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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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It was quiet over lunch so I decided to wander into auspol:

Vahtooch posted:

Absolutely stunning op. Now I'll just go back to sipping lattes and not wanting to work hard, and you know, crying into said latte since I just read this.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2016/march/1456750800/richard-cooke/boomer-supremacy

I'm aware that retarded alcohol legislation (plus all the other poo poo) doesn't really make our political situation any better, but it's sure doing a great job of distracting me!

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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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*tugs forelock*

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Oct 10, 2010

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Spangly A posted:

yeah but they still physically can't do it

I get the very strong impression that legislators (and apparently also the FBI) believe that Apple are just being coy/evasive, because God knows if they were building a communications system they'd ram that fucker full of secret backdoors! (a thing gchq really did, iirc)

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Spangly A posted:

Then we have the issue of whether or not they're capable of understanding all the metadata they want. Sure, large corporates can build profiles for people buying and selling things, but Big Data is still in the babysteps of understanding large-scale economic activity on a national level. If they want to start profiling protesters and terrorists, they're going to find out very rapidly the same thing sociology and psychology already knows; they don't exist as a seperate definable group.

Hail Hydra.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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What on earth is there in Dredd for MRAs to get mad about? :psyduck:


And don't say "women"

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Oct 10, 2010

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Regarde Aduck posted:

Anderson isn't dominated by her attempted rapist, then psychically beats him up and also at one point saves Dredd's life. As a woman she was not supposed to do any of this. Also leader of the block gang is a woman who doesn't tolerate men being fuckshits even if she is a criminal.

Yeah, that and the stuff in the link keg posted all faded into the background for me, which is really good I guess? Because those things shouldn't be controversial at all, and it's great that there's at least one more film that just gets on with being Correct without trying to make a big deal out of it.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Guavanaut posted:

Is the pink elephant about star wars that it is really bad?

I didn't think was controversial to say that star wars is unabashed pulp scifi, and is only regarded as classic because it did a lot of things first?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Zephro posted:

Also I'm kinda sympathetic to that Yanis Varoufakis piece from earlier when he points out that the EU stands a good chance of collapsing anyway and Brexit would make that a racing certainty, and that if that happened there's a good chance we'd get to see a full re-run of the 1930s which was literally exactly what the EU was set up to avoid.

The irony of this situation sounds delicious. Urge to Leave rising...

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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A sense of politeness compels me to claim that I don't want to say "we told you so"... but I really really do.

gently caress Benn and everyone else who pushed for this utter waste.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Helen Highwater posted:

Billions of quid spent to murder 7 random dudes.

I'm sure our boys' kill count is higher than that, it's just that only 7 of them were ISIS.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Oberleutnant posted:

In a speech at the Oxford Media Convention, the culture secretary said the fast-growing use of software that blocked advertising presented an existential threat to the newspaper and music industries.

That's the free market, baby: survival of the fittest, adapt or die. I for one welcome this new environmental pressure and the innovation it will surely force the stagnant media to make.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Guavanaut posted:

What next, bringing back the radio license for people that stream internet audio?

Expropriation of EM radiation of any kind is made a criminal offence.

In other news, the government is set to sell the rights to all the UK's solar energy for the princely sum of £7million. The proceeds will be used to fit the benches in Whitehall with electric bum warmers.

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Oct 10, 2010

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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

South Essex is the worst place on Earth for that kind of thing. My mum phoned me up in tears once because the council were considering allowing new builds down the road from my house.

I... what? :psyduck:

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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JFairfax posted:

if you live within spitting distance of a motorway junction you aint in the goddamn countryside you loving morons

And even if they were, a field is just a lovely lawn that makes somebody money, maybe. They don't even look nice, it's not like they're losing deciduous woodland or anything.

Which is another thing, what do you want to bet these are exactly the same people paving over their front gardens to make room for another lexus, collectively eroding their town's flood resistance?

XMNN posted:

what are your feelings on pedalos?

NO gently caress YOU DAD's mum mishears, and gets a case of the vapours at the thought of a bunch of pedalos moving in down the street.

Guavanaut posted:

Well there is another reason, it's because deaths that happen far away are less psychologically troubling and easier to put out of mind than ones closer to home.

I didn't say it was a good reason.

It is a strong reason though. It's the same thing that makes people roll their eyes and tell you to stop being melodramatic when you call IDS a murderer, or point out that death is the most likely outcome of any "send 'em back" policy.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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The way to get let off "compulsory" sports is to be so bad that nobody ever wants to pass you anything (because you'll deliberately give it to the other team or wing it over a fence)

JFairfax posted:

if you tackle properly in rugby your head shouldn't get hit, I agree that being pushed out on a pitch to play for the school team without any practice is bonkers. My secondary school was in the countryside (think hot fuzz) so it was a state one but had plenty of rugby pitches and you started from year 7.

We got a taster session at primary school that consisted of a dude showing up with some tackle dummies and saying "run into this thing as hard as you can" with minimal explanation.

I did it, staggered halfway across the field, passed out and threw up. I heartily recommend all ten year olds get concussion, it was great (not)

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Oct 10, 2010

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LemonDrizzle posted:

I went to some pretty rugby-mad schools in Wales 15-20 years ago, and I can't recall it ever being compulsory. Opting out as a boy would certainly have earned you a lot of rather cruel mocking and jokes about your sexuality/masculinity, however.

Don't want to wrestle sweaty muddy prebuscent boys on the cold ground? Must be gay!

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Jedit posted:

On the other hand, we should not ban rugby from schools. It's mainly public schools that play it, and anything that potentially shortens the lives of Tories can't be bad.

Have you considered that massive brain damage is the reason they're Tories? Or at least the reason they're selfish murderous bastards

Doesn't kill them quick enough in any case.

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Oct 10, 2010

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TinTower posted:

Speaking of which, didn't every school have an urban legend that some kid at the next school over had to go to hospital after being given the Walls of Jericho?

I heard that at my school but didn't watch wrestling so had no idea what anyone was on about. :shobon:

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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OwlFancier posted:

In fairness ... hitler was ... n't ... bad

Get 'im lads!

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Oct 10, 2010

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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

The British have always had a problem with excess deference

Could put a full stop there tbh

There's politeness and there's holding a door for someone who's over twenty feet away and walking slowly. It's a door ffs it's not gonna kill anyone.

Phoon posted:

I just had this exact conversation with an old lady on the train

How did it go?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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feedmegin posted:

Americans also masturbate to the Royal Family. Albeit in about the same way they do the Kardassians.

American plutocrats have such influence and attract such obsession that I'd argue they're indistinguishable from old royalty/nobility in a practical sense. See especially the kennedys in the mid 20th century.

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Oct 10, 2010

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Tesseraction posted:

Typically my worst experience with sand is finding cat poo poo in the sandpit.

I guess my skin being melted off my screaming body is a step up, negative-wise.

Boiling cat litter being poured off the parapet :stonkhat:

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Total Meatlove posted:

The story of a 14 year old whose school didn't inform her parents she has bulimia - and was being treated for it - because she was Gillick competent is top of the Mail (and over all of the ITV shows).


I imagine Cameron will come out with some horrifyingly OTT response in about 4 hours

I assume the papers are coming down on the side of Gillick, ie "won't somebody please think of the parents?"

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Sounds like a problem with an individual doctor or clinic overestimating the kid's level of competence, and thus primarily a training issue, but it won't surprise me if someone suggests a legislative solution because that seems to be the answer to everything lately.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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#proudOfDresden

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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What are your thoughts on villains who are shameless (non-British) racist stereotypes but have British accents anyway, eg Ming the Merciless?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Guavanaut posted:

I agree. Sex work is a form of commercial sexual exploitation as long as [x] work is a form of commercial [x] exploitation.

Let's work to remove the exploitation bit.

Work to remove exploitation is a form of commercial removal of exploitation exploitation.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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DesperateDan posted:

Ugh, you can't be sirius with that, can you?

Altair you a new one if you denigrate the fine art of punsmanship again.

cue dogpile of people telling me it's not pronounced like that

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Spangly A posted:

I agree with Rachel Moran, abolish free market economics, introduce mincome on top of a socialist government structure, sex work only for the economically free

Some justifications for mincome hold that the point of it is you're being paid to reduce stress in the world, and increase happiness.

Therefore anything you do to increase net happiness which is enabled by this stipend is paid work.

Therefore if mincome existed, I would automatically become a sex worker :heysexy:

Guavanaut posted:

She should try a sports and tackle store instead of being passive aggressive on Twitter.

Speaking of guns, how dumb would it be to start a discussion in here on the subject "I want to see a review of gun law because I'd quite like to try the olympic sport of pistol shooting without having to leave the country to do so"?

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Oct 10, 2010

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V. Illych L. posted:

the worst part of discussing prostitution legislation is that everyone gets completely hysterical about discussing it and refuses to accept just how difficult it is to get good information on these things, leading to statements based on nothing but hot air which are accepted as gospel because they match people's personal moral intuitions

of course, discussing those moral intuitions is almost entirely taboo, because that's "moralism" whatever the hell that means

It's for these reasons I can't really see us making any real progress on the legislation of sex work until social attitudes advance.

Wikipedia on UK public opinion of sex work posted:

A CATI survey conducted in January 2008 revealed the following answers:

Paying for sex exploits women and should be a criminal offence: 44% of the total respondents agree (65% of those aged 18–24 agree; 48% of all women agree, 39% of men agree)

Paying for sex exploits women but should not be a criminal offence: 21% of the total respondents agree

Paying for sex does not exploit women and should not be a criminal offence: 17% of the total respondents agree

Paying for sex does not exploit women but should be a criminal offence: 8% of the total respondents agree [63]

A Ipsos-Mori poll conducted in July and August 2008 showed that 61% of women and 42% of men thought that paying for sex was "unacceptable". 65% of women and 40% of men said selling sex was "unacceptable". Young people were the most opposed to prostitution: 64% of the youth said that paying for sex was "unacceptable" and 69% believed that selling sex was "unacceptable"; older people had more relaxed attitudes about prostitution (men over 55 were the most accepting of buying sex). 60% of all the people who were questioned would feel ashamed if they found out a family member was working as a prostitute. 43% thought it should be illegal to pay for sex, however 58% would support making it illegal to pay for sex if "it will help reduce the numbers of women and children being trafficked into the UK for sexual exploitation".

Compare to attitudes on homosexuality, which only relatively recently dropped below 50% opposition (at various times across the last 10-20 years for different groups depending on their religiousness), and how public approval ratings line up with various legislative changes by date.

Legislative baby steps might be able to help shift opinion, but I don't think we'll see anything more substantial than that until fewer than half of people react to the notion of sex work (buying or selling) with "ew, gross"

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Oct 10, 2010

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Guavanaut posted:

Pugs are the Habsburgs of the dog world. And it's all happened in the last 200 years.



In 1802 they still looked about functional for an actual animal.

I saw a guy walking a pair if pugs past my house today.

I say saw, but I heard them coming from halfway down the street; poor things were wheezing like the illegitimate lovechild of an asthmatic and a bandsaw :(

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Let me tell you about relativity :pseudo:

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Oct 10, 2010

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Spangly A posted:

people in the UK are really, really uncomfortable about organ donation. My mother just signed up and told us all as per the advice, joining the rest of us as donors. She's still absolutely adamant that we personally must "make sure she's dead" first, because "you just don't know"

I'm pretty sure Doctors know if you're dead but IANAD. Think of it like this: the Mail are finally accepting bodily autonomy, and now they're blaming someone else for imaginary nonsense that might happen because of it.

If she's not dead beforehand, she sure will be after having her liver removed! :downsrim:

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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The advertising for these insurance comparison sites gets more extreme every year.

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Oct 10, 2010

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Ddraig posted:

When I'm dead I'm dead, but I may live on as someone's pancreas. Hopefully an attractive lady.

For sure, it's the only way you'll ever get inside one.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Through the keyhole at Jess Phillips' house, a body pillow with a picture of Voldemort on it

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Oct 10, 2010

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Paul.Power posted:

*searches for the releveant quotation*

Haha wow, apparently “Those who seek power are not worthy of that power” goes all the way back to Plato.

I should really read up on Greek philosophy, slamming people with two or three thousand year old quotes sounds like a fun time

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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OwlFancier posted:

Guvnr

Up to you whether it's political tumblr or grindr.

That one's actually a black cab competitor to Uber.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

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Oberleutnant posted:

well if you think about it the people who run the banks are professionals, so if they want to leverage 90% of their customers' deposits for investment in self-regulated financial industry at no risk to themselves they probably know what's best and should be left to it. Government = inefficiency.

Nothing has annoyed me more in my entire life than conflation of "professional" with "expert" (and the partner pair, "amateur" and "novice").

Any fool can charge a fee.

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Oct 10, 2010

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Guavanaut posted:

I'm hoping that it's mostly about saying 'human being' and 'get back in the kitchen' on twitter, but if we're really going to call for people to leave any kind of public related office just for posing with a firearm we should at least apply it consistently.



(And her husband probably calls people worse than human being every morning so he can join her.)

Huh, I didn't know the Queen was a lefty.

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