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Tony Homo
Oct 30, 2014

by zen death robot
Way back in the 90s I put together a 486/33 and was quite proud of myself being that I was a young lad back then. I was thinking of making a gaming rig for myself since my young son always is on my older Alienware computer and figure maybe me and him could play together some online games like Diablo 3 or Warcraft.

Have you recently built your own computer? Any absolutely essential things I should have it in? I was thing of Intel i5 to save some money and an evga GeForce gtx 980 as far as the two important things. I also was looking at doghousesystems.com since it seems they get great reviews but their prices are high. With what I came up with I can order the parts from newegg for roughly 1500 dollars. Any suggestions?

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Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
Yeah. It's super easy nowadays (like literally color coded) compared to the 90s and you save 1/3rd off the price at least.

I'd get a cheapo GPU for now because the next gen ones are about to come out. No point wasting $300-500 on a GPU right now.

\/\/\/ yeah

www
Aug 4, 2010

buy a 1070 gtx instead

www
Aug 4, 2010

and watercooling in cool color of ur choice op

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
drat I didn't realize the 1070 was out already gotta pick up some more NVDA

e: yeah get watercooling, it is easy as poo poo to set up compared to the nightmare that was a decade ago and it is barely more expensive than a bunch of loud dusty fans

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

Roylicious posted:

Yeah. It's super easy nowadays (like literally color coded) compared to the 90s and you save 1/3rd off the price at least.

I'd get a cheapo GPU for now because the next gen ones are about to come out. No point wasting $300-500 on a GPU right now.

\/\/\/ yeah

they are out its just getting sold out the second they come in stock anywhere atm but i got one last night


Tony Homo posted:

Way back in the 90s I put together a 486/33 and was quite proud of myself being that I was a young lad back then. I was thinking of making a gaming rig for myself since my young son always is on my older Alienware computer and figure maybe me and him could play together some online games like Diablo 3 or Warcraft.

Have you recently built your own computer? Any absolutely essential things I should have it in? I was thing of Intel i5 to save some money and an evga GeForce gtx 980 as far as the two important things. I also was looking at doghousesystems.com since it seems they get great reviews but their prices are high. With what I came up with I can order the parts from newegg for roughly 1500 dollars. Any suggestions?

do not buy pre made computer pleas, let us know your budget and we can assemble you one :) :D

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
I bought a Surface pro 4 and threw the old box out. PC will die when Steam finally releases a console

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot
go to SH/SC and the computer building thread OP they have some solid suggestions to get you underway

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3774409

and they can offer good critiques too; they do a good job of guiding you away from the marked up GAMER GEAR bullshit components and give you suggestions for parts which are functionally the same and cost less

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

www posted:

and watercooling in cool color of ur choice op

i cool my computer with mtn dew in plastic tubes that are very cold, this is necessary and not at all a waste of money or showing off a computer, ask me anything

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

Beef Turret posted:

I bought a Surface pro 4 and threw the old box out. PC will die when Steam finally releases a console

which ... are just computers and computers will always run the steamOS , dummy :D

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot
I just put the stock cooler on and don't overclock idgaf just has to work

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
You could actually compile all that old 386 poo poo on an i5, and the pentium poo poo.

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer
i built a Rosewill system using mostly Rosewill parts it runs like a charm. one of those charms that freezes and glitches and gets random errors when booting up or shutting down. you know what kind of charm i mean dont you nerd

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
Yeh. I got an i7 in mine from a few years ago and it's still pretty drat future proof. The upgrade cycle is still the same really, expect to have to buy a new gfx card before anything else.

You can get really sweet ram for like 50 bux these days. Status lights on the stick and everything!

Ssds are cheap now so do that for your sysyem drive. Maybe another one if you do pc gaming. Data storage volumes don't need to be ssds but it's nice to have a terabyte or so for the massive modern installs on a lightning fast drive.

Oh and don't forget to grab a mobo that supports the latest version of usb natively.

Tony Homo
Oct 30, 2014

by zen death robot
This is what I was thinking from the maximumpc magazine that just came out:

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

I just put the stock cooler on and don't overclock idgaf just has to work

this is my advice as well

modern fans are really quiet

like I'm sure watercooling, like everything else about assembling computers, is way way better than it used to be, but there is no loving reason for anyone building their first machine since the 90's to mess around with it

just build a straightforward mid-range gaming computer with sensible components and enjoy how easy the whole thing is and how long it lasts you

my main advice is to make sure you get a sufficiently large SSD for all the games you're going to want to have downloaded simultaneously (and probably a second disk-based drive for bulk storage), it's basically the biggest quality of life thing you can get for a computer if you're used to traditional hard drives and it'll improve your gaming and day-to-day computing experiences immeasurably

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer

Nathilus posted:

Yeh. I got an i7 in mine from a few years ago and it's still pretty drat future proof. The upgrade cycle is still the same really, expect to have to buy a new gfx card before anything else.

You can get really sweet ram for like 50 bux these days. Status lights on the stick and everything!

Ssds are cheap now so do that for your sysyem drive. Maybe another one if you do pc gaming. Data storage volumes don't need to be ssds but it's nice to have a terabyte or so for the massive modern installs on a lightning fast drive.

Oh and don't forget to grab a mobo that supports the latest version of usb natively.

im impressed! i thought you only knew about deep fried butter and funnel cake! good for you man

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Nathilus posted:

Yeh. I got an i7 in mine from a few years ago and it's still pretty drat future proof. The upgrade cycle is still the same really, expect to have to buy a new gfx card before anything else.

You can get really sweet ram for like 50 bux these days. Status lights on the stick and everything!

Ssds are cheap now so do that for your sysyem drive. Maybe another one if you do pc gaming. Data storage volumes don't need to be ssds but it's nice to have a terabyte or so for the massive modern installs on a lightning fast drive.

Oh and don't forget to grab a mobo that supports the latest version of usb natively.

But they clock the ram bus different from the processor on all of those, so there's heat expense and actual clock cycles used in the data throughput. Those things all have stupid rear end clunky fans and heat sinks and use lots of power for no reason. :shrug:

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
Dam. I7s still cost 200 bucks more than i5s wtf. I expected that to come down since I did thang.

As for those specs, get a graphics card that costs half the money, half grand gfx cards have never been worth it. It will be outmoded 6 months after a medium-budget card eats poo poo.

Also I don't know why that thing reccomends a 250 gb ssd that costs a hundo when a 1 tb ssd costs like 110 120 tops. Youre gonna need 2 of those.

JiveHonky posted:

im impressed! i thought you only knew about deep fried butter and funnel cake! good for you man

https://youtu.be/hQKmWjGSXeU

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot
Yeah I got my 250 gb SSD like years ago for about that much, what the gently caress

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
I usually just follow this guide exactly when I need a new computer and it's never really let me down: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-pc-builds,4390.html

I hate researching computer components and I know that lots of spergs on the internet are happy to do it for me, so I just figure out how much I'm spending and copy someone else's build

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

But they clock the ram bus different from the processor on all of those, so there's heat expense and actual clock cycles used in the data throughput. Those things all have stupid rear end clunky fans and heat sinks and use lots of power for no reason. :shrug:

I've seen but don't own sticks with just the lights and none of that other external garbage. Since I haven't actually hosed with it I don't know about the clockspeed on it but muh boy's a tech by trade and his clients seem to like it. I might personally even settle for less thermal efficiency in exchange for the ability to tell at a glance whether a stick of ram has blown. I mean who cares?

BlueBlazer
Apr 1, 2010
500gb ssds are down to ~120$

I was speechless how cheap shits got and I'm an IT admin for a living.

I just go down to the PC recycler and buy what some rich-sperg decided wasn't good enough to play MoH at 5000fps. My personal game rig is built out of a pile of parts from failed bitcoin mining rigs for like 200$.

*edit - just get a gaming laptop.

BlueBlazer fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jun 15, 2016

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Nathilus posted:

Dam. I7s still cost 200 bucks more than i5s wtf. I expected that to come down since I did thang.

As for those specs, get a graphics card that costs half the money, half grand gfx cards have never been worth it. It will be outmoded 6 months after a medium-budget card eats poo poo.

Also I don't know why that thing reccomends a 250 gb ssd that costs a hundo when a 1 tb ssd costs like 110 120 tops. Youre gonna need 2 of those.


https://youtu.be/hQKmWjGSXeU

Or just use your system processor for graphics and then everyone can write and compile games. :shrug:

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
I'm still laughing from pc gamers actually thinking steam was gonna push Linux into the future

Like six years ago. My throat is hoarse

Who Is Paul Blart
Oct 22, 2010
It is in that dell built it to order for my work, OP

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

I'm still laughing from pc gamers actually thinking steam was gonna push Linux into the future

Like six years ago. My throat is hoarse

I'm an idealist okay :mad:

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

Yeah I got my 250 gb SSD like years ago for about that much, what the gently caress

IDK but I want to point out that those were the bad old days. At least ssd-wise. We now live in the brightly shining and cheap halcyon ssd future.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Or just use your system processor for graphics and then everyone can write and compile games. :shrug:

I'm white and male and childless so nah, think I'll take a gfx card for 2 or 3 hundo thanks.

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer
i made my computer out of hemp and almond milk cartons. it has active liquid cooling for the cpu and gpu that uses only almond milk. it is the most advanced almond milk based gaming computer ever built.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

yes I built my pc op

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Nathilus posted:

I'm white and male and childless so nah, think I'll take a gfx card for 2 or 3 hundo thanks.

Well it would perform better if you just use the system bus. :colbert:

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH
my computer is an hp so i guess some chinese guy made a robot that made it idk :shrug:

Random Hajile
Aug 25, 2003

The SH/SC thread suggests to use PcPartpicker, but it bears repeating. It'll alert you if you're going to make a mistake (like choosing a CPU or RAM that's incompatible with your chosen motherboard), and it'll search several online stores for each of your chosen parts to let you know where to get them cheapest.

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
Haha oh man reading some of the pretty bad suggestions outside of the SH SC hug box makes me uncomfortable

root of all eval
Dec 28, 2002

Roylicious posted:

I'd get a cheapo GPU for now because the next gen ones are about to come out. No point wasting $300-500 on a GPU right now.

I hosed up and bought 2 GTX980s for $500 each a little more than a week before the 1070's price was announced. My last card was a Radeon 6850, so this was a big move for me. The pain is incredible.

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

Haha oh man reading some of the pretty bad suggestions outside of the SH SC hug box makes me uncomfortable

hey man all I know is that all the parts I got recommended by the megathread on my last build worked and worked phenomenally, while everything else I went off the reservation to get was either flaky or spooky, and it was ultimately a PSU which I didn't check against the megathread about before trying which did the whole thing in

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

JiveHonky posted:

i built a Rosewill system using mostly Rosewill parts it runs like a charm. one of those charms that freezes and glitches and gets random errors when booting up or shutting down. you know what kind of charm i mean dont you nerd

Ur supposed to use that sort of charm against ur enemies JiveHonky, not on urself!

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


yeah i got a pentium 3 700 and a geforce 2 :coal:

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Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

BossRighteous posted:

I hosed up and bought 2 GTX980s for $500 each a little more than a week before the 1070's price was announced. My last card was a Radeon 6850, so this was a big move for me. The pain is incredible.

I'm sorry but buying SLI rigs has always been loving stupid regardless of how the timing screwed you over. They are only useful for specialist purposes. As a semi-normal user you were never going to eke an extra 500 bux of performance out of that second card.

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