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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

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Elwood Cuse posted:

Would like to see a fancystats comparison to now and when they went 15-0 in March 2013, because we all saw what good that ended up doing them.

I'm not saying you're doing this but people get way too panicky about their team peaking too early before the playoffs. That doesn't matter. If anything it's a good omen that you're playing that well, unless you're getting unsustainably lucky.

When the Pens won the Cup in 09 they went something like 19-4 down the stretch before the playoffs started. They were also a possession beast. They are that now as well and I legitimately believe they have a chance to win the cup now. If they keep possessing the puck like they are and manage to cobble together a functioning powerplay then they can beat anyone.

e: In related news any Wings loss moving forward (even an OTL) will officially clinch the Pens a playoff spot. If the Rangers/Panthers get at least a point and the Wings lose a game in regulation that would clinch for those teams as well.

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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

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It really is unbelievable how poor luck the Pens have when it comes to injuries.

Guess we'll see how Murray handles the pressure.

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Officially clinched :toot:. Wasn't sure if it would happen after how dreadful they were under MJ and with those 4 straight losses to start Sullivan's tenure. What a turnaround.

Ginette Reno
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The Pens now have the second best goal differential in the NHL as well at +37. Yowsa.

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ElwoodCuse posted:

With the blowout today Patrick Kane hit the century mark. Only he, Crosby and Malkin have done so in the last 5 seasons.

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Considering Sid has been back to his career 1.3 ppg under Sullivan there's a decent chance the two aborted seasons of MJ cost Sid two more 100 point seasons

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myron cope posted:

I had tickets to last night's Pens game from work and they have a suite and it was pretty baller. It's weird to be at a hockey game and not have to deal with a big crowd of people.

I saw a Sabres-Pens game like this in Buffalo back in 05-6 because my Dad's friend used to work for the Sabres and he hooked me up. It was pretty rad. I think we even had a waiter.

Honestly though for any kind of meaningful hockey game I'd rather be in the crowd.

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Mike_V posted:

I don't think he'd win with the season Karlsson's having anyways, but does Keith's suspension remove him from Norris conversation?

Why the hell would he even be in it? 18th in d scoring.

The Norris should be between Burns, Karlsson, and Letang, with probably one of the first two getting it.

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

If Doughty deserves the Norris you could definitely argue for Letang, but the fact is Karlsson should win it and it's not even close.

Likewise for Kane vs Crosby & Benn. The latter two have been beasts but it should still go to Kane.

I don't buy the whole peaking too early thing because the Pens went like 19-4-7 down the stretch the year they last won the Cup so hopefully they stay this hot just like they did that year. The underlying stats suggest they're not getting lucky as they routinely dominate possession. Actually I think tonight was one of the first times they got out shot in a while, and it was only narrowly.

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INSPECTAH DECK posted:

Kane's going to win the Hart near unanimously so no issue there.

The worst award winner since Ty Cobb.

The Isles/Rangers winning means the Flyers cannot finish in second now, so the Pens are going to play one of the Rangers or Isles. The Rangers and Isles play each other coming up and that game will pretty much decide things.

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Aye Doc posted:

he's concussed and matt murray is starting, the east is hosed

unless the Pens rush the Mafster back and then we get concussed playoff Maf. He's been fine the past two playoffs anyways so I'm not too worried about that.

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If the Pens win tomorrow they'll have nothing to play for in their game against the Flyers and will probably sit Letang and Crosby if they're smart so there's that, FAS.

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Thufir posted:

Make it a front office staff bowling tournament or something.

Put all the loser GMs in a barn and let them duke it out for the top three picks

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Nov 18, 2006

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I guess the Pens are anticipating possible thuggery from the Caps tonight because they recalled Sestito

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Mind_Taker posted:

It has been a while since Tom Wilson has done something bad. He's due.

Also Backstrom is back and the Capitals are fully healthy.

Please don't kill anybody. I am enjoying this Pens team.

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Poonerman posted:

washington picking a great time to sputter

I thought they played a pretty good game honestly. Could have won. It would be a pretty awesome series I think.

I feel like the Islanders will be a bitch of a series if it comes to that. They play so hard and have the speed to match the Pens decently well. Then again door number two is the King and I'm not too comfortable with that either. Guess we'll see what happens.

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Beau Bennett is indeed hurt again by the way. Supposedly dealing with the same injury he was previously dealing with.

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Aphrodite posted:

Getting the tough match-up in round 2 is strategically preferable over getting it in the ECF.

I'd rather have Washington have two chances to lose to inferior teams before having to play the Pens rather than having the Pens have to take care of them in round 2. I'm sure Caps fans feel the same way about the Pens.

The only strategic advantage I can see to facing them that early is maybe your team is healthier in round 2 than round 3. But that's kinda impossible to predict.

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Aphrodite posted:

You always take the bad news first.

The Hockey Gods have already chosen their Champions. If they are the ordained, it does not matter when they face their most difficult challenge.

There is something to be said for winning in style. The 09 Pens won in just about the most perfect way possible. Beat their bitter rival the Flyers, then beat Ovechkin and the Caps, then the Canes which weren't an enemy really, and got to top it off with some revenge against the Wings. The only more satisfying way they could have won is if you replaced the Canes with some other rival like I dunno the Rangers or Bruins.

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Pornographic Memory posted:

i'd really like to never think about mike johnston again because he wasn't even entertainingly bad, he was just drab and boring and made watching hockey a tedious grind where nobody on the penguins except marc andre fleury or evgeni malkin did anything worth being excited about

If he serves the Therrien role where his firing causes the team to let loose and become a corsi beast and win the cup I'm perfectly okay with that and will sing his praises. So far as good on the first part of that.

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bewbies posted:

I don't mean to be pedantic but by the standards of 1990s star athletes modano was somewhere between mother teresa and jackie robinson on the scale of human worth.

Mario lemieux SMOKED for gods sake

The early 90's Pens owned. They smoked, drank, and won cups. Like the NHL equivalent of a dominant beer league team. I remember Lemieux once saying something like his pre season training regiment was cutting out french fries :v:

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Krime posted:

Nah... it was just skipping the ketchup on his french fries.

Even better.


Re: the Jackets. I think people figured Bob wouldn't be this bad

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Levitate posted:

Flyers would be much more entertaining in the playoffs, Detroit is a boring as poo poo team that "succeeds" by employing as much interference as possible

Rangers probably gonna get rolled by Pittsburgh as I'm not really holding my breath that the Islanders will pass them again but whatever, they'd have to play them or Washington in the second round anyways if they managed to get out of the first so hell, you gotta beat the good teams if you want to go anywhere (they won't go anywhere)

I'd assume the Isles will beat the Sabres today and Philly should beat the Pens since they're resting Crosby/Letang. Should that happen the game tomorrow won't mean anything for either team, and who knows what rosters they put out then and what the result is.

Bring on whoever. Pens should beat either team, it'd be pretty disappointing to not.

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Pornographic Memory posted:

the penguins basically handed the game to the flyers on a plate and they still had to kill murray smdh

Eh, they took him out for precautionary reasons. He may be fine, and if he's not, Fleury is pretty close. Zatkoff won't start a game in the playoffs.

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Eric the Mauve posted:

Assuming MAF is still out, which sounds like it will be the case, who is even going to be backing up Zatkoff? Whoever it is I can't imagine he's worse than Zatkoff so he might as well start.

I have no earthly clue why Murray even played in a game that Crosby and Letang did not. Especially since frankly losing to the Flyers was not a bad thing since it helped eliminate the one team that owns the Penguins' souls from the playoffs entirely (and get their coach fired and, in all likelihood, replaced with a worse coach). It was dumb and they got burned.

Calm the gently caress down Murray or Maf will be starting

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communist kangaroo posted:

citizen tayne doing work

It's about time someone stepped up and filled the Toxic Sunset role for PAS

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Levitate posted:

Rangers have 101 points and 43 ROW
Islanders have 100 points and 40 ROW

:shrug:

The Isles need 102 points to pass the Rangers. So they need a win tomorrow, in any fashion. A loss of any kind means Rangers/Pens

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Levitate posted:

Right, I've just seen multiple people in this thread and even the Rangers beat writer say if the Isles get a point they'll pass the Rangers so I'm either trying to be right goddammit or I'm confused and worried I'm missing something

You're not missing anything. You've got it exactly right. First tie breaker is ROW, after that it's head to head. Rangers have the ROW and Isles can't possibly match that, so they have to get two points to pass the Rangers.

e: I feel like Florida isn't getting enough respect. They've got good goaltending, their possession game has improved since the deadline, and they're fairly healthy. I'm not sure facing them instead of the Penguins is some kind of huge break for the Isles or Rangers.

Although being able to face the Lightning or Wings in the second round would be a boon.

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There's no reason not to call up Jarry since there's no max roster size for playoff rosters. Still expect Murray or Fleury to start game one. Won't officially panic until it's confirmed otherwise.


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GMJR on Penguins' Jarry call-up: "At this point, it is for depth in practice."

That doesn't seem too concerning. But then there's this:


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Just asked GMJR if Zatkoff and Jarry will be the goalies for Game 1. His response: "Too early to tell."

Which is very concerning. Ah well, we'll see what happens

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Levitate posted:

I think if both the Pens top goalies really are injured and won't be starting the series then it's a toss up.


Honestly I'd bet one of Murray or Fleury to be ready, this just feels more like a "well they're injured might as well give them as much rest as possible for now" but if they both have concussions you never know, poo poo can end up taking a long time to get right and a goalie with PCS probably isn't going to be very good.


The Rangers all seem pretty likable to be honest and haven't opened their mouths to say any real dumb poo poo lately.

Yeah I do still expect one or both of them to be ready. Fleury has been resting for a while, and Sullivan originally said they took Murray out of that game for precautionary reasons which makes it sound like Murray was coming out of that game after that hit whether he thought he could continue or not. They also have until Wednesday or Thursday to rest up some more.

I don't even want to think about Zatkoff starting a playoff game, but if it comes to that, oh well. I think the Pens could still win a series with him if they absolutely had to, but it'd be touch and go. He's not as big a disaster as some Pens fans think, but he is obviously far worse than Murray/Maf. He had a 917 this year though so it's not like he's a complete and utter sieve.


e: Also :lol: at the Islanders lineup for the game tonight. I get resting your guys but it's like they took every NHLer of quality out they could think of. I guess we know what team they don't want to play.

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I hope the Pens don't get Hanked for the third time. Tired of the Hank. Yank the Hank.

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