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quote:But despite his lack of malice, Bertie is not completely off the hook, and neither is P.G. Wodehouse. When I look up the history of the word “friend of the family” in England, I find frequent references to it being a generally accepted word, one that was in common usage well into the 1940’s. It seems to have been used as a commonplace word, not as a calculated insult. The problem is, I can’t seem to find anything about how people reacted to this word who were actually black, and I also know that racism was a huge problem in England’s history. I’m less interested in what Bertie meant than in what the minstrel group would have felt if they had heard Bertie address them using that word – and they have no voice, so I don’t know. http://geekgirlinlove.com/2014/01/10/friday-book-club-p-g-wodehouse-and-race/ NB: the point of this post is the word "friend of the family" obviously.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 12:04 |
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i wanted to get through today without reading the word "friend of the family" and you've ruined it before the sun is even up. i hope you're happy.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 12:39 |
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dreezy posted:i wanted to get through today without reading the word "friend of the family" and you've ruined it before the sun is even up. i hope you're happy. yeah, rip.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:04 |
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England doesn't have "A black man comandeered my wife!" porn. England 1 USA 0
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:09 |
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:England doesn't have "A black man comandeered my wife!" porn. England doesn't have any porn at all you bog dwelling fuckwit because nobody wants to watch some anteater dick pale assed mongoloid giving it to a gap toothed fishwife while they both moan like some terrible sex siren exclusive to the barren inlets of your north atlantic hell hole
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:13 |
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Wow, someone who self-describes themself as "Geek-" anything doesn't understand something awesome, what a loving shock.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:13 |
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While we're at it, I'm a little concerned that Charlotte Bronte has internalized misogyny because Jane Eyre doesn't expressly condemn the patriarchal society in which heteronormative marriage is seen as a woman's highest aspiration.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:20 |
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Shaquin posted:England doesn't have any porn at all you bog dwelling fuckwit because nobody wants to watch some anteater dick pale assed mongoloid giving it to a gap toothed fishwife while they both moan like some terrible sex siren exclusive to the barren inlets of your north atlantic hell hole Actually it's because David Cameron banned it all but w/e
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:20 |
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Why aren't there any homosexual characters in the Epic of Gilgamesh? Gilgamesh and Enkidu could have just as easily been gay lovers but instead they're "best friends"?
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:22 |
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gilgaymesh lol.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:25 |
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I'm concerned about the lack of diversity in the cast of Beowulf.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:25 |
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see also:
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:33 |
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When Zeus tricks women into having sex with him by disguising himself as a swan, he's actually raping those women. I know the author of that story is writing from the perspective of the time but that doesn't let him off the hook for perpetuating rape culture.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:34 |
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p sure there were a lot of subtle homoerotic undertones in the vedas
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:47 |
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In Arabian Nights, why doesn't Aladdin wish for gender equality?
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:50 |
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is it racist if i want a 'black man' to savage my butt hole and call me Mavis?
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 13:50 |
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Is Bertie Wooster someone we should look up to and admire? I was under the impression that he was a gibbering retard and Stephen Fry walked around in front of him to make sure he didn't kill himself from sheer stupidity.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 14:41 |
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:Is Bertie Wooster someone we should look up to and admire? I was under the impression that he was a gibbering retard and Stephen Fry walked around in front of him to make sure he didn't kill himself from sheer stupidity. Bertie's an upper class twit. He's got a good heart but is not very bright. He's not meant to be admirable per-se but he always tries to do the right thing.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 14:44 |
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Shaquin posted:England doesn't have any porn at all you bog dwelling fuckwit because nobody wants to watch some anteater dick pale assed mongoloid giving it to a gap toothed fishwife while they both moan like some terrible sex siren exclusive to the barren inlets of your north atlantic hell hole quote:the term is used in hip-hop culture in ways that I’m not well-educated about,
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Ya know I've read like fifteen of those jeeves and wooster novels and I just can't believe I managed to not pick up the one where bertie dresses up in blackface and says friend of the family because that sounds hilarious
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 15:14 |
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Bertie belonged to a club called the Drones. I think they had a pretty good idea of their privilege and their effective place in society.
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 15:22 |
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mods rename me to "the term is used in hip-hop culture in ways that I’m not well-educated about"
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 16:50 |
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why is there a link to a book club , with the url "geek girl in love" . op wtf were you looking at
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 16:58 |
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Shaquin posted:England doesn't have any porn at all you bog dwelling fuckwit because nobody wants to watch some anteater dick pale assed mongoloid giving it to a gap toothed fishwife while they both moan like some terrible sex siren exclusive to the barren inlets of your north atlantic hell hole check out this guy who got raped by Jimmy savile lol
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 22:50 |
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Shaquin posted:England doesn't have any porn at all you bog dwelling fuckwit because nobody wants to watch some anteater dick pale assed mongoloid giving it to a gap toothed fishwife while they both moan like some terrible sex siren exclusive to the barren inlets of your north atlantic hell hole This isn't true, England has "dogging" porn and its always making GBS threads up my porn viewing experience
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 22:56 |
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he'll be a good president imo
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 22:56 |
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Please don't blackface shame Bertie Wooster tia
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# ? Feb 17, 2016 23:35 |
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As a kinky genderqueer geek I have the following thoughts about The Dam Busters:
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:16 |
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Applewhite posted:In Arabian Nights, why doesn't Aladdin wish for gender equality? Aladdin wasn't in the original 1001 Nights though. It and Ali-Baba were added by the dude who first translated the stories so that it would sell better. Though the point still stands that Aladdin should have wished for gender equality I agree.
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Aladdin wasn't in the original 1001 Nights though. It and Ali-Baba were added by the dude who first translated the stories so that it would sell better. I guess that's just the sort of story we should expect from the type of person who would commit cultural appropriation.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:28 |
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In The Andromeda Strain, why didn't they use the facility to cure AIDS?
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:41 |
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yes i wonder how those imaginary people felt
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:43 |
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I know JRR Tolkien didn't mean to insult anyone when he named the stout, underground race in his books "Dwarves" but "Dwarf" is an offensive term for a Little Person. Tolkien might have been writing in a time when "Dwarf" was acceptable for people to say, but a person in his position should take every opportunity to change the toxic culture surrounding him, rather than contributing to it.
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:46 |
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In The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe why did C.S. Lewis make Aslan and allegory for Jesus when he had the perfect opportunity to make him an allegory for Mohammed? (PBUH) It's almost as if Lewis didn't care about how important representation is to minority cultures!
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:49 |
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Applewhite posted:I know JRR Tolkien didn't mean to insult anyone when he named the stout, underground race in his books "Dwarves" but "Dwarf" is an offensive term for a Little Person. Tolkien might have been writing in a time when "Dwarf" was acceptable for people to say, but a person in his position should take every opportunity to change the toxic culture surrounding him, rather than contributing to it. the kingdom of men needs to take a hard look at their unquestioning support of the dwarves following the resettlement of lonely mountain
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:54 |
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Why didn't George in Of Mice and Men take his clearly mentally challenged friend to a treatment center instead of using his retard strength to help plow fields. Pretty ableist imo
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:55 |
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Someone should have told T.H White that there are already too many stories about Knights and chivalry where male heroes rescue stereotypical damsels in distress. He could have at least put a spin on it. Why couldn't King Arthur have been a woman?
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:58 |
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Crow_Rodeo posted:Why didn't George in Of Mice and Men take his clearly mentally challenged friend to a treatment center instead of using his retard strength to help plow fields. Pretty ableist imo there are treatment centers for being retarded?
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# ? Feb 18, 2016 03:59 |
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im gaye posted:the kingdom of men needs to take a hard look at their unquestioning support of the dwarves following the resettlement of lonely mountain I know the Dwarves were almost wiped out in Sauron's campaign of genocide but when they turn around and do the same thing to the Goblins it seems a little hypocritical.
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In Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle I think the unflattering portrayal of the citizens of San Lorenzo as backwards practitioners of an absurd religion is extremely insensitive. Vonnegut should have cast Bokononism in a more positive light and showcased its rich history, as well as told the audience about all the notable Bokononists who made positive contributions to the world. Instead, all we hear about is the one Bokononist who is responsible for the extinction of all life on Earth.
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