relying too much on numbers without a critical eye is what makes target man strikers like Carroll look so attractive and why Liverpool continually keep trying to find one who works with the rest of Liverpool's team without success. I suspect other positions like holding midfielders or deeper-lying playmakers probably don't get to goose their stats in the same way, which is why the the Committee don't get excited about them and don't address those squad gaps.

Rodgers didn't help things by having an atrocious eye for talent himself, but his failures have been pretty well discussed at this point.

As far as a squad goes I actually think it's okay. Lots of 7/10 players that can do serviceable jobs but there is a distinct lack of tip tier talent that we can base a side around. Under Rafa we had Carra, Gerrard, Alonso, Masch, Torres and Pepe; under Kenny we still had some of those players as we did with Hodgson, when Rodgers took over we still had a performing Gerrard, a fit Daniel Sturridge and quite possibly the best player Liverpool has ever had in Suarez. Who do we have now? Coutinho hasn't improved since he's joined imo (although he's still very good), Henderson looks to have plateued, Sturridge is probably not top far off retiring given his problems...

Our scouting department needs a huge overhaul as we continually are buying the wrong players for the type of football we play. Benteke is a classic example; he's a good player but is so incompatible with how we play that he looks like an amatuer out there.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Blinkz0rz posted:

lmao at all of the scouse meltdowns in this thread

You support a third rate club that dreams of past glory and imo it's hilarious

Lol don't you worry, your time will come once United come and steal all your players (and possibly manager) and you return to being a joke of a club that will forever been in your greatest rivals shadow.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

What's with United supporters getting all excited about Mourinho anyway? Isn't he the exact antithesis to the 'United Way' in that he plays negative football and never plays youth?

It's almost as though the 'United Way' was a bunch of mythical bullshit and all that really mattered was results no matter how they came eh?

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

The Big Taff Man posted:

I dont know anyone whos excited at the prospect of mourinho tbh




This guy looks pretty excited

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

I liked the bit where we had like seventy percent possession, were up two goals, then Sunderland scored with their only two shots of the game.

What the gently caress is wrong with us.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Wengy posted:

"Relevant, modern and flexible"

Did they get the same people who did Michael Owen's brochure to do it?

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

straight up brolic posted:

Benteke owns but you have to integrate him into a team concept. He can't be the focal point or the 'one player that offers something a bit different'. despite what people think he's a very good passer and our team scored a lot of goals with him on the ball passing to wingers.

Klopp and Rodgers just want to throw him on the pitch and lump the ball at him seemingly. He's not even that big.

e: like if Klopp wants everyone to press hard and retain the ball when they get it he's the wrong player. Straight up. That doesn't make him bad, it make's him bad for that style.

I'd have a lot more sympathy for him if he didn't continually botch one on one's.

He is actually a useful passer of the ball but without proper wingers we have no one running off him. Given how Dortmund played I'm going to say some fast wide players will be a priority for Klopp so there is still hope Benteke will come good.

In saying that if a decent offer came in I'd get rid.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Frankston posted:

Benteke, like Milner, should come back home to Aston villa.

They've been two of our worst performers this year so I'd be open to it. You can have Mignolet too if you like.

Thankfully it sounds like Daniel Sturridge will be starting against Villa on Sunday.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Elliptical Dick posted:

football is dead, you heard it here first guys.

Leicester winning the league might revive it temporarily.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Flanagan is great cover for Clyne and I would hate to see him sold. He's looked pretty decent (well football wise) for someone who has been out for so long too.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Brony Car posted:

God. Sunderland are going to survive again.

If you don't want Sunderland to survive at Newcastle's expense then you are a humorless man.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

I really don't want Tottenham to win the league. My order would be Leicester then Arsenal then City then Spurs.

Villa are gone and maybe Newcastle and Norwich with them. All three have awful defences and don't have the attack to make up for it. Sunderland have a poo poo squad but Allardyce knows how to play negative football while grinding out a point or three. McClaren is absolutely clueless imo and one of the biggest frauds in football. He can't motivate a team for poo poo. I'd love Norwich to stay up this time but there are just too many weaknesses in that squad. As for Villa they're gone and not coming back until they're sold.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

I hate Sunderland and Sam Allardyce but I think it would be pretty funny if they survive over Newcastle. Also if Mourinho comes back then Allardyce can continue to piss him off.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Is there any hope for Depay? He's looked so so bad when I've seen him play

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Byolante posted:

Well, if you are his manager you look at who can play that weekend and think 'this lad is unplayable'. Also that Stoke fuckup made me lol so hard I broke a rib, I still watch the vid if I need a sensible chuckle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJ-NFvquTM

it even has a bojan goal in it, what more could you want

How did that header go absolutely nowhere haha

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

euroboy posted:

It's fascinating to read about the internal power struggles at Manchester United, from Red Issue https://twitter.com/RedIssue

Sounds like a James Ellroy book.

I really hope they give Giggs the job.

Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

julian assflange posted:

Did you just quote an Ewar Woowar post and replace Klopp with LVG and Liverpool with United?

Lol. This checks out to be fair.

You'd have thought thirty plus years of watching Liverpool would have dented my optimism really.

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Ewar Woowar
Feb 25, 2007

Byolante posted:

Can someone please explain why men in blazers called stoke the manitowa sherrifs

I'm assuming it's because they're both cunts.

It's not funny and it's no longer really true.

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