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pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
PANAMA PAPER DEATH COUNT :ok::

Iceland Prime Minister Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-05/iceland-pm-resigns-following-panama-papers-leak/7302330




Volkerball posted:

ICIJ is back up. Here's a list of all the major names involved. It's all interactive. Click the name to see what they are implicated in.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/the_power_players/


So, the Panama Papers hack of Mossack Fonseca probably deserve their own thread. This is young, but it's apparently the biggest hack of all time.

Here are the salient points from The Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-panama-papers?CMP=share_btn_tw

quote:

Mossack Fonseca is a Panama-based law firm whose services include incorporating companies in offshore jurisdictions such as the British Virgin Islands. It administers offshore firms for a yearly fee. Other services include wealth management.

The leak is one of the biggest ever – larger than the US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks in 2010, and the secret intelligence documents given to journalists by Edward Snowden in 2013. There are 11.5m documents and 2.6 terabytes of information drawn from Mossack Fonseca’s internal database.

In a speech last year in Singapore, David Cameron said “the corrupt, criminals and money launderers” take advantage of anonymous company structures.https://twitter.com/francesmao/status/716735803536187392 The government is trying to do something about this. It wants to set up a central register that will reveal the beneficial owners of offshore companies.

Yeah David Cameron, about that?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/716717197209501698


This already is blowing up in Iceland with calls for the PM, who apparently has some shady offshore accounts here, to retire in shame.

https://twitter.com/DrAwab/status/716731923612176384


This is a huge database and people are going to be looking for more and more politicians who are hiding their money in Panama to avoid taxes as well as just famous people etc etc. Nawaz Shariff and Al-Assad have accounts there so far, thought those are a little less surprising.

Use this thread to discuss revelations as they come about.

Adding to the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6XnH_OnpO0

pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 5, 2016

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Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

I think this actually might cause Brazil to literally explode.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Couldn't Iceland bring back outlawry?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Here's a bunch of the names involved, centered around Eastern Europe.

https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/persons/

Putin, Poroshenko, and uh Lionel Messi.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

pathetic little tramp posted:

So, the Panama Papers hack of Mossack Fonseca probably deserve their own thread. This is young, but it's apparently the biggest hack of all time.

Here are the salient points from The Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-panama-papers?CMP=share_btn_tw


Yeah David Cameron, about that?

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/716717197209501698


This already is blowing up in Iceland with calls for the PM, who apparently has some shady offshore accounts here, to retire in shame.

https://twitter.com/DrAwab/status/716731923612176384


This is a huge database and people are going to be looking for more and more politicians who are hiding their money in Panama to avoid taxes as well as just famous people etc etc. Nawaz Shariff and Al-Assad have accounts there so far, thought those are a little less surprising.

Use this thread to discuss revelations as they come about.

Oh please let this have legs.

:kheldragar:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Please topple my lovely government thank you.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Volkerball posted:

Here's a bunch of the names involved, centered around Eastern Europe.

https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/persons/

Putin, Poroshenko, and uh Lionel Messi.

Yeah Poroshenko apparently was setting up his holding company the day his country got invaded. Jesus Ukraine is a mess.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Looks like this is the major website documenting everyone involved. Seen a lot of screenshots from it. It's down at the moment though.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/

It's starting to look like you're more likely to have the leader of your country implicated than not. Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, China, Iceland, and on and on and on.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I really hope the Clintons are involved in this.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

VideoTapir posted:

I really hope the Clintons are involved in this.

It would be so delicious. I doubt it, though, they don't seem dumb enough to do something like this. On the other hand...

Kaislioc
Feb 14, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Please topple my lovely government thank you.

This. I already see something about Cameron but I'm not sure "implicated through father" really means anything.

Fake edit: If it somehow magically does manage to topple the government I will die laughing. Government that supports recording the every communication and private data of every person gets massive real world lesson on the downsides of having your every communication and private data recorded. :v:

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Volkerball posted:

Looks like this is the major website documenting everyone involved. Seen a lot of screenshots from it. It's down at the moment though.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/

It's starting to look like you're more likely to have the leader of your country implicated than not. Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, China, Iceland, and on and on and on.

Funded by USAID? Welp, guess we aren't going to be hearing anything about American plutocrats.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
From the Wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

Map of countries with leaders implicated in the leak:

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."
Here's a video of Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson - the Prime Minister of Iceland - being confronted about the leak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oapzwJUmujQ

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/iceland-pm-calls-snap-election-offshore-revelations

This was supposed to be the guy who was going to put an end to this sort of thing in the country.
That quivering lip says it all..

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


I hope that heads will be rolling. Yes, maybe also literally. :munch:

shizen
Dec 29, 2006

Nevermind

Are the documents online anywhere

I Am Crake
Mar 31, 2010

There is so much beautiful in the world if you look around. You are only looking at the dirt under your feet, Jimmy. It's not good for you.
How come there seem to be no Americans implicated in this whole mess? I haven't seen any names from over there yet. Seems weird.

Also come on CNN, you used to be the news:

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

shizen posted:

Nevermind

Are the documents online anywhere

There's 11 million files.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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shizen posted:

Nevermind

Are the documents online anywhere

Only shared with preselected journalists.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6XnH_OnpO0

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Is it capitalism yet?

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."
tbf, it's hard to properly host ~2.6TB of data

shizen
Dec 29, 2006

I Am Crake posted:

How come there seem to be no Americans implicated in this whole mess? I haven't seen any names from over there yet. Seems weird.

Also come on CNN, you used to be the news:



I think FATCA would cause them to open their books or that is what I've been reading.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

I hope that heads will be rolling. Yes, maybe also literally. :munch:

At the least it looks like Iceland is going to have a quick replacement.

This is way bigger than the Snowden leaks, I don't think the corporate media and the elites will be able to gloss it over and play it down the same way.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






i'm so excited!

New Division
Jun 23, 2004

I beg to present to you as a Christmas gift, Mr. Lombardi, the city of Detroit.
Looks like Argentina's shiny new president Macri is implicated. Wonder if this puts him in any serious danger.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Rooney McNibnug posted:

tbf, it's hard to properly host ~2.6TB of data

wouldn't be that hard to break it up into a bunch of torrents.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Brannock posted:

At the least it looks like Iceland is going to have a quick replacement.

This is way bigger than the Snowden leaks, I don't think the corporate media and the elites will be able to gloss it over and play it down the same way.

Well actually, it's more about our ability to play it down. I mean, nobody with half a brain thinks there is anything new about any of this. It's just becoming increasingly difficult to ignore, like we usually do.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012



Yo seriously, stuff like this makes me sick.

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."
lol

https://twitter.com/koenrh/status/716741420678258688

VideoTapir posted:

wouldn't be that hard to break it up into a bunch of torrents.

Yeah, that would be ideal.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

shizen
Dec 29, 2006

Friendly Humour posted:

Only shared with preselected journalists.

So we can only get access to what they want to share :colbert:

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."
Bit of an interesting take on why we might not be seeing so many U.S. companies involved here (albeit there are surely other factors involved here):

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/

quote:

What do you expect? The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

Ford Foundation
Carnegie Endowment
Rockefeller Family Fund
W K Kellogg Foundation
Open Society Foundation (Soros)

among many others. Do not expect a genuine expose of western capitalism. The dirty secrets of western corporations will remain unpublished.

Seems like kind of a curmudgeony response to a giant collaborative effort by so many journalists, but its worth knowing anyways, imo.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
ICIJ is back up. Here's a list of all the major names involved. It's all interactive. Click the name to see what they are implicated in.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/the_power_players/

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

shizen posted:

So we can only get access to what they want to share :colbert:

As opposed to it being thrown on a server that promptly gets thrown down a well

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I dont think the ICIJ are interested in dumping the files outright, sounds like Süddeutsche Zeitung recieved the documents from an internal source over a year ago and shared them with ICIJ affiliates to go through them for information "in the public interest"

A press release that's been republished on a couple of sites says they will release the full list of companies and people linked to them in May so it's probably going to be a slow drip of news

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


shizen posted:

So we can only get access to what they want to share :colbert:

I was present at a panel discussion with the Süddeutsche investigative journalists, who were participating in the previous publishing of leaked information. Dissemination and verification are absolutely necessary.

Süddeutsche is the best German newspaper and my subscription to it is worth every single cent.

I Am Crake
Mar 31, 2010

There is so much beautiful in the world if you look around. You are only looking at the dirt under your feet, Jimmy. It's not good for you.

Rooney McNibnug posted:

Bit of an interesting take on why we might not be seeing so many U.S. companies involved here (albeit there are surely other factors involved here):

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/corporate-media-gatekeepers-protect-western-1-from-panama-leak/


Seems like kind of a curmudgeony response to a giant collaborative effort by so many journalists, but its worth knowing anyways, imo.

Seems a little hard to believe that hundreds of journalists from several countries sitting on juicy incriminating information will conspire to self-censor to protect others.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

kustomkarkommando posted:

I dont think the ICIJ are interested in dumping the files outright, sounds like Süddeutsche Zeitung recieved the documents from an internal source over a year ago and shared them with ICIJ affiliates to go through them for information "in the public interest"

A press release that's been republished on a couple of sites says they will release the full list of companies and people linked to them in May so it's probably going to be a slow drip of news

Goddammit they'd better get on this poo poo before the primaries are over.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

this poo poo makes me want to be dead. all these people especially the Russian pedophile should be loving killed in the street.

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