Temin_Dump posted:

So, a few people have already chimed in with their guess to the final video count (And I'm happy to let them change their answers since I haven't posted this yet), but yeah, we're playing The Price is Right Rules here; the closest to the actual number without going over.

Anyone is free to guess both the final death tally, the final video count, and the death count for each "section" of the LP. I'll update one of the OP posts with this information.

What I'm looking for now is the death count for all of the 1994 wads. The deadline for this will be Friday, August 12 by 11:59 P.M. PST (Or you know, before I go to sleep that night).
This contest will be a thing that runs throughout the life of the thread. People will gain points for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place.

The final death count, and final video count deadlines will be Saturday, December 31st, by 11:59 P.M. PST Just throw a number out there. I don't even know what the final count could possibly be, and we're not even close to the end. I will allow you to change each of these guesses once, but just once.

So, that's 3 contests (That I have planned anyway) for the thread. I plan to have some form of prize, but that is far off and TBD. The final numbers are out of everyone's control, so this ought to be interesting.

Fish Noise posted:

This drat image has been stuck in my mind all day and I have taken measures to get it out.

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.

Y-Hat posted:

Unperson_47 posted:

This thread has made me go back and check out DoomRL again. I wish that was updated more frequently. But on the subject of abusing strafing control oversights:

Morholt posted:

i made you a fanart

Redysseus posted:

I'm not sorry. Thanks to Thyrork for the spotlight banner idea.



As per usual, here's the originals. http://imgur.com/gallery/DaQKk

Fish Noise posted:

I'm afraid I must point out a critical flaw in an otherwise excellent concept.

_{hey that's not Doomguy}

Jobbo_Fett posted:

That sour lemon smell... I knew what it was about instantly...

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Fish Noise posted:

I used to think that The Doom Comic was the most bizarre and inane of Doom tie-in media, but no, all this time, we've had Flynn Taggart's train of thought rapidly oscillating between oo-rah and inexplicable lemon rage.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

This explains everything...

Fish Noise posted:

It is very unfortunate that the co-op stream recording was lost. Therefore, I have attempted to re-create one of the highlights of that stream for anyone who missed it or wants to experience it again.


_{Certain embellishments may or may not have been added to the events depicted}

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Also, re:Doomguy being a contractor, I think you guys were a little off the mark...



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Fish Noise posted:

PSWII60 posted:

Merry Christmas Doom thread.

Morholt posted:

Detail from A Safer Moat by the Adolf Hitler School of Design

Lady Naga posted:

My LP doesn't get a sick OP shoutout? Boo, sir!

Klaus88 posted:

I'm disappointed that you didn't use the proper tag for a doom franchise play through.

That looks like a pretty good 20 years to me, when your low point is either hexen, doom 3, or maybe rage.

Tiggum posted:

Wolfenstein 3D is great though. It gets pretty samey as you go through it (especially if you include SoD) but it's a fun and challenging game.

Gridlocked posted:

No Brutal DOOM on the list

Klaus88 posted:

Hopefully all us nerds can co-exist in peace without a great big slap fight over what constitutes "doom" RIGHT GUYS/GALS?

FredMSloniker posted:

Also, if we're talking about what constitutes a 'Doom game', does DoomRL count?

Tiggum posted:

Are you going to show off Catacomb 3-D at all?

anilEhilated posted:

gently caress yeah, Doom 2 is still the best platformer of all time. This is one huge nostalgia trip for me, I think I actually played every single of these games growing up. Particularly looking forward to see someone being actually competent at Strife.
e: Welp, apart from Rage. Not sure if I missed out on anything there.
e2: Speaking of mod suggestions, it's a bit early for that but if you don't do Alien Vendetta, there shall be cries and gnashing of teeth.

Spudd posted:

All doom's are good dooms

I've been thinking of trying to make a Doom 3 lp of my own because I actually loved it completely, but you can do it for me

RickVoid posted:

Wolf3D was my first FPS when I found it on my Dads computer way back in ~'94 at the tender age of 8. He only had the Shareware episode though, so I didn't get to kill Hitler until a year later when I discovered that one of my friends not only had a copy too, but his Dad had shelled out the money for all the episodes; and thus did I become a software pirate at 9.

I don't remember exactly when we got Doom, but I know it was after the Doom 2 release (which I really wanted, back then you could buy a double-wide box that had the full versions of Doom I and II, but Mom really didn't like that we even had the Shareware version, so that was that). Our shareware copy came as a surprise in the bottom of the box for a Joystick my dad and I bought to enhance our Flight-Sim sessions (Knights of the Sky and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe), which we had previously been playing using keyboard controls (oh early 90's gaming, there are many things about you I do not miss). Doom was an upgrade over Wolf3D in every way, and I played the hell out of it. This was pre-internet for me (when didn't get internet access until I was in Junior High), so everything I found in the game, every level I beat, secret I found, was accomplished through trial and error.

One of my favorite gaming memories was testing out a theory that my Dad and I had, that there was more to the last level to be found after you enter the portal, since the room it drops you in is full of guys who kill you. We knew that the room would disable God Mode, but putting the code in would restore you to full health. So while my dad did his best to shoot all of the demons, I was on code duty, putting in IDDQD over and over again until all the enemies were dead... At which point we discovered that the room has a damage floor and there was nothing else to do except let yourself die. Oh well.

PSWII60 posted:

I thought there were dudes in white behind that locked door on floor 10? What am I remembering?

anilEhilated posted:

Ooh, one thing I forgot to mention: really glad you subscribe to the Only True Doom Philosophy Of Ultra Violence Being The Canon Difficulty.

Tiggum posted:

So what was supposed to be at the end of that maze?

Fish Noise posted:

This drat image has been stuck in my mind all day and I have taken measures to get it out.

AnxiousSloth posted:

I know it isn't for quite a while but Strife is an amazing game which I still think stands up today in story even if it doesn't mechanically. I can't wait to see you tackle it.

Thyrork posted:

Also good luck Temin_Dump, this's gonna be good.

Spudd posted:

If you wanted to do 1 a day I'd be cool with it

anilEhilated posted:

IIRC there was also a GBA port of Doom and rather unsurprisingly it was utter dogshit.

e: Also, Giftmacher translates literally to "maker of poisons". Not as good a nomen omen as the final boss of the game, but still funny.

Sharp_angus posted:

Didn't see this mentioned, but way back, the shareware version of Wolf3D (at least the one I had), was an older engine than the one that made retail release. The most notable difference I found was that push-walls didn't slide, while they and all other doors kinda snapped to their open state.

Thefluffy posted:

after watching all that sped up wolf 3-D gameplay I am starting to see how people get motionsick from playing it

nielsm posted:

Great post about audio stuff

Sharp_angus posted:

I can't find anything either. Sorry

I remember it was a very limited demo. Maybe just the first episode. I stunk at the game way back, and I got stuck on floor six, so I'm not sure if Hans was even in it at floor 9. I was playing on a 286 and the splash screen looked different, more pixelated. EGA maybe...

e: A clue I just found at https://tcrf.net/Wolfenstein_3D_(DOS) says that "Salute" was cut music used for the splash theme in the prototype version of Wolf (whatever that means). THAT is the theme I remember hearing when the game started. I have no idea how on earth I had that version of the game!

Mooseontheloose posted:

No Team Fortress? Wasn't it originally a Quake mod, which I guess isn't technically Doom.

Aerdan posted:

Incidentally, the Wolfenstein wiki says that the machine gun seems to be modeled after an MP40 in the original DOS build, an STG-44 in the mission packs, and a mix between an MP40 and an M1A2 in the Mac Family port. (Apologies if someone else has mentioned this in the thread already, only just binged the videos.)

nielsm posted:

If you're actually going to do something on QWTF you're definitely going to need 8-16 players to fill a server, it being multiplayer-only and such!

Jobbo_Fett posted:

I can't stop hearing "MEIN FROMAGE!" from the milkmen.

Mr.Flibble posted:

If you can please show off the Custom Playstation Edition of Doom/doom2 or at least a wad that shows off the changes that they made for it?
Here's a video review of it if your unfamiliar whit it.
https://youtu.be/-fEuUix_o-s

Gloomy Rube posted:

This is basically right, but it also comes with new music, and the level design takes a huge step up from regular Wolfenstein 3d from what I recall. Most of the levels are more compact, so it's harder to get lost, there's a lot of new tiles and decorations to help alleviate the monotony, and it overall feels like a more polished game.

They changed the chaingun pickup sound (IIRC) though which is laaaame.

Tiggum posted:

Are you going to do any more of Keen or was that a one-off thing?

Edminster posted:

They weren't comic books, they were Kant books. Billy Blaze is a supergenius who presumably reads long-dead philosophers.

Rushputin posted:

I'm sad I didn't join this on the ground floor because I'm a German who played Wolf3D as a child (technically super-illegal) and would have enjoyed making fun of some of the stuff the enemies say (has anyone even commented on the iconic "mein Leben"?).

Still, this is the first anthology LP I've watched where I didn't have some problem with the style or quality of commentating, so good job on that. I really like the concept and hope there will be more series and genre overview threads with informative content about how things evolved over time.

Having said that, I think to be perfect the LP would need some sort of veteran who's a decade or so older than you guys at least, because it's kind of hard to explain the fascination of some of this stuff when you didn't play it when it was new. I've played Doom with another goon after suggesting to try out some old co-op stuff and we basically had the opposite problem: We had a blast, but it would have been even greater to have some young whippersnapper playing with us to whom we could explain why some of the stuff was so significant back then. Id in particular is a company who was always on the vanguard of gaming technology, at least back in the olden days, with almost every Quake or Doom engine seeming like a paradigm shift.

Anyway, good work, guys. Here's to a long-lasting mammoth of a thread.

cbx posted:

If you guys are looking for older co-commentators, I'm in my 30s, and I used to build computers to keep up with the id games. Was even a Quake 2 player on MSN's The Zone multiplayer arena. I'll have some free time coming up this week.

Crembo posted:

Excellent LP so far, but one small gripe with the sound balance: when you talk, you overpower the music; but you never stop talking for more than two or three seconds. (which makes your "oh this is a nice song" comments a little frustrating)

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.

KennyMan666 posted:

Also, I actually have the Spear of Destiny big box. Bought it for super cheap at some point. When looking now the floppies aren't actually in the box so they're probs in a floppy case at my parent's place, but the box and manual are here... as well as a "warranty registration" card you apparently were meant to mail to FormGen. I can snap some pictures if wanted.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

With any luck, by the time this thread gets to Doom 4 then an expansion akin to Wolfenstein: The Old Blood or even Quake 5 will be out.

Thyrork posted:

E: Yeah, hit me up if you want a brit on your crew for Strife. If anything else, it gives me an excuse to replay it. Timezones might be a pain 'tho!

Spudd posted:

Seeing how far ahead you are you could always bump it up to 3 updates a week

No? Oh well.

Skippy Granola posted:

At this rate you'll be up to two updates a day for Rage

Fish Noise posted:

In the classic Wolfensteins, is there anything that beats the Mutant Death Dance as the literal worst thing?

Klaus88 posted:

Rage is a good man-shooter.

Its just that someone decided to bolt on a driving game to it.

Skippy Granola posted:

I'm gonna have LOTS to say about Rage when we get there.

(btw hit me up if you are doing Wasteland Legends and want a bro-operator)

Thyrork posted:

So, the final level of Spear terrified me as a kid. Not sure when I exactly played it, as I played it after Doom was out, but I remember the final boss with its sudden change of environment and the spooky ghosts really bothering me. Consequently, I never beat it!

Thyrork posted:

Oh yeah, Doom hosed me up around the same time that SoD did. I remember that childish dread being nearly overwhelming and reminding myself that stopping it all is just a ESC button away. I also remember being super pumped at fighting not one but two "bosses" at the same time at the end of the first episode. (soft spoilering that since we're not there yet )

That I remember this so vividly 24ish years later says something.

Aces High posted:

is Catacomb 3D using Commander Keen music? It sounds really familiar

Aces High posted:

how much did games like this cost again? I think I recall you would get your shareware episode and then it would cost $15 and mailing fee for the rest of the game? Did you have to do that for poo poo like Hovertank and Catacomb too? That just seems like a waste of money

Captain Rufus posted:

Wouldn't mind seeing Shadowcaster in there.

Crosspeice posted:

Holy poo poo, Catacombs 3D uses literally everything from Keen 4: the music, the sounds, the graphics, the colour scheme. That's really weird.

Also if you need someone to talk over Keen with, I've got 31 videos of me doing just that. But please don't do Keen GBC, I haven't erased it from my memory quite yet.

Fish Noise posted:

Coccyx.

These Wolf3D-Doom era games have been pretty fascinating to watch.